Must watch!!! Survivor’s muscle hunk - JP Calderon came out, it’s so touching…

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    Jul 01, 2007 4:06 PM GMT
    Must watch!!! Survivor’s muscle hunk - JP Calderon came out, it’s so touching…

    Never see Janice Dickenson that nice… JP is so cute when coming out!
    http://www.youaction.com/view_video.php?viewkey=09587cf485ea990207f3&page=1&viewtype=&category=mr

    the come out job…
    http://www.youaction.com/view_video.php?viewkey=3b03ae6d3f8540cd6362&page=1&viewtype=&category=mr

    interview after come out
    http://www.youaction.com/view_video.php?viewkey=808006ce95eddb7366e3&page=1&viewtype=&category=mr
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    Jul 01, 2007 7:00 PM GMT
    Yup, thats how i felt. Still in the daze phase.

    Time heals all wounds i suppose
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    Jul 01, 2007 7:11 PM GMT
    Interesting that the first words out of his mouth after deciding to "come out" were basically the same that several RealJock guys who had just come out expressed....the same "fear" that to be gay means people impose a stereotype of effemininity on a guy.

    Those of us that went through that when we came out that that is really internalized homophobia...a fear that to be gay means not to be a "man".

    You can see that very same thing embedded in many of the posts on this site from guys who complain about the "gay stereotype", or that they are not "gay" etc.

    Note, I separate that irrational fear and hatred from what characteristics attract a guy sexually. What I am concerned about is that that hatred and fear causes people to be mean-spirited, to repress other people, to say and do hateful things to distance themselves from that stereotype (and, IMHO, their own sexuality).

    John
  • treader

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    Jul 01, 2007 8:06 PM GMT

    Never heard of him before but I don't watch much TV. I agree with fastprof about his gay stereotypes. I can understand the worry about being type cast but being a 'man'? (How old is this guy?)

    I do find it humorous that you have this sexy photo shot of him that most of us would ogle over and there's someone holding his legs up off screen so that he doesn't drown. That's real life for you.

    Anyway, glad that everything worked out for him.
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    Jul 01, 2007 8:39 PM GMT
    Looks like a scripted Hollywood thing to me. Have you guys ever been on TV or in a Movie? Studio time costs megabucks. There are 6 or so guys on the other side of the camera. Every second is planned. There is nothing casual and spontaneous about it and no surprises....you do take, after take, after take ,after take. and then you come back the next day and there is a guy there that makes sure you look exactly the same as you did at take one...because they need to retake that " first surprise reaction" because it wasn't quite right.
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    Jul 01, 2007 8:45 PM GMT
    You know, I looked at that video again, and I did get the creepy sensation that the thing was a put up job....may not be, but Burninman might be right.
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    Jul 01, 2007 9:42 PM GMT
    probably, altho the string of the issue is still there.
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    Jul 01, 2007 11:31 PM GMT
    It's hard to say how peculiar I found that. I don't watch TV at all, so maybe that's part of the reason, but it felt completely scripted to me too.

    The annoying part is that it exploits negative stereotyping with the usual implied bashing of guys who don't fit...the heteronormative stereotype. He's not like that, you see. He wants to be sure you understand that.

    Like hell. Instinct contacts him to be a coverboy and she is bothering to ask him if he's gay. Why would they do that if he wasn't already setting off everyone's gaydar?

    Why's it such a big deal to ask if he's gay?

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    Jul 02, 2007 1:21 AM GMT
    Having been in the bizz spoils all the fantasy for me. He is also wearing full foundation make-up, eyeliner etc. That takes like an hour to apply. For a "real" tv interview they genrally just fix your hair, hit you with some color blush and powder the shiny spots. He is worried about not being a normal guy anymore wearing full foundation makeup? ...Please! He is trying to milk the gay thing for all its worth. Confessions get the attention of the media these days more than real news does. I really could not concentrate on the interview looking at the interviewer's collagen lips ready to fall off her face.
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    Jul 02, 2007 1:29 AM GMT
    Yeah, her lips made me feel like I was back in LA.
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    Jul 02, 2007 2:36 AM GMT
    I've looked at it again...

    He looks botoxed, but, again, that may be make up.

    Hey, guys, I agree.

    It's not even a clever setup.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 02, 2007 11:51 PM GMT
    You know what...
    I feel for the guy... Blah blah blah

    But is he for real?
    He's doing modeling for how long?
    ...and that question hasn't come up yet?
    That's a career path where you're gay until proven otherwise
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    Jul 05, 2007 6:58 AM GMT
    Spectacle, spectacle, spectacle.

    I don't mean to imply that it's all deliberate but you guys are all being fed bread and circuses. The very existence of this thread proves my point.

    A couple of days ago Bush pardoned Libby, a man who is a traitor to your country. You guys should be rioting in the streets frankly. When I read it I thought "Wow.... the rule of law is dead in America. That's it.... America as we haven known is is dead.... faded into the mist like Avalon"

    And yet here we all are debating the authenticity of a Youtube video. YOu guys are much smarter then most of the people I know. If this spectacle has distrated you, I think everything's lost. I feel like a Roman watching the Visigoths coming over the hill...
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    Jul 05, 2007 12:38 PM GMT
    Hello! The thread began before the pardon, but what does one have to do with the other?

    I bought some great Under Armour the day of the pardon. Whenever George Bush takes a swipe at the Constitution, I head to the mall.
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    Jul 05, 2007 1:54 PM GMT
    Scully, Bush didn't pardon Libby he just commuted the prison term -- Libby still has the $ 250,000 fine and is on probation for two yrs. Rightly or wrongly the president has the power to do that, and Libby's case is hardly the most questionable use/abuse of this presidential perogative.
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    Jul 05, 2007 4:05 PM GMT
    Sculboy- I agree the rule of law is dead but by the default of the US Congress not Bush. Article 1 of the Constitution says that the Congress will make the laws..... not the president. He has been running things totallty by the default of the Congress to do anything except investigate its members and his cabinet and investigation is what the Justice dept. is supposed to be doing. Commuting a sentence is one of the few powers a president has according to the constitution.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jul 05, 2007 4:09 PM GMT
    anything for ratings- reason #1 I don't watch series tv. Media whores!!