How safe is it to take HGH or Testosterone?

  • Manhood69

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    Jun 14, 2011 11:53 AM GMT
    As we know, our level of certain hormones decreases as we age making it more difficult to maintain muscle, metabolism and fat loss. I'd be curious to hear about the pros and cons of taking these supplements.
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    Before you go playing around with your hormones, you need to have a Dr. test your free T levels. Then and ONLY then, take supps based on an MD's supervision. High T can open up a host of problems, just like low T. Excessive testosterone can cause sexual dysfunction, hair loss and put us in extreme risk of prostate cancer. Please do not go taking anything to manipulate your hormones based on a hunch....get facts and professional advice first.
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    Jun 14, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    Gym_bull said
    depends, it is to a point. and anything you'll inject will fuck you over, by making your body stop production of natural hormones. However, to a certain point it is, its just that once you start, you cant stop.

    This can be avoided by supplementing in stages, depending on routine a monthly boost during a heavy intensity can give you spikes in your developments but as you said, a continuous and sustained amount can send a feedback via over concentration and stop production. Maintain this for too long and production can stop entirely. Not too dissimilar to the mechanism of action for type II diabetes mellitus.
  • wild_sky360

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    Jun 14, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    A short course of supervised growth hormone doesn't seem to affect natural production for someone with normal, age related decline. It's a youth hormone. After age 25 or so, you are essentially drawing down your reserve for the rest of your life. A healthy lifestyle and some specific measures can add a little back to the pool, so that it lasts longer.

    Unlike testosterone, it can be optimized once, and then maintained to some degree, with specific, intense lifting, peak 8 cardio, eliminating all sugars post workout, and getting good sleep. These measures, while beneficial to production; on their own will never get you to optimum if there is a big gap to fill. Pure drinking water can help reduce calcification of the pineal and pituitary.

    Cons are cost and potential side effects...which are often related to cost.
    Trying to get maximum effects from a very expensive short course may invite overuse. This can lead to carpal tunnel and some other nasties, that may or may not resolve over time. JUST DON"T DO IT. The older you are, the slower you need to go.

    It's hard to throw away a $1k pen that is half full, when the expiration clock starts ticking the minute you open it. It's also hard to find a doctor that will even discuss this subject with you...making it kind of a moot point.

    I'll probably invite a flame with this, but...
    If you and a bud were on a similarly supervised course, you could easily share one and toss it away empty.
  • wild_sky360

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    Jun 16, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    I may be wrong on this, but at the time, it was off label for anti aging, HRT. The only sanctioned use was for pituitary disorders in children and adolescents. The recommended dosing schedule may be more appropriate for that use.

    My clinic only offered the pens, which I purchased on site. I feel like I could use a boost, but I'm uninsured now and can't even afford the testing. It's available online, but because of the high value there is a lot of counterfeiting. Some of which, even makes it's way to pharmacies.
  • Manhood69

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    Jun 24, 2011 11:04 PM GMT
    Thank you guys for the feedback. I checked into one online source. It's pretty expensive. They do provide testing to check your levels etc. But, at this point, it's a little out of reach to even consider at this point.