Flying Long Distance: buy first class tickets, wait for upgrades, or fly economy?

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    Jun 14, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    I am sure a fair number of you guys are avid travelers. This means you actually fly quite often as well, especially if you are into more foreign lands / exotic locations. So when you guys fly long distance, let's say, 10+ hours total, what do you do? Do you spend money just buying first class ticket, you wait for upgrade, or you just suffer and fly economy?

    My BF would always buy the economy class and wait for the upgrade. He believes that it's cheaper (which he's probably right). We always end up fighting about this (and I'll tell you why): because he would drive me CRAZY 24 hours before the flight. It's like, I have to pack already, I have to clean the house (to make sure that I come back to a clean house), and now I have to worry about upgrades? Coming back too...it's the last day of our vacation, I am already dreading going back to work and the hell that's waiting for me back at home, and he's like, "make sure you call for the upgrades, make sure you call for the upgrades, are you checking online for the upgrades?!?!" He would get really obsessed about it, and rightfully so. I'm only 5'10" so economy class seats are not that bad for me. He's 6' 3" with long legs so economy seats are killer for his back and legs. So I can totally understand that for a long flight he would want to do an upgrade. But what I don't understand is that, if it bothers him that much to fly economy, why not just buy the first class ticket in the get-go? He can afford it. I will never understand his mentality of spending money.

    There is ONE exception though. That was our trip to China. That's because it was a 19 hour flight total, with one of the flight 15 hours from New York to Tokyo. Can you imagine if he's stuck in economy for 15 hours? That was the best vacation.....icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 14, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
    I'd just pay for first class and relax.
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    Jun 14, 2011 8:58 PM GMT
    Consider Business Class. If you're not familiar check out www.seatguru.com.
  • Life_Is_Good_...

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    Jun 14, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    purchase what you can afford.
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    Jun 14, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    any flight scheduled for over 4 hours should be flown in nothing less than business.

    beg, borrow, bribe or steal if you have to, but don't do economy.

    i purchase a business class ticket. more and more carriers anyhow are eliminating first coz the business class product is almost as good.

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    Jun 14, 2011 11:20 PM GMT
    If you have enough FF miles, buy a full price economy ticket and upgrade at check-in if possible. Also, check out airlines that offer Premium Economy. Qantas, Air New Zealand, Air France, EVA, China Southern, SAS, V Australia, and Virgin Atlantic offer excellent products.
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    Jun 14, 2011 11:23 PM GMT
    Life_Is_Good_San_Diego saidpurchase what you can afford.


    What you can afford is where i will start too. However, depending on the airlines, their might be 2nd class (business) and premium economy which is better than the regular economy. So your 6'3 bf will have a more comfy ride. icon_smile.gif
  • Bunjamon

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    Jun 14, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    I have flown RT to China 3 times and only ever gotten upgraded to Business once on one leg of the trip because my uncle gave me some of his points. So that's 32,000 miles flowing in economy, and I'm 6'7". If your boyfriend can afford business class, he should buck up and buy it. If he can afford first class (the first class seats on the last flight I took to China were pushing $7,000 RT) then he really has absolutely no right to complain about economy. Just saying.
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    Jun 14, 2011 11:39 PM GMT
    I was told this by someone who worked as a flight attendant. Buy an economy seat. What you do is you either bring something like a lovely pie or purchase something nice like a box of chocolates at the duty free. Be as generous as you want, I usually go all out and spend upwards of 9 dollars. Give it to either the ground crew or a flight attendant on your flight. Say your sister or something works as a flight attendant and you know how tough a job it can be and how thankless it is. Be really genuine and nice about it. Guaranteed if there's an open seat in first class, your ass will be warming it in no time. If not, at least you've done something nice for someone, and at least they'll be nice to you for the rest of the flight, and might even give you the WHOLE can of coke as opposed to just filling a 100ml glass with three glacier-sized ice cubes in.
  • ohioguy12

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    Jun 14, 2011 11:56 PM GMT
    God forbid you have to fly economy...
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    Jun 15, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
    I have no shame in traveling economy. Hell, that's all I can ever afford. Plus I'm a small guy, so space isn't an issue. I just bring a good book for short flights and take a soporific for long flights. All is dandy in my world.
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    Jun 15, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    Ever_Brave saidI was told this by someone who worked as a flight attendant. Buy an economy seat. What you do is you either bring something like a lovely pie or purchase something nice like a box of chocolates at the duty free. Be as generous as you want, I usually go all out and spend upwards of 9 dollars. Give it to either the ground crew or a flight attendant on your flight. Say your sister or something works as a flight attendant and you know how tough a job it can be and how thankless it is. Be really genuine and nice about it. Guaranteed if there's an open seat in first class, your ass will be warming it in no time. If not, at least you've done something nice for someone, and at least they'll be nice to you for the rest of the flight, and might even give you the WHOLE can of coke as opposed to just filling a 100ml glass with three glacier-sized ice cubes in.


    this sound great you do it to me any time
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    Jun 15, 2011 12:13 AM GMT
    Economy all the way (unless I'm traveling with the 'rents and they are ponying up), and I am 6'2". With the price differential, I can take the money I save and have more fun at my destination than 4 or 8 or 15 hours of more comfort on the plane ride. Anyway, you find just as many assholes in first class/business as economy. I generally find that my fellow plane-mates make traveling much more unbearable than any cramped seat (such as the screaming match on my last TATL flight over bin space, business class nonetheless). I'm extremely loyal to my airline (Alaska) and their mileage partners, so I don't really know how others compare, but economy on any I fly are not THAT bad.
  • mizu5

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    Jun 15, 2011 2:19 AM GMT
    5'8 and 145 pounds. i dont mdin economy lol
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    Jun 15, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    Economy, I'm an Elite Onepass member with Continental and they give upgrades whenever possible... I only fly with them domestically. Economy isn't that bad either, I go to www.seatguru.com and they show the best seats on the flight and I pick seats that way. I was on a 747 on Asiana last summer to Korea and I have never been so comfortable, I slept like a baby!! I was so glad I chose the right seat. First class is not an option right now for a college student haha
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:08 AM GMT
    cityaznguy saidWe always end up fighting about this (and I'll tell you why): because he would drive me CRAZY 24 hours before the flight. It's like, I have to pack already, I have to clean the house (to make sure that I come back to a clean house), and now I have to worry about upgrades? Coming back too...it's the last day of our vacation, I am already dreading going back to work and the hell that's waiting for me back at home, and he's like, "make sure you call for the upgrades, make sure you call for the upgrades, are you checking online for the upgrades?!?!" He would get really obsessed about it, and rightfully so.


    get first class tickets. it's a bit troubling why he nags at you when he's the one with the would-be-ergonomics problem. and why rightfully so?
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:12 AM GMT
    I have flown several times for work from SFO to UK which is about 13 hours and then also flying the same day to Manchester, UK for about another 2 hours, so its Business Class. Got bumped several times to First Class just because it was completely empty on some runs. Also, full use of the Executive lounge at Heathrow, nothing beats getting out of a long flight to a long shower fully refreshed.

    From a personal note whenever flying with a flight that is more than 5 hours long I try to get upgraded to Business class and depends on the points earned.
    So, if your BF can afforded he should just purchase it, its more of a comfort level and worth your sanity. Nothing is worse than a nagging BF.
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
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    cityaznguy saidWe always end up fighting about this (and I'll tell you why): because he would drive me CRAZY 24 hours before the flight. It's like, I have to pack already, I have to clean the house (to make sure that I come back to a clean house), and now I have to worry about upgrades? Coming back too...it's the last day of our vacation, I am already dreading going back to work and the hell that's waiting for me back at home, and he's like, "make sure you call for the upgrades, make sure you call for the upgrades, are you checking online for the upgrades?!?!" He would get really obsessed about it, and rightfully so.


    get first class tickets. it's a bit troubling why he nags at you when he's the one with the would-be-ergonomics problem. and why rightfully so?


    lol he's the one paying for the upgrade that's why. I am perfectly fine sitting in economy.
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    cityaznguy said
    blue_ahli said
    cityaznguy saidWe always end up fighting about this (and I'll tell you why): because he would drive me CRAZY 24 hours before the flight. It's like, I have to pack already, I have to clean the house (to make sure that I come back to a clean house), and now I have to worry about upgrades? Coming back too...it's the last day of our vacation, I am already dreading going back to work and the hell that's waiting for me back at home, and he's like, "make sure you call for the upgrades, make sure you call for the upgrades, are you checking online for the upgrades?!?!" He would get really obsessed about it, and rightfully so.


    get first class tickets. it's a bit troubling why he nags at you when he's the one with the would-be-ergonomics problem. and why rightfully so?


    lol he's the one paying for the upgrade that's why. I am perfectly fine sitting in economy.


    oh then hell yeah, first class!! hahahaha
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    uombroca saidNothing is worse than a nagging BF.


    Word!
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    BlackCat90 said
    cityaznguy said
    blue_ahli said
    cityaznguy saidWe always end up fighting about this (and I'll tell you why): because he would drive me CRAZY 24 hours before the flight. It's like, I have to pack already, I have to clean the house (to make sure that I come back to a clean house), and now I have to worry about upgrades? Coming back too...it's the last day of our vacation, I am already dreading going back to work and the hell that's waiting for me back at home, and he's like, "make sure you call for the upgrades, make sure you call for the upgrades, are you checking online for the upgrades?!?!" He would get really obsessed about it, and rightfully so.


    get first class tickets. it's a bit troubling why he nags at you when he's the one with the would-be-ergonomics problem. and why rightfully so?


    lol he's the one paying for the upgrade that's why. I am perfectly fine sitting in economy.


    oh then hell yeah, first class!! hahahaha


    LOL I like you already icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    Try booking Business ... or if you can, Air France has a great Economy Plus product.

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    A ticket from DC to Beirut where I fly once a year would cost me about 1000-2000 in plain Economy.

    This would be another 1000 + or - (Depending on the season).

    So you're looking at 2000-3000 in total for Premium Voyageur.

    For another 2,000, you can get a business class seat that reclines almost all the way....

    In reality, for a tall person, Premium Voyageur is all you would need. Economy is.... its atrocious, I dont care how short you are, no one should be packed in like that. It should be illegal!!! lol. And I would know... I've done Miami to Buenos Aires and back in coach (9+ hours on that one leg).... awful.

    I always try to upgrade on long flights.... but then, yeah... I am tall.... 6'3"
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:32 AM GMT
    If your bf is so concerned about it, he should be the one doing it.

    As for economy, its never bothered me.
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:37 AM GMT
    I would leave the whiny-ass boyfriend at home! I don't put up with whiners, so I'd rather travel alone at my own pace!
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    Jun 15, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI don't mind flying economy. I get up a lot and walk to the bathroom to stretch my legs. icon_cool.gif


    Are you sure economy seats can accommodate your broad shoulders?