Chris Christy on Piers Morgan -- "Is Homosexuality A Sin"

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 15, 2011 7:00 AM GMT
    I was quite impressed with Chris Christy on Piers Morgan tonight. Piers asked Christy the same question that he asked Mitt Romney a few nights earlier, and Chris Christy said "I know that my church considers it a sin, but I myself have always believed that someone is born with their sexual orientation, and so I would never consider someone who is Homosexual to be a sinner". He also went on to say that he felt that marriage between a man & woman had a special place in our society, and that likely would never change in his mind, but that he would be in favor of Civil Unions for gays that had all the same benefits.
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    Jun 15, 2011 11:40 AM GMT
    *applauds*
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    Jun 15, 2011 12:48 PM GMT
    " "I know that my church considers it a sin, but I myself have always believed that someone is born with their sexual orientation, and so I would never consider someone who is Homosexual to be a sinner". He also went on to say that he felt that marriage between a man & woman had a special place in our society, and that likely would never change in his mind, but that he would be in favor of Civil Unions for gays that had all the same benefits."

    This is straightforward. Can Mitt Romney bring himself to make such a direct statement? Or does he need a lot more wiggle room?


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    Jun 15, 2011 1:05 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI was quite impressed with Chris Christy on Piers Morgan tonight. Piers asked Christy the same question that he asked Mitt Romney a few nights earlier, and Chris Christy said "I know that my church considers it a sin, but I myself have always believed that someone is born with their sexual orientation, and so I would never consider someone who is Homosexual to be a sinner". He also went on to say that he felt that marriage between a man & woman had a special place in our society, and that likely would never change in his mind, but that he would be in favor of Civil Unions for gays that had all the same benefits.


    Wow. Imagine that. Christie got hit with a "GOTCHA QUESTION" and hit it out of the park. Too bad Romney can't answer the same question truthfully and honestly with full intent on being held accountable for his answer.
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    Jun 15, 2011 1:10 PM GMT
    Shows how craven Romney is. It´s not a hard question.
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    Jun 15, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    Show's who's trying to make a Presidential run, and who's trying to be the Governor of New Jersey.


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    Jun 15, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    I suspect we will get a better handle on Romney's position on all things GAY as the campaign unfolds. I think he was fine to have answered the question the way he did at this point. Christy isn't running for President, which gives him a great deal more freedom to be specific. Romney will address this I am sure at the appropriate time. Piers Morgan, before a debate, was not that time.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI suspect we will get a better handle on Romney's position on all things GAY as the campaign unfolds. I think he was fine to have answered the question the way he did at this point.


    He didn't answer the question. He dodged it.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    I like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.

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    Jun 15, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
    [quote]He also went on to say that he felt that marriage between a man & woman had a special place in our society, and that likely would never change in his mind, but that he would be in favor of Civil Unions for gays that had all the same benefits.[/quote]


    Aren't the anti-gay marriage folks always claiming gays are asking for "special rights"? That sounds a lot like heterosexuals should have "special rights". Heterosexual relationships are more "special" than homosexual relationships. It's all semantics and smoke and mirrors. Either homosexuals and heterosexuals have equal rights or they don't. Period.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidI suspect we will get a better handle on Romney's position on all things GAY as the campaign unfolds. I think he was fine to have answered the question the way he did at this point.


    He didn't answer the question. He dodged it.
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    No, he didn't give the answer you or Piers wanted. There's a difference.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI was quite impressed with Chris Christy on Piers Morgan tonight. Piers asked Christy the same question that he asked Mitt Romney a few nights earlier, and Chris Christy said "I know that my church considers it a sin, but I myself have always believed that someone is born with their sexual orientation, and so I would never consider someone who is Homosexual to be a sinner". He also went on to say that he felt that marriage between a man & woman had a special place in our society, and that likely would never change in his mind, but that he would be in favor of Civil Unions for gays that had all the same benefits.


    Wow. Imagine that. Christie got hit with a "GOTCHA QUESTION" and hit it out of the park. Too bad Romney can't answer the same question truthfully and honestly with full intent on being held accountable for his answer.



    Yeah, this is problem most people have. We just need to market a different word and we can get it done.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    jprichva saidI could never vote for a man who can't waddle the 100 yards or so from his helicopter to his son's baseball game but instead had to have a limo drive him that distance. Oink. oink.


    Oh, let's be honest, JP.

    You wouldn't vote for the guy even if he looked like some muscled Adonis... you won't vote for him because he has an (R) after his name, right?
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:31 PM GMT
    Crafted in a way to appease the bigots

    He STARTED off the statement with ........ I know my Church believes that it's a sin
    So why are you in a Church that holds beliefs that you don't Mr Christie??

    And that he holds a marriage between a man and a woman as special
    Yet he's in favor of civil unions
    Separate but equal Jim Christie?

    GayRepubs..... You ain't got a friend in Chris Christie
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    GQjock saidCrafted in a way to appease the bigots

    He STARTED off the statement with ........ I know my Church believes that it's a sin
    So why are you in a Church that holds beliefs that you don't Mr Christie??

    And that he holds a marriage between a man and a woman as special
    Yet he's in favor of civil unions
    Separate but equal Jim Christie?

    GayRepubs..... You ain't got a friend in Chris Christie


    His position is identical to Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's.

    That double standard of yours is so far up your ass it's practically coming out of your mouth.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.



    HE is such a fiscal conservative that he wants to cut pretty much all programs and force teachers into poverty.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
    There goes his chances of ever getting the Republican nomination. While it might not be a big enough issue make him an 'absolutely not' for Republicans in general, even those that don't necessarily support gay rights, it is going to make it very difficult for him among the Republicans mostly like to go to the primaries and caucuses.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidI like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.



    HE is such a fiscal conservative that he wants to cut pretty much all programs and force teachers into poverty.


    Nonsense, what he did couldn't have been more extreme than what our Governor is doing. Our governor may have gone about it the wrong way but the job is getting done.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    Iceblink saidThere goes his chances of ever getting the Republican nomination. While it might not be a big enough issue make him an 'absolutely not' for Republicans in general, even those that don't necessarily support gay rights, it is going to make it very difficult for him among the Republicans mostly like to go to the primaries and caucuses.


    Not necessarily. If you were to talk to all conservatives my age and younger, I guarantee a vast majority would be in favor of civil unions and a good percentage in favor of gay marriage. Many of the libertarian minded youth of today are tomorrow's new conservatives.
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidCrafted in a way to appease the bigots

    He STARTED off the statement with ........ I know my Church believes that it's a sin
    So why are you in a Church that holds beliefs that you don't Mr Christie??

    And that he holds a marriage between a man and a woman as special
    Yet he's in favor of civil unions
    Separate but equal Jim Christie?

    GayRepubs..... You ain't got a friend in Chris Christie


    His position is identical to Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's.

    That double standard of yours is so far up your ass it's practically coming out of your mouth.


    Mock my dear man
    It's all in the wrist .... icon_wink.gif

    If you think that Chris. Christie is gonna sign ANYTHING that resembles giving gay rights to anybody
    I'd say your bat sh*t crazy .... And you're not bat sh*t crazy are you?

    Direct quote If a bill legalizing same sec marriage came to my desk as Gov I would veto it

    Pigs don't fly Mock
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    Jun 15, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidCrafted in a way to appease the bigots

    He STARTED off the statement with ........ I know my Church believes that it's a sin
    So why are you in a Church that holds beliefs that you don't Mr Christie??

    And that he holds a marriage between a man and a woman as special
    Yet he's in favor of civil unions
    Separate but equal Jim Christie?

    GayRepubs..... You ain't got a friend in Chris Christie


    His position is identical to Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's.

    That double standard of yours is so far up your ass it's practically coming out of your mouth.


    Mock my dear man
    It's all in the wrist .... icon_wink.gif

    If you think that Chris. Christie is gonna sign ANYTHING that resembles giving gay rights to anybody
    I'd say your bat sh*t crazy .... And you're not bat sh*t crazy are you?

    Direct quote If a bill legalizing same sec marriage came to my desk as Gov I would veto it

    Pigs don't fly Mock


    Obama would veto a same-sex bill as well.

    The point is you aren't being fair in your criticism. You should be glad that he is at least being honest and saying that he believes people are born gay and that he thinks they should have the same benefits. Stop looking at everything as half empty and starting seeing things half full.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie saidI like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.



    HE is such a fiscal conservative that he wants to cut pretty much all programs and force teachers into poverty.


    Nonsense, what he did couldn't have been more extreme than what our Governor is doing. Our governor may have gone about it the wrong way but the job is getting done.


    New Jersey is a very interesting place. You can visit one town that has a totally depressed economy, drive 2 miles over too the next town and its filled with houses that start at half a million. The wealth in new jersey is very concentrated with not a lot of opportunity for people to move up.
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    mocktwinkie saidI like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.



    HE is such a fiscal conservative that he wants to cut pretty much all programs and force teachers into poverty.


    Nonsense, what he did couldn't have been more extreme than what our Governor is doing. Our governor may have gone about it the wrong way but the job is getting done.


    Oh, just like Stalin and full industrialization in 15 years.

    Whatever it takes right.
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    Iceblink saidThere goes his chances of ever getting the Republican nomination. While it might not be a big enough issue make him an 'absolutely not' for Republicans in general, even those that don't necessarily support gay rights, it is going to make it very difficult for him among the Republicans mostly like to go to the primaries and caucuses.


    Not necessarily. If you were to talk to all conservatives my age and younger, I guarantee a vast majority would be in favor of civil unions and a good percentage in favor of gay marriage. Many of the libertarian minded youth of today are tomorrow's new conservatives.


    Your age and younger? I said 'Republicans most likely to go to primaries and caucuses'. Democrat, Republican, or Independent- you are part of the age range least likely to participate in the election process. I will even go so far as to say that with what was lauded as very impressive numbers for your generation in the 2008 election, if they had voted in numbers close to other age ranges, Prop 8, that was a nearly 50/50 vote, would not have passed and we would not be dealing with that controversy at this time.
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    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie saidI like Christie. We need fiscal conservatives like him who don't make it a point to campaign against gay rights.

    He MAY still believe that homosexual sex is a sin, but he answered the question very cleverly because he focused on the orientation itself.



    HE is such a fiscal conservative that he wants to cut pretty much all programs and force teachers into poverty.


    Nonsense, what he did couldn't have been more extreme than what our Governor is doing. Our governor may have gone about it the wrong way but the job is getting done.


    Oh, just like Stalin and full industrialization in 15 years.

    Whatever it takes right.


    Forgive me for finding this crushingly ironic because if there are any stalinesque political policies looking for support here, we can safely assume you are game for being the first in line.

    The governor is merely controlling the budget and using his limited power with things that fall under is jurisdiction. He has now made Wisconsin state worker rights the same as the federal government worker rights. Anyone is free to work wherever they want.