Former New York Giant David Tyree comes out against gay marriage.

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/06/tyree.html#comments

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM GMT
    He's free to be against anything he wants to be against.
    I'm free to say he's a fucking dumbass.
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  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:50 PM GMT
    The man is just plain ignorant. He just keeps letting the ancient fairy tales of religious belief shape his social viewpoints. He is best ignored.
  • JP85257

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
    SO?
  • RSportsguy

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
    "Anarchy" ? Really? We have to fear two people legitimatizing their relationship! icon_rolleyes.gif
  • JP85257

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    Jun 15, 2011 10:56 PM GMT
    Im wondering how him having a differing opinion on something makes him a bigot.
  • Mepark

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    Jun 15, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    That's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.
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    Jun 15, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    Yeah anarchy has been a real big problem in Canada ever since we legalized gay marriage! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 16, 2011 12:30 AM GMT
    Massachusetts has had mariiage equality for the longest of any US state. Anarchy and chaos have not broken out. In fact, I would dare say Massachusetts has more well adjusted families than most other places.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 16, 2011 12:54 AM GMT
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.


    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's whose opinion is suppose to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!
  • silverfox

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    Jun 16, 2011 1:06 AM GMT
    What if there is a gay man who believes in equal partnership rights and unions but not gay marriage? Would he be completely ostracized in this community?
  • madhatter131

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    Jun 16, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
    I am okay with him being against gay marriage. However, I do have a problem with him being historically ignorant and inaccurate. Marriage, the love based marriage we have in the US, is a pretty new world-wide idea. (Maybe only 200-300 years? give or take.) There are parts of India (and I assume other parts of the world) that still have marriages for economic reasons.

    ....those NON-Love based marriages are in fact the type of marriage the Bible speaks about.


    Nevertheless, if you are against gay marriage for religious reasons, that is okay. Just don't speak out like an idiot. Sometimes keeping it simple is best.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Jun 16, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    This is what is wrong with the world. It started with the Gallagher brothers from whichever British band they were in, making random comments and the media picking up on them like they're ideas mattered. They're just people who are famous for a talent. It doesn't mean they don't have their head up their own ass on social or political matters, or even know where to go when it's time to vote!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 16, 2011 1:16 AM GMT
    silverfox1 saidWhat if there is a gay man who believes in equal partnership rights and unions but not gay marriage? Would he be completely ostracized in this community?



    He shouldn't be. He may have to endure some tomatoes from SOME members of RJ, but I think the larger mainstream gay community would be fine with equal partnership rights and unions.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.

    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's [sic] whose opinion is suppose [sic] to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!

    Thank you for reaffirming for us that you are against gay marriage yourself. And that you support those who are also against it. Just so we all know who we are dealing with here. Makes things neater, don't you think?
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.

    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's [sic] whose opinion is suppose [sic] to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!

    Thank you for reaffirming for us that you are against gay marriage yourself. And that you support those who are also against it. Just so we all know who we are dealing with here. Makes things neater, don't you think?

    Im not against gay marriage, but I am not for it either. Deal with that. Not one day since Ive "come out" have I ever felt oppressed or unequal.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.


    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's whose opinion is suppose to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!

    Hunny....Apparently Its an Arizona thing to think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Thank you for reaffirming for us that you are against gay marriage yourself. And that you support those who are also against it. Just so we all know who we are dealing with here. Makes things neater, don't you think?



    Ohhhh, Arty-Farty. Soooo utterly predictable. The only thing reaffirmed here is your pension for reading into, if not totally fabricating, something that was never actually said at all. This is YOU being, well, YOU -- which is LOONEY TUNES! I did not even in the slightest so much as even hint that I am AGAINST gay marriage. I don't even agree with people who ARE against it. That is not to say, however, that I am so full of my own gayness (unlike YOU) that I can't at least understand why others who are not gay may, for whatever reason, have a problem with changing the definition of "marriage" to suit gay people. I may not agree with them, but I can't deny them their own right to have an opinion about it. I don't so much support those against gay marriage as I do support their right to have their own opinion about gay marriage.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.


    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's whose opinion is suppose to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!

    Hunny....Apparently Its an Arizona thing to think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


    Sounds like it from what I see in these forums. Perhaps I need to relocate to be with more likeminded people. ;)

    I don't see the big deal here. We live in a country where everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    cbdtw79 saidWe live in a country where everyone is entitled to their own opinion.



    Apparently they didn't get THAT memo way down there in Wilton Manors, FL icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    This guy's a nobody. Who cares what he says, thinks or does. He could die tomorrow and I'd not give a shit.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    cold said
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidThat's his opinion. Not everyone on this planet has to support gay marriage. And they don't need to be called names for it.

    +1

    I just don't see why we are the only one's [sic] whose opinion is suppose [sic] to matter? What about the other 90% of the world who isn't gay? Are they not entitled to have an opinion? Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them a hateful person or a bigot -- it means they don't agree with you -- Period -- Get Over it!

    Thank you for reaffirming for us that you are against gay marriage yourself. And that you support those who are also against it. Just so we all know who we are dealing with here. Makes things neater, don't you think?


    I don't think he's necessarily against gay marriage.

    The problem here is that - yes, you are entitled to an opinion, but if you voice your baseless thinly veiled biggoted opinion in public prepare to be criticised and ridiculed. This is not a 'tough issue' like privacy rights, invasion of another sovereign or euthanasia, this is simple inequality and discrimination.

    These people use hyperbolic scare tactics and religious dogma to subjugate a portion of society. It's our duty as gay men to call them out on it.


    +1

    I wonder what is CuriousJock's definition of bigot.
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    cbdtw79 saidWe live in a country where everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    Apparently they didn't get THAT memo way down there in Wilton Manors, FL icon_rolleyes.gif

    Of course it did. Actually we note these things rather closely. The issue is who is anti-gay, and who is not. You are, I'm not. Did you get THAT note?
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    Jun 16, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    cbdtw79 saidWe live in a country where everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    Apparently they didn't get THAT memo way down there in Wilton Manors, FL icon_rolleyes.gif

    Of course it did. Actually we note these things rather closely. The issue is who is anti-gay, and who is not. You are, I'm not. Did you get that note?


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    Jun 16, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidThe issue is who is anti-gay, and who is not. You are, I'm not. Did you get that note?



    Nope, I stopped trying to read those delusional voices that run rampant in your fragile mind long ago --- somewhere around the time many of your posts began to ramble so long that HBO could option them as an epic made-for-TV mini-series icon_rolleyes.gif

    Arty, I have provided a link that I hope will be helpful... icon_wink.gif

    http://www.psychologist-online.com/florida-wiltonmanors-6282.htm