Israel's Netanyahu obliterates any chance of implementing the "Clinton parameters."

  • tokugawa

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    Jun 18, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    ...
    As history, both ancient and more recent, teaches us, there is another vital component in the inculcation of a whole society with xenophobia. It's the big lie, repeated over and over until ordinary people inadvertently come to regard it as truth. "Go and worship your God," Pharaoh pretended to Moses, time after time. His own people no doubt believed him.

    In our own case, this past year, Netanyahu has incessantly repeated his mantra that he's merely doing in Jerusalem "what all my predecessors have done for 43 years." The purpose of this pretense is to erase from the public mind, at home and abroad, the fact that two of his predecessors negotiated with the Palestinians and the Americans over dividing the city. The purpose, too, is deliberately to blur the hugely significant difference between building in the Jewish neighborhoods that have been developed over decades and forcibly inserting Jewish settlers into all-Arab neighborhoods like Sheikh Jarrah. The purpose, basically, is to obliterate any chance of implementing the "Clinton parameters" - Jewish areas to Israel, Arab areas to Palestine, Holy Basin to God [or an international consortium representing Him] and thus reaching a fair compromise on Jerusalem.
    ...

    full article: http://tinyurl.com/2bwk7jd
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    Jun 18, 2011 6:51 AM GMT
    The most obvious sign that Netanyahu and his Far Right Zionist Administration don't want peace, but want to continue the status quo Occupation, is those damn settlements, which have not really been stopped for a long long time. Netanyahu has approved about 2000 more Zionist Settlement units for construction so far this year and there are several hundred that have been under construction for several months, ALL ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY. The CHUTZPAH on Netanyahu's part to approve more just before and just after his coming to meet with Obama, congress and AIPAC is totally out of line with seeking peace with the Palestinians on whose land they are building these Settlements. YET THE GOD DAMN IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON WONDER WHY WE ARE HATED IN THE ARAB WORLD WHILE WE GIVE BLIND APPROVAL TO EVERYTHING ISRAEL DOES.



    Common sense tells us that if a neighbor steals from another neighbor that if he wants peace with that neighbor, that he must return what he has stolen, or make restitution and promise to steal no more. There's no way in the everyday world of justice that the person stealing can claim he seeks peace with his neighbor while continuing to steal from him. THINGS JUST DON'T WORK THAT WAY UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CHUTZPAH THAT THE ZIONISTS DO, WHO MUST THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORS HAVE.

    The US makes a fool of its foreign relations/diplomacy coddling Israel as it has been doing. We for all intents and purposes are giving money to Israel to turn around and use it to lobby our own government to go along with everything they do. Congress and the Senate shutter at the thought of calling for Israel to be reasonable because they know that AIPAC will cut off their financial support and can ruin their career by calling them Anti Semitic for telling the truth about Israels unfair actions.
  • tokugawa

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    Jun 18, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    realifedad said ... The US makes a fool of its foreign relations/diplomacy coddling Israel as it has been doing. We for all intents and purposes are giving money to Israel to turn around and use it to lobby our own government to go along with everything they do. Congress and the Senate shutter at the thought of calling for Israel to be reasonable because they know that AIPAC will cut off their financial support and can ruin their career by calling them Anti Semitic for telling the truth about Israels unfair actions.

    AIPAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee, is not a political action committee, and does not directly donate to campaigns.

    However, AIPAC's web site, which details how members of Congress voted on AIPAC's key issues, and the AIPAC Insider, a glossy periodical that handicaps close political races, are scrutinized by thousands of potential donors. Pro-Israel interests have contributed $56.8 million in individual, group, and soft money donations to federal candidates and party committees since 1990, according to the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.

    ...

    AIPAC has been criticized as being misrepresentative of American Jews who support Israel and that AIPAC is solely in favor of right-wing Israeli policy and viewpoints.[41][42]

    Among the best-known critical works about AIPAC is The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, by University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer and Harvard University Kennedy School of Government professor Stephen Walt. In the working paper and resulting book they accuse AIPAC of being "the most powerful and best known" component of a larger pro-Israel lobby that distorts American foreign policy. They write:[43]

    "AIPAC's success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. ... AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the myriad pro-Israel PACs. Those seen as hostile to Israel, on the other hand, can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to their political opponents. ... The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world."
    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aipac

    The last major defeat for the pro-Israel lobby occurred at the beginning of the Reagan administration (1981), when Congress narrowly approved the sale of AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia.

    sourec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US/Saudi_AWACS_Sale
  • Webster666

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    Jun 18, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    tokugawa said ...
    As history, both ancient and more recent, teaches us, there is another vital component in the inculcation of a whole society with xenophobia. It's the big lie, repeated over and over until ordinary people inadvertently come to regard it as truth. "Go and worship your God," Pharaoh pretended to Moses, time after time. His own people no doubt believed him.

    In our own case, this past year, Netanyahu has incessantly repeated his mantra that he's merely doing in Jerusalem "what all my predecessors have done for 43 years." The purpose of this pretense is to erase from the public mind, at home and abroad, the fact that two of his predecessors negotiated with the Palestinians and the Americans over dividing the city. The purpose, too, is deliberately to blur the hugely significant difference between building in the Jewish neighborhoods that have been developed over decades and forcibly inserting Jewish settlers into all-Arab neighborhoods like Sheikh Jarrah. The purpose, basically, is to obliterate any chance of implementing the "Clinton parameters" - Jewish areas to Israel, Arab areas to Palestine, Holy Basin to God [or an international consortium representing Him] and thus reaching a fair compromise on Jerusalem.
    ...

    full article: http://tinyurl.com/2bwk7jd





    Dear Jew hater,
    For the past 60+ years, every single effort that Israel has made toward peace with the Palestinians has resulted in more bloodshed for Israel. Prime Minister Netanyahu understands that the Palestinians don't want peace. Fuck the "Clinton parameters."

    "There will be no peace until they learn to love their children more than they hate us."
    --Golda Meir

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    Jun 18, 2011 7:40 PM GMT
    There are no "JEW HATERS" thus far in this forum and indeed few that I've ever read from on RJ !!!

    60 years of supposedly seeking peace while during the whole time seeking also to take as much land as possible from the Palestinians for ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS. Last I checked a people taking from another people show that they want peace by ceasing to take what belongs to the other.

    The CONTINUED SETTLEMENTS GIVE THE LIE TO ISRAELS SUPPOSEDLY SEEKING PEACE.
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    Jun 18, 2011 10:30 PM GMT
    I think what most RealJock members realized long ago is clearly evident in this forum:
    A (debatable) current event is used as an excuse to attack Israel.

    I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1560570

    Just look how quickly this post went from the would-be "topic" to that.
    (Hint: fewer than it takes licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop.)

    tokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.
    Consider further tokugawa's hypocrisy.
    He himself has come out against the Clinton compromise parameters.

    UNSCR 242, Oslo Accords, Camp David 2000 and Taba 2001
    (I support the Clinton COMPROMISE parameters. Do you?!)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/354843


    He demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    This topic should be renamed: "Another regurgitated pretense to convince ignorant readers to hate & bash Israel".
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    Jun 19, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidI think what most RealJock members realized long ago is clearly evident in this forum:
    A (debatable) current event is used as an excuse to attack Israel.

    I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1560570

    Just look how quickly this post went from the would-be "topic" to that.
    (Hint: fewer than it takes licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop.)

    tokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.
    Consider further tokugawa's hypocrisy.
    He himself has come out against the Clinton compromise parameters.

    UNSCR 242, Oslo Accords, Camp David 2000 and Taba 2001
    (I support the Clinton COMPROMISE parameters. Do you?!)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/354843


    He demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    This topic should be renamed: "Another regurgitated pretense to convince ignorant readers to hate & bash Israel".


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    That topic about terrorist threads against Israel is hardly proof of anything LIL'AIPAC



    You've avoided explaining how its hatist and racist against Jews and Israel, for Pouncer on another topic to say that some Arabic people are Semitic, now LIL'AIPAC, can you tell us how pointing out that Netayahu and his far righters don't seem to want peace, is hating and bashing Israel?

    ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND TO THE FACT THAT BUILDING SETTLEMENTS ON PALESTINIAN OCCUPIED TERRITORY IS NOT A PEACEFUL ACTION LIL'AIPAC ?

    CAN YOU NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH WITHOUT CALLING THE TRUTH TELLER A HATER, A DEMONIZER and ANTI SEMITIC ? Nobody buys that tired old Zionist tactic anymore, we see right through your bullshit.
  • tokugawa

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    Jun 20, 2011 7:53 PM GMT
    Webster666 said
    tokugawa said ...
    As history, both ancient and more recent, teaches us, there is another vital component in the inculcation of a whole society with xenophobia. It's the big lie, repeated over and over until ordinary people inadvertently come to regard it as truth. "Go and worship your God," Pharaoh pretended to Moses, time after time. His own people no doubt believed him.

    In our own case, this past year, Netanyahu has incessantly repeated his mantra that he's merely doing in Jerusalem "what all my predecessors have done for 43 years." The purpose of this pretense is to erase from the public mind, at home and abroad, the fact that two of his predecessors negotiated with the Palestinians and the Americans over dividing the city. The purpose, too, is deliberately to blur the hugely significant difference between building in the Jewish neighborhoods that have been developed over decades and forcibly inserting Jewish settlers into all-Arab neighborhoods like Sheikh Jarrah. The purpose, basically, is to obliterate any chance of implementing the "Clinton parameters" - Jewish areas to Israel, Arab areas to Palestine, Holy Basin to God [or an international consortium representing Him] and thus reaching a fair compromise on Jerusalem.
    ...

    full article: http://tinyurl.com/2bwk7jd


    ... Fuck the "Clinton parameters."

    I guess you disagree with c4.

    Webster666 said"There will be no peace until they learn to love their children more than they hate us."
    --Golda Meir

    "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people ... They didn't exist."
    -- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

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    tokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.

    Consider further tokugawa's hypocrisy.
    He himself has come out against the Clinton compromise parameters.


    tokugawa> [busted]


    He demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    This topic should be renamed: "Another regurgitated pretense to convince ignorant readers to hate & bash Israel".
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    Caesarea4 saidtokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.

    Consider further tokugawa's hypocrisy.
    He himself has come out against the Clinton compromise parameters.


    tokugawa> [busted]


    He demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    This topic should be renamed: "Another regurgitated pretense to convince ignorant readers to hate & bash Israel".



    POOR LIL'AIPAC, he's convinced there's a JEW HATER around every corner and everyone is out to destroy Israel. MAYBE ISRAEL AND THE ZIONISTS SHOULD ACT BETTER TOWARD ITS NEIGHBORS, THEN THEY MIGHT HAVE AN EASIER GO OF IT.

    YOU KNOW WHEN EVERYONE SEEMS AGAINST YOU, YOUR FUCKING DOING SOMETHING WRONG. DUUUUUUUUH !!!

    STEAL A LITTLE MORE LAND AND BUILD SOME MORE ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS, SEE IF THAT HELPS ISRAEL BE MORE LOVED. HOW'S THAT WORKING FOR YOU ?

    Weren't you the one LIL'AIPAC that complained that Israel has never been so Isolated !!!! GEEZE I WONDER WHY ?? STEAL SOME MORE OCCUPIED TERRITORY, THAT'LL MAKE EM LUV YA !!!! DUMB ASS ZIONISTS !!!!
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:51 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidAgain Caesarea4 is busted! - Never trust a Zionist

    Really? How so?

    Do you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
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    Jun 25, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidtokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.
    ...
    He demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it. ...


    It seems like I struck a nerve here.

    c4 supports the Clinton parameters but Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu does not.

    Netanyahu does not support peace, and he continues to build new settlements in the West Bank to let everybody know he prefers the status quo and does not support peace.

    It is c4 who spews hate, as the above post demonstrates. As usual, c4 attempts to change the subject of this thread from the original post to a personal attack on me. Suggestion regarding c4: press the 'spam' button and the 'ignore his posts' button; as c4 himself advocates on a different thread.

    c4 should direct his hate towards the publisher of the above article, the Israeli newpaper Ha'aretz, and its author, David Landau.

    Ha'aretz, often referred to as the Israeli New York Times, must enjoy demonizing Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    By the way, all Israeli newpapers must go through Israel military censors, who are part of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF), who must enjoy demonizing Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it, since the censors allowed this column to be printed, and the IDF allows those same censors to keep their jobs.

    Busted again, c4.
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    You guys notice that LIL'AIPAC (C4) still refuses to address those damn SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY that are a block to peace, illegal and certainly don't promote those "Clinton Parameters" he keeps referring to. What a one sided joke it is for him to ignore the glaring block to peace that the settlements are, but still has the "SHITZPAH" to ask "on what will the Palestinians compromise" LOL !!!

    Compromise my ass !!!! the Palestinians are left so 'compromised' by the Israel theft of their land and all the other unfair advantages they have taken against the Palestinians that there is nothing left for them to do but demand an end to those damn settlements before agreeing to talks.

    ZIONIST ISRAELI LEADERS like Settlements because the more they build, the more land they intend to keep, that's their goal, to frustrate the peace talks long enough to make it impossible so they can come out with more strategic land and make the ZIONIST PROPAGANDA claim that Palestinians refused to seek peace. TAKES A LOT OF "SHITZPAH" to make such claims while underhandedly taking actions to keep peace from coming about for their own ZIONIST SETTLEMENT INTERESTS.


    These tactics when used to take Jewish Land, businesses and farms back in the late 30's and early 40's in Germany and throughout Europe, were very unjust and were met with Jewish disgust and outcries against the injustices. Who would ever have dreamed that Jewish people would allow their leaders to treat others as unjustly as they themselves had been treated in the past. That is a real shame !!!!
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    Once again sxydrkhair busts himself and shows his true colors as an apologist for racism and terrorism:

    sxydrkhair> Never trust a Zionist. Hamas was well organized, not corrupt like Fatah. Hamas is only Palestinian resistance movement that fight back against occupiers.

    Never mind the "occupier" fallacy, but here again we see that sxydrkhair attempts to rationalize and justify the targeting and murder of innocent civilians, by the bus-load, as "fight[ing]". He should then clearly understand why Israel "fight[s] back" against the terrorists - targeting them (despite their "cowardly blending" amongst and behind their own civilians.


    Do you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?


    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]


    tokugawa's purpose isn't to criticize or discuss Netanyahu's policies but to vilify Israel.

    Consider further tokugawa's hypocrisy.
    He himself has come out against the Clinton compromise parameters.


    tokugawa> Netanyahu does not support peace....

    He does, but the question was regarding your hypocrisy.
    How can you (like sxydrkhair) be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!


    tokugawa 1> c4 supports the Clinton parameters
    tokugawa 2> It is c4 who spews hate

    The usual conflicted and twisted argument.


    tokugawa demonizes Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it.

    tokugawa> Ha'aretz, often referred to as the Israeli New York Times, must....

    Ha'aretz doesn't selectively post the one-sided stream of unbalanced invective the handful of anti-Israel war-mongers do.

    Furthermore, Haaretz does support the Clinton compromse, as does the author of the opinion piece you linked.


    tokugawa> all Israeli newpapers must go through Israel military censors, who are part of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF), who must enjoy demonizing Israel not in the cause of peace but to rationalize, justify and perpetuate the war to destroy it, since the censors allowed this column to be printed, and the IDF allows those same censors to keep their jobs.

    IDF censors only check for militarily sensitive information, not opinion.
    So your argument backfired on 2 fronts.
    (Let me know if you need me to spell this out for you.)


    This topic should be renamed: "Another regurgitated pretense to convince ignorant readers to hate & bash Israel".

    As we see one such topic after another, in fewer posts than it takes licks to get to the center of a tootsie-pop, the war-mongers use the topic to regurgitate their tired old anti-Israel slogans and soundbites - despite the fact that this has already been discussed to death.


    UNSCR 242, Oslo Accords, Camp David 2000 and Taba 2001
    (I support the Clinton COMPROMISE parameters. Do you?!)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/354843

    I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1560570

    Yalla, Peace!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1285693

    Read for yourself what the anti-Israel posters have to say in those topics and how they have nothing pro-peace to say.
    Once again proving that they hate Israel/Jews more than they care for the Palestinian Arabs.
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    LIL'AIPAC (C4), you still haven't answered my question about why you support continued Settlement building under Netanyahu's approval when those very settlements go against the Clinton parameters and are obviously a block to peace. Why do you keep going back to this while ignoring those damn Settlements Israel is building on Palestinian Occupied Territory?

    What is Anti Jew or Anti Semitic about pushing for Israel to stop the DAMN SETTLEMENTS ISRAEL IS BUILDING ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ?

    LIL'AIPAC you make a fool of yourself and make a sham of your cause by not answering !!
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    Jun 28, 2011 12:48 AM GMT
    'Israel could have made peace with Hamas under Yassin'
    Haaretz.com
    Latest update 12:05 18.04.09
    By Kobi Ben-Simhon

    ... Ben-Simhon: What did you talk about?

    Sela (chief intelligence officer of the Israel Prisons ): "Business - intelligence. When the biggest adversaries sit down to talk face to face, it's a different ball game. I always told him, 'Stop blowing up buses, stop murdering women and children.' He (Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Hamas founder) replied: 'Tzvika, listen, we had good teachers: You established a state thanks to your military power. The dead I take from you are for the sake of establishing a state, but you are killing women and children for the sake of the occupation. You already have a state. You are dirty and hypocritical. I have no interest in destroying you - all I want is a state."

    Ben-Simhon: So the father of the Hamas movement told you he recognized the State of Israel?

    Sela: "Yes.
    He was smart and brave. Cruel, but credible. He gave his life in the war for the freedom of his people. I tend to think that if we had tried for an agreement with him, we would have succeeded. … "

    Full story: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-could-have-made-peace-with-hamas-under-yassin-1.274217

    Rather than talk to Yassin about peace, Israeli Prime Minister Sharon had him assassinated.

    When Arafat unconditionally accepted the last Israeli peace offer made at the Taba negotiations, Sharon rejected Arafat's acceptance of the ISRAELI PEACE OFFER, and said it expired, and offered no alternative.

    Who's really against peace?
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    Do you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!


    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]

    tokugawa> [diversions]




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    Caesarea4 saidDo you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!


    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]

    tokugawa> [diversions]






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    Lets help this simpleton LIL'AIPAC understand that people with good sense don't accuse others of what they themselves are doing because it shows how OBNOXIOUS they are and puts a bad light on their cause.


    How many times do you have to be reminded that what your asking is a diversion from the real block to peace which is the God Damn continuation of ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ?

    Have you responded to our questions about how you can support Netanyahu's approval of 2000 additional ZIONIST SETTLEMENT UNITS, when it is a block to peace ? DEAFENING SILENCE !!!!


    NOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE TWO ABOVE ?? LMAO
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    Do you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!


    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]

    tokugawa> [diversions]
    tokugawa> [defeaning silence]

    hidden member> [probably spitting insanely in caps to run interference]
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    Caesarea4 saidDo you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!


    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]

    tokugawa> [diversions]
    tokugawa> [defeaning silence]

    hidden member> [probably spitting insanely in caps to run interference]



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    Still no answers LIL'AIPAC ?


    WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT "DEAFENING SILENCE" ?

    POOR LIL'AIPAC !!! THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS HE JUST CANNOT FACE WITH A STRAIGHT ANSWER, SO THE LIL' FELLER 'PLUGS' HIS EARS !!!
  • tokugawa

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    Jul 13, 2011 1:25 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 said... A (debatable) current event is used as an excuse to attack Israel. ...


    Maybe because Israel always sabotages peace.

    Q: Why does c4 engage in name calling and insults so often?

    A: Because c4 cannot refute the truth.
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    Jul 14, 2011 6:41 PM GMT
    c4: ?
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    Oct 07, 2011 12:28 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    Caesarea4 saidDo you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!
    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]
    tokugawa> [diversions]


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    Lets help this simpleton LIL'AIPAC understand that people with good sense don't accuse others of what they themselves are doing because it shows how OBNOXIOUS they are and puts a bad light on their cause.


    How many times do you have to be reminded that what your asking is a diversion from the real block to peace which is the God Damn continuation of ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ?

    Have you responded to our questions about how you can support Netanyahu's approval of 2000 additional ZIONIST SETTLEMENT UNITS, when it is a block to peace ? DEAFENING SILENCE !!!!


    NOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE TWO ABOVE ?? LMAO


    No answers from c4.
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    tokugawa said
    realifedad said
    Caesarea4 saidDo you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!
    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]
    tokugawa> [diversions]


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    Lets help this simpleton LIL'AIPAC understand that people with good sense don't accuse others of what they themselves are doing because it shows how OBNOXIOUS they are and puts a bad light on their cause.


    How many times do you have to be reminded that what your asking is a diversion from the real block to peace which is the God Damn continuation of ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ?

    Have you responded to our questions about how you can support Netanyahu's approval of 2000 additional ZIONIST SETTLEMENT UNITS, when it is a block to peace ? DEAFENING SILENCE !!!!


    NOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE TWO ABOVE ?? LMAO


    No answers from c4.





    LIL'AIPAC wouldn't answer then, and now that the settlement approvals for this year alone is in the range of 6,000 units approved, he is even less likely to have a realistic response for all the settlement building while he claims his LIKUD's want peace.

    You know tokuqawa, there is something about LIL'AIPAC's OBNOXIOUS ARROGANCE that speaks of his being a proponent of 'GOYISM' toward some of us. Oh well !!

    Did you read how Pissed Angela Merkle was with Netanyahu over the last 1100 Settlement Units he approved a couple days after the UN meeting ? I am amazed at the articles and comments from Israeli citizens who fear for Israel over his LIKUD Party intransigence.

    Yet we have Obama caving to Netanyahu's every wish, thereby going against his own words on Settlements and other issues to grovel for AIPAC's approval and their affiliates/adherents campaign money. After his piss poor performance at the UN, we're every bit as Isolated as far as the Middle East is concerned as is Israel. The world looks at the US as Israels Lap Dog. What a sad day for our Foreign Relations.
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    Dec 06, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    tokugawa said
    realifedad said
    Caesarea4 saidDo you support the Clinton compromise parameters?
    If not, how can you be critical of Netanyahu for allegedly opposing them?
    How can you be critical of someone for opposing something that you yourself oppose?!
    sxydrkhair> [defeaning silence]
    tokugawa> [diversions]


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    Lets help this simpleton LIL'AIPAC understand that people with good sense don't accuse others of what they themselves are doing because it shows how OBNOXIOUS they are and puts a bad light on their cause.


    How many times do you have to be reminded that what your asking is a diversion from the real block to peace which is the God Damn continuation of ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ?

    Have you responded to our questions about how you can support Netanyahu's approval of 2000 additional ZIONIST SETTLEMENT UNITS, when it is a block to peace ? DEAFENING SILENCE !!!!

    NOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE TWO ABOVE ?? LMAO


    No answers from c4.


    LIL'AIPAC wouldn't answer then, and now that the settlement approvals for this year alone is in the range of 6,000 units approved, he is even less likely to have a realistic response for all the settlement building while he claims his LIKUD's want peace.

    You know tokuqawa, there is something about LIL'AIPAC's OBNOXIOUS ARROGANCE that speaks of his being a proponent of 'GOYISM' toward some of us. Oh well !!

    Did you read how Pissed Angela Merkle was with Netanyahu over the last 1100 Settlement Units he approved a couple days after the UN meeting ? I am amazed at the articles and comments from Israeli citizens who fear for Israel over his LIKUD Party intransigence.

    Yet we have Obama caving to Netanyahu's every wish, thereby going against his own words on Settlements and other issues to grovel for AIPAC's approval and their affiliates/adherents campaign money. After his piss poor performance at the UN, we're every bit as Isolated as far as the Middle East is concerned as is Israel. The world looks at the US as Israels Lap Dog. What a sad day for our Foreign Relations.


    c4, do you still support the expansion of settlements in the occupied territories?