Jun 18, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
The PaleolithicDiet Infographic
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Jun 18, 2011 2:36 PM GMT -
Jun 18, 2011 9:51 PM GMTinteresting,..
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Jun 18, 2011 9:58 PM GMTI like the part at the bottom: "Don't use an alarm!"
I haven't used an alarm in over 5 years, with the exception of a few times when it was unavoidable, which I can count on one hand.
Of course, I've also been doing the Paleo (modified) for about a year now and love it. -
Jun 18, 2011 9:59 PM GMTit's nice but at the same time, people live dramatically longer today than they did before
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Jun 18, 2011 10:08 PM GMTIt's just another fad diet.
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Jun 18, 2011 11:04 PM GMTvan_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
Not the way I do it. I've got it "modified" (aka 'some' processed foods). It's fully sustainable, and fits well with a social lifestyle where you're going out to eat/drink once or twice a week. Basically do Paleo as often as possible, and you don't need to worry about the "cheat" meals when you eat them.
PS. The Chicken Linguine Alfredo a couple days ago was fucking delicious...especially with the honey liquor shots.
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Jun 19, 2011 2:43 AM GMTvan_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
I agree that it's a fad diet...especially the way it's marketed and presented. Honestly, the caveman pitch is kind of misleading and corny as hell.
However, when most people use the term "fad diet", they insinuate that a) it doesn't work, b) it's unsustainable, or c) it's unhealthy (or all of the above). In my experience (and the same goes for many other people), I've had nothing but positive results doing a modified version of the Paleo diet.
"The Paleo Diet" as it's marketed and presented nowadays is probably a fad, but the general underlying principles of this way of eating have been around for over a century (read: a time when obesity wasn't a rampant problem):
1. Eat real, whole food. - Jack Lalane was championing this back in the 50s...and look how long he lived.
2. Reduce sugar and starch to control your weight. - See William Banting's Letter on Corpulence, published back in the 1860s. "Banting" was the low-carb fad of the time.
3. Get enough sleep every night. - No brainer -
Jun 19, 2011 11:48 AM GMTvan_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
I would have to disagree with you. I was introduced to this eating lifestyle from my crossfit community. It has educate me how to eating smartly, completely changed my eating lifestyle. Paleo is not a diet. It reminds us to eat fresh food and not all the processed crap that we get in abundance around us.
I only exercise 100% strict Paleo no more than 3 times a year -- 2 months period(longest) per cycle, and no cheat days. The rest of the time I am mostly eating 80% Paleo. I do enjoy my grains and legumes
Any diet that allows me to eat unlimited amount of bacon is my kind of diet
Any diet that don't require me to count calories/portions is my kind of diet
Paleo is the answer.
If you completely cut out "THE UGLY" and try to limit "THE BAD", then your body and mind will thank you for it.
Cheers -
Jun 19, 2011 4:21 PM GMTHeh, the only thing no one is living a true Paleo lifestyle except hunter-gatherers and several nomadic tribes in some remote places in the world. Even then, nearly all of them are under threat to abandon their ways of living due to government and social pressure. They no longer have a choice because of many governments throwing out anti-free-roaming and border laws.
I think the Paleo diet is misleading in that our ancestors lived off what was available to them. Even the ones who adopted pastoralism and small-scale farming only grew what was needed. Geography and climate had everything to do with availability and seasonality of food. It's not like a Paleolithic population in the Middle East could've had a squash anytime they wanted since squashes originate from the Americas. The agricultural revolution allowed plants and animals to become domesticated and produced in massive quantities. That's why we have so much available to us. Not the case with real Paleolithic people.
The dairy situation is sticky. Nearly all ancient humans were lactose intolerant. Certain populations developed a gene mutation that produced lactase, and then they started to develop dairy farming. Since then the gene has obviously become more common in human populations across the world. But the fact is most humans remain lactose intolerant. Some regions remain universally so. -
Jun 19, 2011 8:24 PM GMTnot sure why people allow themselves to be so silly on this one. The cave man stuff is a gimmick, but the basic point - that our modern, and even fairly ancient diet is not optimal for our genes - is actually pretty convincing.
I love and hate the paleo diet. It is fucking difficult to do. Really. Absolute pain in the ass. But it does help me. So I mostly hate it, but I still follow it -
Jun 20, 2011 7:09 PM GMTLostboy said
I love and hate the paleo diet. It is fucking difficult to do. Really. Absolute pain in the ass. But it does help me. So I mostly hate it, but I still follow it
Again, the philosophy of this eating lifestyle works.
To the previous poster -- this eating lifestyle does not suggest we eat like caveman but on the contrary use the caveman as an example and try to adapt to current eating habits. Eat gluten-free, sugar free, and processed food free is more than half the battle. -
Jun 20, 2011 9:32 PM GMTpaleo is making the claim that the human body has not caught up with agricultural revolution and though we can survive on grains etc, we do not thrive on them as they attack the digestive system. -
Jun 20, 2011 9:44 PM GMTLonelywalker saidit's nice but at the same time, people live dramatically longer today than they did before
They didn't have gastronomy tubes back then. -
Jun 20, 2011 10:01 PM GMTI did the paleo diet almost 100% for a month a little while ago. It is definitely not easy to maintain it 100%, but I actually really enjoyed it, and it made me leaner, made my skin look better, I slept better and overall had more energy. Now I'm still following the basic tenets of it but allowing myself some leeway, AKA breads here and there and sweets too. But I love eating fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts/meats/eggs, so it naturally worked for me. It may be a fad diet like others said, but it fundamentally is just telling you to eat whole foods and nothing processed. You really can't argue with that. -
Jun 20, 2011 10:13 PM GMTn2briefs2 said
van_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
I would have to disagree with you. I was introduced to this eating lifestyle from my crossfit community. It has educate me how to eating smartly, completely changed my eating lifestyle. Paleo is not a diet. It reminds us to eat fresh food and not all the processed crap that we get in abundance around us.
I only exercise 100% strict Paleo no more than 3 times a year -- 2 months period(longest) per cycle, and no cheat days. The rest of the time I am mostly eating 80% Paleo. I do enjoy my grains and legumes
Any diet that allows me to eat unlimited amount of bacon is my kind of diet
Any diet that don't require me to count calories/portions is my kind of diet
Paleo is the answer.
If you completely cut out "THE UGLY" and try to limit "THE BAD", then your body and mind will thank you for it.
Cheers
Your reply post proves my point.
"Paleolithic diet consists mainly of meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, roots, and nuts, and excludes grains, legumes, dairy products, salt, refined sugar, and processed oils"
So since you do eat grains, legumes, what are you saying is that you don't eat dairy products. Which is a mistake. There are REAL benefits to milk and dairy products. But bacon? saturated fats? Please.
Salt, refined sugar, and processed oils is just regular healthy nutrition.
There are general nutrition guidelines everyone should follow, but there isn't any special diet available out there.
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Jun 20, 2011 10:18 PM GMTwildtype87 said
van_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
I agree that it's a fad diet...especially the way it's marketed and presented. Honestly, the caveman pitch is kind of misleading and corny as hell.
However, when most people use the term "fad diet", they insinuate that a) it doesn't work, b) it's unsustainable, or c) it's unhealthy (or all of the above). In my experience (and the same goes for many other people), I've had nothing but positive results doing a modified version of the Paleo diet.
"The Paleo Diet" as it's marketed and presented nowadays is probably a fad, but the general underlying principles of this way of eating have been around for over a century (read: a time when obesity wasn't a rampant problem):
1. Eat real, whole food. - Jack Lalane was championing this back in the 50s...and look how long he lived.
2. Reduce sugar and starch to control your weight. - See William Banting's Letter on Corpulence, published back in the 1860s. "Banting" was the low-carb fad of the time.
3. Get enough sleep every night. - No brainer
You make great general nutrition points.
By fad diet I meant :
"Fad diet usually refer to idiosyncratic diets and eating patterns that promote short-term weight loss, usually with no concern for long-term weight maintenance, and enjoy temporary popularity"
The one thing i have noticed with all the diet plans available out there is that each one takes a bit from the science we know at the moment and creates some miracle, universal diet around that. -
Jun 20, 2011 10:56 PM GMTLostboy saidpaleo is making the claim that the human body has not caught up with agricultural revolution and though we can survive on grains etc, we do not thrive on them as they attack the digestive system.
Beware of leaky gut.
Here's a link to a geek out talk on Paleo -- leaky gut, dairy, etc.... enjoy.
http://robbwolf.com/2011/03/01/the-paleo-solution-episode-69/ -
Jun 21, 2011 1:41 AM GMTpaulflexes said
You forgot to mention it's cheap. Seriously if I only ate meats and vegetables, I'd be spending less than $50/week on groceries.van_can saidIt's just another fad diet.
Not the way I do it. I've got it "modified" (aka 'some' processed foods). It's fully sustainable, and fits well with a social lifestyle where you're going out to eat/drink once or twice a week. Basically do Paleo as often as possible, and you don't need to worry about the "cheat" meals when you eat them.
PS. The Chicken Linguine Alfredo a couple days ago was fucking delicious...especially with the honey liquor shots.
Alas- meat is expensive... -
Jun 21, 2011 5:03 PM GMTHow can the paleolithic diet be a "fad" diet when its been researched for decades? It simply has not been marketed as something to follow...,
maybe the word "diet" is throwing you off here, it originally simply meant what people eat (diet = what you eat, not a regimen, as in "a varied diet"),
so in this case... the paleolithic diet is what people used to eat before the agricultural revolution...
yeah thats hard to follow, because we're used to a post-agricultural diet nowadays, which is not adapted to the body's evolution, plain and simple
I myself wonder if I will take up the diet, because it requires alot of fish, much of which is less and less available and less healthy (more toxins).. anyone have answers to this problem? -
Jun 21, 2011 5:05 PM GMTvan_can said<
By fad diet I meant :
"Fad diet usually refer to idiosyncratic diets and eating patterns that promote short-term weight loss, usually with no concern for long-term weight maintenance, and enjoy temporary popularity"
The one thing i have noticed with all the diet plans available out there is that each one takes a bit from the science we know at the moment and creates some miracle, universal diet around that.
Well, I believe the paleolithic diet is STILL eaten in some areas to this day, namely in Africa and the Amazon by tribes still not having lived the agricultural revolution.. I think its less science than just a different habit.... -
Jun 21, 2011 5:07 PM GMTpocketnico saidHeh, the only thing no one is living a true Paleo lifestyle except hunter-gatherers and several nomadic tribes in some remote places in the world. .
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Jun 21, 2011 8:35 PM GMTRegarding fish issue -- I am advised to eat only wild caught seafood if possible. I am also taking daily required doses of omega 3 fish oil until my body balance out the ratio between Omega 6 and 3 ...
Regarding the term "diet" -- I like to call it lifestyle. Back to the basics. -
Jun 21, 2011 8:54 PM GMTGreenhopper said
van_can said<
By fad diet I meant :
"Fad diet usually refer to idiosyncratic diets and eating patterns that promote short-term weight loss, usually with no concern for long-term weight maintenance, and enjoy temporary popularity"
The one thing i have noticed with all the diet plans available out there is that each one takes a bit from the science we know at the moment and creates some miracle, universal diet around that.
Well, I believe the paleolithic diet is STILL eaten in some areas to this day, namely in Africa and the Amazon by tribes still not having lived the agricultural revolution.. I think its less science than just a different habit....
I mentioned before this diet as all the other diets take some bits of science out the context.
This is based in the mid 1970s when the theory at the time thought the early men were hunters, the killers!
Today it is believed the early humans were in fact scavengers. Thus surviving on whatever was left on bones and bone marrow.
It will help every single person that needs to lose weight to know that general nutrition rules is pretty much all one needs. There is no magic diet.
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Jun 21, 2011 9:05 PM GMTMy pediatrician (a while back obviously) told me that drinking apple juice is like eating 200 apples. If you drink juice you could get fat and if you eat 200 apples you could still get fat. The point of my story is to not over indulge, and that certain foods could help you hit that 200 apple mark faster. -
Jun 21, 2011 9:45 PM GMTcturtle saidMy pediatrician (a while back obviously) told me that drinking apple juice is like eating 200 apples. If you drink juice you could get fat and if you eat 200 apples you could still get fat. The point of my story is to not over indulge, and that certain foods could help you hit that 200 apple mark faster.
I challenge you to a) get fat eating apples (no juice) b) eat 200 apples.
I love Paleo but I hate that fucking graphic. It's pretty but it just has so many things wrong with it.
And fad_diet_dude - try doing 30 days of paleo and tells us how it went afterwards. If you need help getting started go here http://whole9life.com/2010/12/whole30-2011/ And no, there's no unlimited bacon. My personal experience is that while I lost fat my weight went up 2 pounds. So it's not another lose-weight-by-eliminating-everything-you-usually-eat-so-you-end-up-in-a-caloric-deficit-diet. It does require you to cook though.
