Do Asians/Orientals even belong on a website such as RealJock?

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    Jun 19, 2011 10:49 AM GMT
    The message I get from the gay world is that we're a bunch of sexually undesirable pariahs. Should any of us even be on here?icon_neutral.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 10:56 AM GMT
    Wow this is almost too outrageous to repond. Of course, you belong on RJ. You know the truth about yourself and you are not sexually undesirable pariahs.

    With this being said I would say that it is sometimes not all that easy to get to know asians. Asians seem to be rather clanish. Am I right or wrong on this?
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    Jun 19, 2011 11:03 AM GMT
    I just wrote a forum about the subject. If you haven't done so already
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    Jun 19, 2011 11:15 AM GMT
    fromthepacific saidI just wrote a forum about the subject. If you haven't done so already


    Having a great ripped, gym built body, is something that every gay man can be attracted to or dream about. However, racial preferences in the gay community has always had its standards; in which asians are never really been quite a part of. In America and what is showcased in its numerous media outlets; the typical depiction is of a white man, or at least something within that frame: that prominent nose, wide forehead, strong jaw and statuesque broad frame, is always considered beautiful.

    But it is sad to say that asians throughout the course of history has been desexualized in numerous ways because they are typically never shown as being masculine, robust or assertive, and hence, has affected the gay culture's image of the asian male. To simply quote, "a low percentage of the gay community find asian men desireable." From my personal experience and the expectations laid ahead of me with blind dates, social settings: asian men are generally looked over. Take this site for example. I am a mixed breed: half australian and half thai, you can say, "your somewhat classic interracial person, white/asian." Yet somehow when I post my profile on dating sites, occasional "looking for possible.....," posts and responses to ads, the mention of the race "asian" automatically deters other men from taking an interest in me without even seeing what I look like, or even giving the chance to know me. Let's face the candid truth, " A book is judged by its cover in this community."

    "Don't get me started on hookups." There's this perception about asian men; and how they're not part of the "lottery gene pool," how they are tiny, feminine, have small penises, hairless and child like. And as much as I want to say that these men are prejudice, I really can't; because, society and the media has never portrayed "the asian male" as anything less. And hence embedded the idea in the "gay culture" particularly, that asian men do not fit the profile of the masculine man.

    "Why is that." There is the occassional hang ups, "not interested," " I don't go for asians," "I don't do asians," "your not my type," "It's getting late." When I am in public, I will say people can't tell I'm generally half asian, I'm 6'0 slightly bigger frame and you can say a cross between Russell wong (Vanishing Son, Dim Sum Funeral) and George Eads (CSI, Savannah) . What is sad is that from time to time I would hear gay men say, "They don't really go for asians," w/o really saying why; And when asked, "What's your nationality?" "I'm part asian." "Oh well, I would go for you because you don't really look that asian," or something within those lines. "Excuse Me!!" I am somehow an exception because I look a little more on the white side. "I gotta stick up for my asian community." It's not a compliment, it's offensive.

    All I'm saying is just be a little more open and break down the stereotype, We are not a fetish, we are not a "give it a try," and not all of us are "POTATO QUEENS." And we certainly don't see it as a privelege or a prize to be with somone other than our own racial group. We are "MEN," Beautiful Men.



    If you believe that there's nothing wrong with you as an Asian and you have a great, gym ripped body, using your own words, why do you not have a picture of yourself on your profile?
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    Jun 19, 2011 11:21 AM GMT
    Fromthepacific,
    I enjoyed reading your forum and your perspective on this. Good work.
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    Jun 19, 2011 11:57 AM GMT
    Orientals. . . Lol

    and I'm from the Americas
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    Jun 19, 2011 11:58 AM GMT
    I date an Asian guy for awhile, and I gotta admit that the differences were just too much...



    He wanted to have group sex all the time...even without me!
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    Jun 19, 2011 12:38 PM GMT
    The assumption that seems inherent in this is that RJ is a dating site. I never thought it primarily is, though of course you can always try to use almost any online social site for that purpose.

    Asking such a question, regarding the suitability of Asians being here, is rather insulting to ME, of European descent. Because there are some of us "Anglos" or Westerners or however you wanna call us for whom such a discriminatory concept would never occur to us to do. I'm sorry to hear that evidently your own experiences have not been pleasant in this regard.
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:01 PM GMT
    Yet another Asian thread icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:02 PM GMT

    So basically, you could broaden that statement to include anyone who isn't white, because the vibe I get from Asian guys who write threads like this is that only white people are desirable and...deserve...fitness tips. However, the white people are saying they never felt that way, so you are barring yourself because they aren't doing it.

    Oh, Mary, I've seen you do this over and over (every time I watch you), let it not be in vain.

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    Jun 19, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    PenguinsEverywhere saidThe message I get from the gay world is that we're a bunch of sexually undesirable pariahs. Should any of us even be on here?icon_neutral.gif


    Are you kidding me? Most people won't even look my way because I'm black. Everyone on here is wanting an Asian, for all I see. icon_confused.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    beneful1 saidYet another Asian thread icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah, Just pathetic, ain't it?
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    Dude, what a stupid question? How is it that you don't feel welcome to this wonderful online community? Is it that you don't get messages? I don't either! So, what?

    And someone please tell me why the fuck this same fucking complaint comes up every fucking week from Asian and Black men! I'm fucking tired of it. There's no reason that you should feel unwelcome.
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:19 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic said
    PenguinsEverywhere saidThe message I get from the gay world is that we're a bunch of sexually undesirable pariahs. Should any of us even be on here?icon_neutral.gif


    Are you kidding me? Most people won't even look my way because I'm black. Everyone on here is wanting an Asian, for all I see. icon_confused.gif


    Well, the sad reality I see living here on a rock in the middle of the Pacific is that Black and Oriental men are in the same lot. We have a hard time navigating the racial politics of the gay world and neither of us are getting as much action as we'd like.
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    Jun 19, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
    I should make a thread saying "the message I get from the Asian gay world is that Black men are a bunch of sexually undesirable pariahs because Asian men only want White men." I know you didn't specify that you wanted to talk to
    White men, but we all know that's what you were getting at; we're not stupid.

    The seemingly almost uniform obsession with White men among Asian and Black men makes me sick! Why can't you see the beauty in all "races" of men?

    As I said in another thread about an Asian crying because he wants a White man and they won't talk to him, one might show at least minimal sympathy towards a complaint such as this one if only he who would dare to make it -- as preposterous as it is -- would not be so glaringly hypocritical in his cries for "fairness" with regards to "race" and sexual attraction.



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    Jun 19, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
    I get next to zero communications, and those I send are ignored I'd say about 98% of the time, because I'm past the age of 25. Cry me a river.
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    I've noticed that there seem to be a significant number of false accusations of racism among a certain subset of Homosexuals, many being Black and Asian men, occasionally a White Male Apologist for not opting for a non-White partner. Has anyone ever stopped to think that Most people date within their race regardless of sexual orientation. Interracial Marriages/Dating are rare. Homosexuals are an even smaller group, so of course most Homosexuals will mostly choose partners of their race. Furthermore, there are more out in the open White Male Homosexuals than Black or Asian ones.

    Why is that White Male Homosexuals accused of racism for not being attraced to Black and Asian males, but when Black and Asian Males only go after Whites they are never accused of being self-loathing or racist against their own race? Funny conundrum. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I think that many hear need to chillax with the accusations of racism. It is getting old.

    OP There is someone for everyone. If your attracted to a certain type you'll just have to do a bit more legwork to get your ideal match.
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    All of you guys of other races than white should boycot the white race! That'll show them!
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:22 PM GMT


    thisdrumbeat is sounded so often it has become a cliché. Do Asians fetishise white guys or something? What ist he obsession with having white guys attracted to them?


    (the question carries with it an implicit suggestion of racial bias, which, if valid, would imply race is the sole determinant of attraction for people. Clearly that is not he case, or we would be attracted to evertyone of our race - which we are not.

    Could it be you just ugly?

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    (I'm just kidding. I haven't look at your profile at all. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    Isn't like Orientals the same as Negros...like...not socially acceptable to say?

    Anyway, I'm pretty blunt, so forgive me if this isn't stated in the most tactful way possible:

    I dunno, it does seem that some minorities have this need to be accepted by the majority (e.g. white people). I know I'm not going to be attractive to some of the majority by virtue of the fact that I'm just a normal black guy, but my attitude to that is WHO THE FUCK CARES? The opinion of the majority should not be what determines your worth. While more acceptable now, if you really cared what the majority thought, you'd probably still be in the closet (I'm assuming you're not, but I could be wrong there).

    I 'm comfortable with myself and that's taken a while to say. There are things I'd change if I could, but I wouldn't change me being black, or attracted to guys, or my unapologetic nature. I wish people would find a way to be happy with themselves and not have their self esteem unnecessarily linked to an antiquated standard of beauty.

    So basically, yes you should be here - as should anyone else who wants to learn more about fitness and/or meet new people.

    Shame on you for letting yourself feel inferior.
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    PenguinsEverywhere saidThe message I get from the gay world is that we're a bunch of sexually undesirable pariahs. Should any of us even be on here?icon_neutral.gif


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    ONLY if you are an asian Republican---then you are NOT welcome here on RJ!icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    I LOVE A HOT ASIAN JOCK
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    Jun 19, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    i've heard numerous times from someone white i was interested in that they usually or only date black, asian, or anything non white.
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    Jun 19, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    Everyone's got a niche.
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    Jun 19, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    PenguinsEverywhere said... Should any of us even be on here?icon_neutral.gif


    Maybe we should all just be "an hero"?