Loosing weight and gaining an 8 pack.

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    Jun 19, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    Hello my name is Tyler and im new here this will be my second post but anyways, I am looking into loosing weight but the problem is that I am 280 something and i am 5'9-1/2"... Yes i do know that i am obese and setting myself up for all kinds of health risks so this is why I'm coming to you all for advice . I am 18 years of age. what's the most easiest way to loose weight while at the same time gaining muscle. Now i dont want to be one of those body builders, i just wanna be slim with a nice sexy body. Im tired of getting talked about and put down and lonely. Please help. icon_redface.gificon_exclaim.gificon_neutral.gificon_neutral.gif

    -Tyler
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    Jun 19, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    can u have a profile if u r under 18???icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    dannylv saidcan u have a profile if u r under 18???icon_eek.gif
    it was a type-o. Im on my phone
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    Jun 19, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
    First and foremost, it's 18+ here.

    Second, eat more protein, drink more water, exercise more, and reduce your calories. Also cut out sugars and dairy. Maybe fruit. It's not easy otherwise I'd have an 8-pack about now, but it does the trick. I wish you luck before the banhammer whacks you on the head for being underage on an adult forum.
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    Jun 19, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
    Lol it was a typeo im on my phone. Ha
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    Eliminate refined sugar, white flour and white rice. LOTS of clean proteins, water, whole grains. WORKOUT. Building muscle burns fat day and night. Cardio in the morning can help rev your metabolism for the day. Since you are so young see a doctor and be sure there isn't any thyroid or other glandular issues. Stick around RJ and see what the other guys are doing and the results they are getting. The motivation factor is extremely high around here!!!! Good Luck!!!!
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:03 PM GMT
    ipike360 said
    dannylv saidcan u have a profile if u r under 18???icon_eek.gif
    it was a type-o. Im on my phone


    in that case...what cash said icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Thanks cash
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:21 PM GMT
    The posters above have given technically good advice, but failed to mention what approach you should take.

    If you try and cut out sugar, dairy, fruit, fat, etc. all at once, you're setting yourself up to fail.

    The first thing you should do is keep track of your eating habits for a week. Don't try and alter them at this point, simply record. Be as detailed as you possibly can - the amount you eat/drink, at what time, where, how you feel (hungry, sad, angry, etc.) when you're eating, or anything else you feel is relevant.

    After doing that, you can identify areas to start improving. For example, if you find that you are drinking 4 glasses of Pepsi a day, try cutting that in half over the period of a week by slowly reducing how much you drink. If that is successful, cut it in half again. Try replacing the Pepsi with something lower in sugar to start, or if you feel able, something calorie-free like water or tea.

    If you find that you always succumb to a craving or have the need to binge right when you get home from work, then try bringing a snack with you to work, and instead of going right home, go to a park or something, eat your snack, and then go home.

    To reiterate, the trick is to make small changes that you can stick to, track your progress, and if you slip, then to just get back on the horse.
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:30 PM GMT
    I was in the same position a few years ago. 310 lbs in my late teens and sick of it. I'm 238lbs now. I'm not done losing weight yet and I'm far from an expert so I'll give you what's helped me so far. Things may be different for you because I'm a vegan so you might have a lot more saturated and trans fats in your diet from red meat etc. But some advice nonetheless.

    - for the iPhone there's an app called tap and track. You can input your weight and other stats. It can help you Keep track of the calories you've eaten in a day vs the amount that you've burned.

    - Don't starve yourself. A lot of fatties like myself make the mistake of thinking that we need to cut our portion sizes down but we portion control ourselves into "starvation mode" which is quite unhealthy. Try to eat small meals 6 times a day. This will help keep your metabolism up.

    - try to eat to what I call the 90/10 rule. If you're like me and you happen to love some foods that are bad for you, then any diet that asks you to cut these things out completely won't last. You need to make little and gradual changes to your lifestyle that you can live with for the rest of your life, lest you live your life yo-yo-ing from obese to slim. Eat healthy 90% of the time, treat yourself the other 10%.

    - get into the habit of doing lots of cardio. Walk more. Do some elliptical trainer if the treadmill is too intense for you. And slowly start adding muscle building exercises as you become more comfortable in the gym.

    -Smoothies are great and healthy for you, but avoid booster juice and jamba juice. Learn to make this stuff at home to save money and calories.

    I'll add more stuff when I think of it.
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    Jun 19, 2011 5:41 PM GMT
    If you have access to a gym, get rowing. It is almost as good a fat burner as running, but with far lower impact. It is a great all-body cv workout. Warm up properly and do not go too hard at it or you will be exhausted before it will have any fat burning benefit. To avoid injury, learn the correct rowing technique. Lots of strokes per minute and a high resistance setting are not the name of the game. Good luck!
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    Jun 19, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidIf you have access to a gym, get rowing. It is almost as good a fat burner as running, but with far lower impact. It is a great all-body cv workout. Warm up properly and do not go too hard at it or you will be exhausted before it will have any fat burning benefit. To avoid injury, learn the correct rowing technique. Lots of strokes per minute and a high resistance setting are not the name of the game. Good luck!


    I think my gym has this but I've never looked at it ever.

    I better go try it next time I go.
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    Jun 19, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    i went and got a trainer. i have never been over weight, but was doing everything wrong. i see her once every 2 months or so and she plots out a workout routine that i use and when i go back she measures/weighs etc to track my progress. thankfully she doesn't charge too much and i see her only an hour every 2 months to change my routine

    i follow the routine pretty close, but not i'm super strict. knowing that i have a proper regiment to follow helps me a lot. it also helped having someone show me what i should be doing to accomplish what it was i wanting to do. the gym you go to may have trainers to show you what do to get you to your goals.

    good luck
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    get p90x to start you out so you have something more regimented
    follow the nutrition advice
    don't eat fatty/sugary foods
    don't eat what your family makes you (because in all likelihood it's fatty and unhealthy)

    [wait 12 months]

    profit?
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    austex85 saidget p90x to start you out so you have something more regimented
    follow the nutrition advice
    don't eat fatty/sugary foods
    don't eat what your family makes you (because in all likelihood it's fatty and unhealthy)

    [wait 12 months]

    profit?



    is that what you did icon_question.gif
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
    ipike... as nice as it is to seek out advice etc....

    the information you gain will be nothing compared to your will to change....

    u clearly eat like crap and dont exercise.....

    change and you will be rewarded... if u want it bad enough you will get it... if not, enjoy being fat


    its very simple...

    sorry bout the rudeness but thats the truth
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    kyleray said
    austex85 saidget p90x to start you out so you have something more regimented
    follow the nutrition advice
    don't eat fatty/sugary foods
    don't eat what your family makes you (because in all likelihood it's fatty and unhealthy)

    [wait 12 months]

    profit?



    is that what you did icon_question.gif


    not really. i just started on a treadmill, and ran every day. i think my knees now are kinda screwed up because of it, but at least i'm not fat now...
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    Running gave me shin splints/runner's knee icon_sad.gif /wrist
  • Jerebear

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    Jun 19, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    track_boi saidipike... as nice as it is to seek out advice etc....

    the information you gain will be nothing compared to your will to change....

    u clearly eat like crap and dont exercise.....

    change and you will be rewarded... if u want it bad enough you will get it... if not, enjoy being fat


    its very simple...

    sorry bout the rudeness but thats the truth


    no its not the truth, its just your opinion

    and you're wrong, his will to change will be nothing compared to the information he gains. If he is ignorant about how to properly regulate his fat tissue than all the will in the world isnt going to help, and the only thing that is "clearly" happening is that you are making all sorts of assumptions about this guy's lifestyle.

    sorry bout the rudeness, but thats the truth
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    austex85 saidget p90x to start you out so you have something more regimented


    This is probably the worst idea ever. P90x is a very intense program, especially for someone who is obese and trying it unless you're prepared for it can lead to serious injury.

    Also, what's the point of starting on an extreme diet/workout plan if once all the weight is gone all the old habits come back and you gain it all back. What needs to be addressed here is one's way of life. And making it so someone can be comfortable with themselves and their diet/lifestyle in order to keep it for life. It took me four years to lose 70 lbs. But I'm confident that I've changed my lifestyle enough that it won't come back once I reach my goal.
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:58 PM GMT
    Jerebear said
    track_boi saidipike... as nice as it is to seek out advice etc....

    the information you gain will be nothing compared to your will to change....

    u clearly eat like crap and dont exercise.....

    change and you will be rewarded... if u want it bad enough you will get it... if not, enjoy being fat


    its very simple...

    sorry bout the rudeness but thats the truth


    no its not the truth, its just your opinion

    and you're wrong, his will to change will be nothing compared to the information he gains. If he is ignorant about how to properly regulate his fat tissue than all the will in the world isnt going to help, and the only thing that is "clearly" happening is that you are making all sorts of assumptions about this guy's lifestyle.

    sorry bout the rudeness, but thats the truth


    This is opinion as well.

    Let's just agree that he needs to educate himself AND have the will to change. icon_smile.gif Can't reach his goal without both of those catalysts.
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    Jun 19, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    Gaydar said
    Jerebear said
    track_boi saidipike... as nice as it is to seek out advice etc....

    the information you gain will be nothing compared to your will to change....

    u clearly eat like crap and dont exercise.....

    change and you will be rewarded... if u want it bad enough you will get it... if not, enjoy being fat


    its very simple...

    sorry bout the rudeness but thats the truth


    no its not the truth, its just your opinion

    and you're wrong, his will to change will be nothing compared to the information he gains. If he is ignorant about how to properly regulate his fat tissue than all the will in the world isnt going to help, and the only thing that is "clearly" happening is that you are making all sorts of assumptions about this guy's lifestyle.

    sorry bout the rudeness, but thats the truth


    This is opinion as well.

    Let's just agree that he needs to educate himself AND have the will to change. icon_smile.gif Can't reach his goal without both of those catalysts.


    Yeah, you're right, it is my opinion, I just used that last phrase to turn it back on him. Almost regret posting that, but I just get sick of seeing people ask for help on this site and get responses like that.

    That said, I disagree with you as well. Will and discipline and all that, in my own experience, produced temporary weight losses at best, and after the regain, I was fatter than ever, so I really shouldnt have even bothered with the effort.

    Information rooted in good science combined with enough self-knowledge to know how to apply that information to my own lifestyle in a realistic way is the only thing that is making the difference.
  • Poolboy44

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    Jun 19, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    Hey, quick question. I've actually heard that dairy helps you to lose weight. Obviously not if you have the wrong kinds and tons of it since nothing is good in moderation, but I've been told (not on here) that people who include a glass or milk or yogurt in their diets lose more weight than people who don't. What's the ruling on this? Why are people saying to cut out dairy?


    (this is a question based on conflicting information i've gotten not a refute to what anyone has said)
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    Jun 19, 2011 10:06 PM GMT
    Jerebear said
    Gaydar said
    Jerebear said
    track_boi saidipike... as nice as it is to seek out advice etc....

    the information you gain will be nothing compared to your will to change....

    u clearly eat like crap and dont exercise.....

    change and you will be rewarded... if u want it bad enough you will get it... if not, enjoy being fat


    its very simple...

    sorry bout the rudeness but thats the truth


    no its not the truth, its just your opinion

    and you're wrong, his will to change will be nothing compared to the information he gains. If he is ignorant about how to properly regulate his fat tissue than all the will in the world isnt going to help, and the only thing that is "clearly" happening is that you are making all sorts of assumptions about this guy's lifestyle.

    sorry bout the rudeness, but thats the truth


    This is opinion as well.

    Let's just agree that he needs to educate himself AND have the will to change. icon_smile.gif Can't reach his goal without both of those catalysts.


    Yeah, you're right, it is my opinion, I just used that last phrase to turn it back on him. Almost regret posting that, but I just get sick of seeing people ask for help on this site and get responses like that.

    That said, I disagree with you as well. Will and discipline and all that, in my own experience, produced temporary weight losses at best, and after the regain, I was fatter than ever, so I really shouldnt have even bothered with the effort.

    Information rooted in good science combined with enough self-knowledge to know how to apply that information to my own lifestyle in a realistic way is the only thing that is making the difference.


    Which is why you can't reach your goal without both. Don't know why you disagree. I didn't say will alone will reach it for you. I said both would.
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    Jun 19, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
    ipike360 said... Im tired of getting talked about and put down and lonely.
    Getting in shape ain't gonna help ya with that.
    Have you ever noticed how the in-shape/defined guys get talked about? People are always dissing them, as though they're the trash of the earth. Sure it's mainly jealousy, but if you're expecting to be praised and admired for getting in great shape, think again...it only happens rarely.

    PS. Just yesterday I had to walk out of Waffle House because the new cook [who happened to be extremely obese] kept trying to sabotage my "special" meal (deal with manager - only healthy stuff)...the cook kept fucking up my order, presumably on purpose. She got fired after I walked out. icon_cool.gif