CNN's Kyra Phillips Confronts David Tyree Over Comments On Same-Sex Marriage

  • Neurons

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    Jun 20, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    A couple days old, but I really wanted to post it. She's my new favourite news anchor for today. icon_biggrin.gif



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    Jun 20, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    agh, this one-man-one-woman nonsense.... the Old Testament and African ancestors certainly didnt use that as a definition of marriage, polygamy is fine there too, so where does this ordained-by-god argument even come from.... sheesh

    Plus he's prolly just gay anyway
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    Wow that guy, and I have no idea who he is ! really should stop talking out of his arse. He is an African American!!! , I suggest he checks his background before judging people on family values , natural acts and god etc .
  • ohioguy12

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    Jun 20, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    zzzzzzzzzz. He made one catch in the Super Bowl, and has done nothing in the league since, does his opinion actually matter?
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/06/tyreesuperbowl.html#more

    Former NY Giant David Tyree tells the New York Daily News that he would trade his famous catch and his Super Bowl XLII win to stop gays from being allowed to marry:

    "The catch was a gift, it's not like I'd try to do it. I couldn't do it again so that was a miracle," he said. "There's nothing worth more than [maintaining heterosexual marriage] right here for me."

    Asked if he'd give up the Super Bowl to stop gay marriage, Tyree said: "Honestly, I probably would."

    "Nothing means more to me than that my God would be honored," he said. "Being the fact that I firmly believe that God created and ordained marriage between a man and a woman, I believe that that's something that should be fought for at all costs."

    "So I'll lay down everything I am to preserve the honor and integrity of the God that I serve."





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    Jun 20, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    ohioguy12 saidzzzzzzzzzz. He made one catch in the Super Bowl, and has done nothing in the league since, does his opinion actually matter?




    Did the ball hit his head first ????
  • ohioguy12

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    Jun 20, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    Yes it did. It was indeed one of the greatest plays in football history.

    davidtyree_catch.jpg
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    well what he says really doesn't matter, he's waging a losing war. Marriage equality is gaining serious momentum.
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:49 PM GMT
    The sooner you Americans get marriage equality like most Europeans the better !!! Good luck to you!!!
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    Ooh I like her! icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 20, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    Like her also.

    Poor Tyree sounded like such a fool. Once past his mantra, and all he does is stumble on his excuses for bigotry.
  • SoDakGuy

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    Jun 20, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    How many wanna place bets he's gonna get caught w/ a rentboy or caught in a mens room?

    Anyone??
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    Well, I agree with her of course. But, I feel she crossed the line into advocating for a cause. I think journalists and news anchors should focus on being objective to gain information. Questions that explored his beliefs and asked for clarification are the most appropriate, not questions that attack his beliefs. I think she crossed the line because she went too far into using her news career to question his beliefs to promote her own.

    However, I will admit that a savvy journalist/news anchor can do both at the same time without sounding like she's questioning another's beliefs.

    And, I definitely agree that he sounded like a moron.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:05 PM GMT
    Lol! According to him words mean whatever you want them to mean. Don't get bogged down in definitions people! Lol!
  • ohioguy12

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    Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
    ZbmwM5 saidOoh I like her! icon_smile.gif


    I don't mind her, but honestly I thought she was a bit unprofessional. She was clearly for gay marriage, and not unbiased. This was something I'd like to see from someone like Rachel Maddow, but not a news anchor.
  • dhinkansas

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    Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    I don't know. I'm weary of this whole let's throw stones at everyone with a different attitude mentality alive and kicking now. I don't agree with him, but he is allowed to have an opinion.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    David Tyree is unnatural and should be admonished swiftly, especially by other African Americans.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:39 PM GMT
    ohioguy12 said
    ZbmwM5 saidOoh I like her! icon_smile.gif


    I don't mind her, but honestly I thought she was a bit unprofessional. She was clearly for gay marriage, and not unbiased. This was something I'd like to see from someone like Rachel Maddow, but not a news anchor.


    you think so? I just think she was doing what a news anchor would do - stating facts and asking him questions about those facts. She didn't use any of her beliefs as she stated.

    Tyree was just unable to give answers to any of her questions. He said the same thing over and over again. He has no argument, only his stated personal beliefs. Everyone is entitled to that. He is just in a position of celebrity where he can voice that belief louder than most others can.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    Suecer4 saidwell what he says really doesn't matter, he's waging a losing war. Marriage equality is gaining serious momentum.


    YEP! the closer you get to marriage equality in the US, the more vocal the opposition gets. it's a sign of desperation on their part, and we should see it as a positive thing.

    especially when their arguments crash and burn, (like in the clip above) when faced with a little bit of fact and logic.
  • RSportsguy

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    Jun 20, 2011 9:15 PM GMT
    I liked her interview style. She wanted him to clarify the 'catch' phrases that they always throw out. 'Unnatural' and 'Nuclear' family. He could not. I loved the part where she asked him about infertile couples. If their main argument is that men/men or women/women cannot procreate so they should not be allowed to marry, then men or women that are not able to procreate should not be either.
    He has is right to his opinion, but we have the right to ask him to clarify his words that he chooses to throw out.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    k3l3k0 said
    ohioguy12 said
    ZbmwM5 saidOoh I like her! icon_smile.gif


    I don't mind her, but honestly I thought she was a bit unprofessional. She was clearly for gay marriage, and not unbiased. This was something I'd like to see from someone like Rachel Maddow, but not a news anchor.


    you think so? I just think she was doing what a news anchor would do - stating facts and asking him questions about those facts. She didn't use any of her beliefs as she stated.

    Tyree was just unable to give answers to any of her questions. He said the same thing over and over again. He has no argument, only his stated personal beliefs. Everyone is entitled to that. He is just in a position of celebrity where he can voice that belief louder than most others can.


    Phillips could have spent more time seeking clarification and trying to draw out what his argument(s) were instead of assaulting him with a barrage of counterargument some of which didn't appear to directly relate to what it was he was trying to say. People have different communication styles (or in this case, simply can't communicate at all) an effective anchor would help the audience understand what the guest means to say.

    I think if she did that, her counterpoints would've been more targeted and led to a much deeper discussion.



  • Neurons

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    Jun 20, 2011 10:26 PM GMT
    rayray45 saidWow that guy, and I have no idea who he is ! really should stop talking out of his arse. He is an African American!!! , I suggest he checks his background before judging people on family values , natural acts and god etc .


    Uh... what?
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    Jun 20, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    RSportsguy saidI liked her interview style. She wanted him to clarify the 'catch' phrases that they always throw out. 'Unnatural' and 'Nuclear' family. He could not. I loved the part where she asked him about infertile couples. If their main argument is that men/men or women/women cannot procreate so they should not be allowed to marry, then men or women that are not able to procreate should not be either.
    He has is right to his opinion, but we have the right to ask him to clarify his words that he chooses to throw out.


    Old people can't procreate either LOL maybe there should a max. age limit to marriage icon_lol.gif
  • irishkcguy

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    Jun 20, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    ohioguy12 saidzzzzzzzzzz. He made one catch in the Super Bowl, and has done nothing in the league since, does his opinion actually matter?


    Exactly! Though to be fair, it was a hell of a catch.
  • irishkcguy

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    Jun 20, 2011 10:40 PM GMT
    RSportsguy saidI liked her interview style. She wanted him to clarify the 'catch' phrases that they always throw out. 'Unnatural' and 'Nuclear' family. He could not. I loved the part where she asked him about infertile couples. If their main argument is that men/men or women/women cannot procreate so they should not be allowed to marry, then men or women that are not able to procreate should not be either.
    He has is right to his opinion, but we have the right to ask him to clarify his words that he chooses to throw out.



    And what about couples (both straight and gay) who simply don't have a desire to be parents? Does that nullify them?