Major Ordered 20 yr old Palestinian Run Over With an Army Jeep

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    Jun 20, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
    An Israeli Defense Forces (ADF) Major was indicted Sunday because he ordered a soldier to run over a 20 yr Old Palestinian with a Jeep, endangering his life. (this case was from 200icon_cool.gif
    In a second case a Lieutenant and Infantry Commander was indicted on charges of vandalism and malicious intent for torching Palestinian vehicles with his soldiers. (this case was from 2009)

    Who knows how much of this has gone on and and not been even reported, much less taken two to three years to bring the perpetrators up for charges, but at least these two cases show fairness on the IDF part to at least this degree. I wonder if such actions as this have been somewhat pomoted from IDF officials because of such previous orders from its top dogs as the "BROKEN BONES POLICY" where the head of the entire Israel Forces ordered their soldiers to break the bones of even young boy Palestinians who do such things as throw stones at tanks and soldiers involved in pushing over Palestinian Homes.

    Next we will hear that I am a Hatist, a Racist and Anti Semitic as well as wanting to see the destruction of the State of Israel, because I expose the truth of what is going on in the "DEMOCRATIC" Israel, against the Palestinians whose land they continue to OCCUPY and TAKE FOR ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS.

    you can find this article at Ynetnews under the heading of 'Major ordered Palestinian run over'
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    Jun 20, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    No, next you will hear from one who agrees with you....ME.
    I am NOT anti-Semitic, BUT neither am I PRO Israel. I am also very much
    against the U.S. support of Israel.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
    Roll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.
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    Jun 20, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidRoll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.





    NOPE !! I am not a hater, but I sure would like to see these kind of acts exposed and stopped, rather than hidden from view, which promotes unfairness against the Palestinians. Exposure of the truth is already working to pressure Israel to come out with real compromise toward peace, not such things as Saying they want peace while continuing the Settlement building.


    Look at the UN VOTES AGAINST ISRAELS UNFAIRNESS TOWARD THE PALESTINIANS. and those votes against unfairness does not represent hate, it just represents the fact the the world sees through the ZIONIST PROPAGANDA / COVER UPS and that they want to see an end to the unfairness. THAT IS MY POINT !!! NOT HATE FOR ISRAEL !!!
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidRoll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.


    Is that the best you can come up with?? Grow a pair....icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:49 AM GMT
    Any person you give power to is capable of such a crime. America's army aren't all perfect. There are probably things like that going on there that haven't been reported either.
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    EasyEight said
    Webster666 saidRoll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.


    Is that the best you can come up with?? Grow a pair....icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif





    I don't need to grow a pair.
    The people who feel the way I do, proudly in defense of Israel, hold all the cards.
    So, all the Jew haters can cut and past made up stories from the Palestinian propaganda mills as much as they want.
    Israel will be there, forever.
    America will stand with Israel, forever.
    Get used to it.
    BTW, the offer of peace is permanently on the table, not that the Palestinians would ever accept it.
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    Jun 21, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
    Webster666 said
    EasyEight said
    Webster666 saidRoll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.


    Is that the best you can come up with?? Grow a pair....icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif





    I don't need to grow a pair.
    The people who feel the way I do, proudly in defense of Israel, hold all the cards.
    So, all the Jew haters can cut and past made up stories from the Palestinian propaganda mills as much as they want.
    Israel will be there, forever.
    America will stand with Israel, forever.
    Get used to it.
    BTW, the offer of peace is permanently on the table, not that the Palestinians would ever accept it.



    Webster, why do you want to be like this, do you really think that I for instance hate you if your Jewish or want to see Israel destroyed? Which one of us ever said that we want Israel to go away, We know its there to stay and that is fine, just in the process quit taking from your neighbor, what in hell is so hard about Israel ending the ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS on Palestinian Occupied Land?

    Why do you transfer my saying that, to my being a Jew hater, that is wrong, I don't waste energy hating jews. Why do you equate disagreement with hating Jews ?
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    Jun 21, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    real life dad said
    Webster666 saidRoll my eyes.
    You're a Jew hating fanatic.


    NOPE !! I am not a hater, but I sure would like to see these kind of acts exposed and stopped, rather than hidden from view, which promotes unfairness against the Palestinians. Exposure of the truth is already working to pressure Israel to come out with real compromise toward peace, not such things as Saying they want peace while continuing the Settlement building.

    Look at the UN VOTES AGAINST ISRAELS UNFAIRNESS TOWARD THE PALESTINIANS. and those votes against unfairness does not represent hate, it just represents the fact the the world sees through the ZIONIST PROPAGANDA / COVER UPS and that they want to see an end to the unfairness. THAT IS MY POINT !!! NOT HATE FOR ISRAEL !!!


    Let me get this right. You are citing the UN's votes against Israel as proof that Israel is unfair to Palestinians? That's laughable considering that the UN allows nations who have the worst records of abuse against their own people to sit on the UN Human Rights Council, many of the Islamist nations. I would beg to differ with you, those votes do represent hate and not the fact that the word sees through "ZIONIST PROPAGANDA/COVER UPS".

    "NOT HATE FRO ISRAEL" , really? So then why didn't you and the UN shed some light on these facts and events:

    Following the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, in an effort to gain control al-Qaeda leaders unable to convince villagers to support their cause, invited one couple to have lunch with al-Qaeda leaders. The main course served to the couple was the baked remains of one of their children. The incident was first reported by Michael Yon in 2007. It was not the only meal of it's kind served Islamist extremists.

    During it's eight-year-war (1980-198icon_cool.gif with Iraq, Iran experienced high casualties in trying to penetrate Iraqi positions defended by minefields. Valuing trained fighters more than children, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini asked for child "volunteers" to march into the minefields to clear a path for the Iranian soldiers to follow. Khomeini gave each of the children a plastic key before sending them into the minefields, telling them it would open the gates of paradise once they ascended to heaven. The brainwashed children ran naively through the minefields oblivious to the bodies ripped apart as the mines detonated.

    Thousands of Iranian children died in this way, manipulated by the Islamist religious leaders and zealots they trusted. Among the Islamist zealots cheering the children to their deaths was the current Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    Last month, Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb, 13 years old , marched with his family in a nonviolent anti-government rally in Daraa, Syria. Authorities detained him along with hundreds of involved in the protests against President Assad. After weeks the boys body was returned to his family , barely recognizable. The body showed evidence of extensive torture--bruises, burns to the feet, elbows, face and knees as well as the removal of his genitals. The wounds are said to be consistent with electric shock devices. The boys eyes were black and swollen and both arms showed bullet wounds. The family was advised not to speak out about the incident.

    In Hamas-controlled Gaza, children are bombarded daily with messages of hate for Jews and calls for suicide bombings. They are shown cartoons and messages glorifying suicide bombers. Their schools openly teach hatred of Jews. One of the things they aren't thought is that, so far not one of the children of their Islamic religious leaders has yet to take on the glorified role of suicide bomber.

    In March 2004, 16 year old Husam Muhammad Bilal Abdul, approached the Hawara checkpoint south of the city. Israeli soldiers noticed something suspicious about the boy. The boy became startled when the soldiers directed their weapons at him. When ordered to raise his shirt the boy was found to be wearing a suicide vest containing 18 lbs of explosives. The boy, with the mental capacity of a 12 year old was recruited by Farah's military wing of A-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades , who took responsibility for sending the boy. The boy and his parents revealed that the boy had no friends and was picked on in school. I wonder , would the peace loving Palestinians who preyed on this mental and emotionally handicapped child have spared the life of a Jewish boy in a similar situation?

    On march 16 2004, at a check point near the city of Nablus, an Israeli soldier discovered a 13 lb explosive with a cell phone attached to it after the phone went off in a 12 tear of Palestinian boys bag. The boy didn't know he was carrying explosives, but was told that he was taking auto parts to a woman who was waiting on the other side of the checkpoint. Abdullah Quran was released to his parents after it it became known that he had no idea of what was in the bag. Again, I have to wonder would the Palestinians have released a Jewish boy in a similar situation.

    March 29 2002, Ayat al Akhras, a Palestinian teenager detonated the explosives strapped to her waist in a supermarket in Jerusalem killing herself, a 17 year old Israeli girl and a security guard.

    November 1 2004, 16 year old Aamer Alfar blew himself up int the Carmel Market in Tel Aviv, killing 3 Israelis. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the bombing. Afar's mother and father condemned the exploitation of their son by those who had recruited him without the knowledge of his parents.

    Those are just a few of many children exploited by their zealot handlers. I don't seem to see you pointing those out and condemning them. You only seem to be able to point out Israeli shortfalls. Go ahead, I would like to see how you can justify adults sending innocent children to their deaths. I didn't even mention the scores of times that Palestinian women and children were used as human shields by the cowards that justify sending their own children into harms way.

    I think the late Golda Meir said it best : Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.

    I wonder, have you ever been to the Middle East? To Israel? Were you ever stationed in the Middle East?
    Occupied? By your own logic, you then should give up your home and move back to where your family came from, after all your home is on occupied land in the eyes of some Native Americans. Should we give up the Gadsden Purchase? What about Texas? California? Washington, Oregon? Utah? Nevada? Colorado? Idaho? Where does it stop?

    One only has to look at your hateful posts to see that you are a hate filled little Anti-Semite !



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    Jun 21, 2011 6:33 AM GMT
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    Jun 21, 2011 8:11 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]sxydrkhair said[/cite]shybuffguy, I could call you an anti-Semitic for being a Palestinian hater. Zionists supporters are found in many different ethnicities and many different religions. Some of them are not Semites. There is no reason to be mad when someone post this article against Israeli major. This is not the one time thing. There are many similar stories like this all the time (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011) in Palestine. Of course you don't hear that in the U.S. media.

    real life dad is not a Jew hater. Reason why you call him anti-Semitic because you don't like the ugly truth! Do you agree it is wrong that Israeli major ordered Palestinian run over with Israeli army Jeep?

    Have you ever ask yourself why so many Israeli soldiers committed suicide after what they done to the Palestinians?

    I don't agree with your post about Hamas... If Hamas want to kill all Jews on earth, then explain to me why anti-Zionist Jews meet with Hamas? They still do believe that Jews have the right to live in the land. Hamas knows this...and yet they still meet with them.
    - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8155350.stm

    "There will be no peace until they learn to love their children more than they hate us."
    --Golda Meir

    Psychological Study of the Mentality of Jewish Children

    A letter from a Jewish child to a Palestinian child, said, “I hope you and your family will burn in hell.”
    - http://www.bearpit.net/lofiversion/index.php/t4757.html

    I hope you learn something here shybuffguy.[/q

    Obviously the Israelis thought it was wrong in both instances mentioned, hence the reason for indictments. End of story. My question to both of you is, why don't either of you post anything about the atrocities Palestinians commit against each other let alone against Jews? Or is it only Jews who commit sins against Palestinians?

    You completely missed what I said. I never directly said anything about Hamas killing Jews. What I brought up was how Palestinians used their own children as if their lives meant nothing , as if they were so much garbage because of their blind hatred of Jews and Israel!
    Justify for me why anyone would want to shed the blood of innocent children because of their blind hatred. More importantly, how any civilized person can think that is ok. Please tell me how you justify that "ugly truth".

    The truth that you and people like you don't want to acknowledge is that Israel acknowledges the right of Palestinians to their own state and self government. Do Palestinians acknowledge that Jews have the same right?

    When my older sister married a Palestinian, I learned plenty about what they thought about women , Americans and Jews. When I was stationed in the Middle East I learned that the same people who spat on me and called me a baby killer think nothing about strapping a bomb on their children, mentally ill or mentally handicapped children and adults and sending them off to be sacrificed on the alter of their hate! . I imagine on my next trip to Israel, I will learn even more.

    I'm sure you're right about Hamas, since these childrens shows they sponsored are teaching only love and respect of Jews and Americans. I'm sure you're right, only Jewish children hate Palestinian children and there are no Palestinian children who hate Jewish children.









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    Jun 21, 2011 11:29 AM GMT
    sxtdrkhair: The guy in question is anti-Jew. I think you give him a pass because he takes positions regarding Palestinians and against Israeli policies that you support and incessantly criticizes C4. You can justify him not being anti Jew because he criticizes policies, but I will tell you this - he on occasion writes "Jews think this way.....". I only see such expressions and others from clear bigots. In fact I think that drives his total obsession with this topic. I don't find many bigots at all but he is clearly one. I would say other things to tell you what I really think of him, but prefer to keep it clean.
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    Jun 21, 2011 4:56 PM GMT

    "There will be no peace until they learn to love their children more than they hate us."
    --Golda Meir




    That's.... pretty disturbing...
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    Jun 21, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    Oh look what I've been missing, I see Webster666, SoCal and Shybuffguy are convinced that I hate jews I am a bigot and apparently some of the proof is over calling out the ever and always OBNOXIOUS ZIONIST APOLOGIST LIL'AIPAC (C4), for such things as his statements that "PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED", "PALESTINIANS HAVE NO LAND RIGHTS UNTIL GIVEN THEM UNDER PEACE NEGOTIATIONS, SO THEREFORE THE SETTLEMENTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL NOR A BLOCK TO PEACE", "THE GAZANS WERE NOT HUNGRY ENOUGH TO WARRANT AN AID FLOTILLA UNDER LAWS OF WAR" (that last one took a hell of a lot of SHITZPAH for him to say)

    So now calling out despicable statements such as above is hating on jews?

    I would like for just one of you to copy some statement I've made saying I hate jews, that I want to see Israel destroyed, even one statement that I hate LIL'AIPAC (C4), sorry but when I called him a GOD DAMNED OBNOXIOUS ZIONIST PAIN IN THE ASS for the above statement about the Gazans not being hungry enough for aid, that does not represent hate, that represents a good sound common sense reaction to such an arrogant belittling statement. Sometimes a fella just has to own what he writes and take the natural results. Maybe the Dumb Fuck that made that statement should try his luck at saying it on a GAZAN Street. See what the natural result of his words would bring him there.

    Now that we have that settled, Please also tell us how its Anti Semite for this young Jewish man to come out against the ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS on OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, further how is it anti Semitic for us to point this out as an example that even many Jews are against those GOD DAMNED ZIONIST SETTLEMENTS.


    I'll say it again !!!

    If I am stealing something from you, then claim that I want to make peace with you, then common sense tells most of us that I would have to give back what I took or make restitution. No judge or any other authority would believe that I was in earnest about making peace if while saying I wanted peace I was still taking from my victim. SO TELL ME AGAIN HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT THOSE 2000 ADDITIONAL SETTLEMENT UNITS NETANYAHU APPROVED TO BE BUILT ON OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY ? THIS IS THE POINT THE BOY ON THE OTHER TOPIC WAS PROTESTING !!! Might as well make it here again, because the all pervading unfairness coming from Israel in both topics is after all the whole point, whether its coming from Soldiers unfairness toward the Palestinians or over the settlements.
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    socalfitness saidsxtdrkhair: The guy in question is anti-Jew. I think you give him a pass because he takes positions regarding Palestinians and against Israeli policies that you support and incessantly criticizes C4. You can justify him not being anti Jew because he criticizes policies, but I will tell you this - he on occasion writes "Jews think this way.....". I only see such expressions and others from clear bigots. In fact I think that drives his total obsession with this topic. I don't find many bigots at all but he is clearly one. I would say other things to tell you what I really think of him, but prefer to keep it clean.

    Anyone that criticizes Israel or Zionist doesn't make him anti-Jew.

    I understand and agree completely, but I base my assessment on reading between the lines, especially how he writes things like "Jews think this way....". Yes it is not overt, but given his obsession with the topic, the volumes that he writes, and those kinds of phrases, it is very clear to me what he is.
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    Jun 22, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidWebster, Shybuffguy, and yourself are only three in here mention about Jews. Realifedad was only talking about soldier that run over a Palestinian boy and Zionist settlers.

    Zionists (can be found in many different religions and ethnicities) and Jews aren't the same.

    He talks about Jews in many threads. I'm not one who sees bigotry under every rock, but I've been around a while, and there are certain things about which I am sure, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind in his case.