SHOULD CHURCHES BE TAX EXEMPT?

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    Jun 20, 2011 7:15 PM GMT


    "Because it costs you and me billions. We are not talking chump change here. Consider that for every tax dollar a religious organization does not pay, you and I pay it on its behalf. Many are among the wealthiest organizations in the world: by 1971, the amount of real and personal property owned by U.S. churches was approx. $110 billion. In New York City alone, the amount was $3 billion in 1989. A 1986 estimate showed religious income in that year of approx. $100 billion, or about five times the income of the five largest corporations in the U.S. All tax free."

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    Jun 20, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    No, they should not. They operate everything exactly like any other business. They should be required to pay taxes just like any other business.
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    Jun 20, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
    Oh, stop picking on churches.

    Go Google "tax exempt organizations in {insert your city/county/state}" or go to www.TaxExemptWorld.com and then look at how many governmental, hospital, colleges and other organizations have millions of dollars of tax exempt land/buildings/etc.
    Then get back to me about the churches.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    I think it depends on whether or not they're engaged in political work. If they are, like all nonprofits, they are engaged solely in their mission, that should keep their exempt status. If they are engaging in politicking (e.g. Mormons on Prop icon_cool.gif, then no.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    Tax 'em till the pips squeak. Then tax the squeak too.
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    Jun 20, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Oh, stop picking on churches.

    Go Google "tax exempt organizations in {insert your city/county/state}" or go to www.TaxExemptWorld.com and then look at how many governmental, hospital, colleges and other organizations have millions of dollars of tax exempt land/buildings/etc.
    Then get back to me about the churches.
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  • CalebKM

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    Jun 20, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    No, pay up!
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:01 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Oh, stop picking on churches.

    Go Google "tax exempt organizations in {insert your city/county/state}" or go to www.TaxExemptWorld.com and then look at how many governmental, hospital, colleges and other organizations have millions of dollars of tax exempt land/buildings/etc.
    Then get back to me about the churches.
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    Go Google "homophobic, hate-mongering bigots" and you probably won't get any hospitals or colleges listed.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    Mil8 said
    StudlyScrewRite said Oh, stop picking on churches.

    Go Google "tax exempt organizations in {insert your city/county/state}" or go to www.TaxExemptWorld.com and then look at how many governmental, hospital, colleges and other organizations have millions of dollars of tax exempt land/buildings/etc.
    Then get back to me about the churches.
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    Go Google "homophobic, hate-mongering bigots" and you probably won't get any hospitals or colleges listed.




    LOL
    Yup.
    Plus hospitals and colleges don't engage in partisan politicking.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    They absolutely should be taxed.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidI think it depends on whether or not they're engaged in political work. If they are, like all nonprofits, they are engaged solely in their mission, that should keep their exempt status. If they are engaging in politicking (e.g. Mormons on Prop icon_cool.gif, then no.


    This.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    They should be taxed just like everyone else. Amazing, the breaks these people get based on wild allegations and goofy stories made up by non-entitites from thousands of years ago.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:33 PM GMT
    Can't tell if the Church of the FSM is tax-exempt...
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  • Vaughn

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    Jun 20, 2011 9:35 PM GMT
    Only if they provide community service such as soup kitchens or shelters. Protesting funerals does not count.
  • Webster666

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    Jun 20, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    Of course not.
    Churches are a business.
    They exercise their hate mongering political agenda (which is against the law).
    Tax their asses.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
    No. I'm sick of the preferential treatment received by folks who believe in fairy tales.
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidCan't tell if the Church of the FSM is tax-exempt...
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    Jun 20, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    They should pay.

    Churches being tax exempt is unfair. It also opens the door to many shady organizations being able to launder, hide, and write-off expenses and money.

    Tax the bastards.
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    Jun 20, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
    Churches and other non-profits that perform a service, like hospitals and schools should pay no tax on their structure and land. Any other assets, such as property, business income, rental propert shoulod be taxed.
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    Jun 20, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
    No, unless they engage directly in political activism, or use their funds to buy votes.
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    Jun 20, 2011 10:08 PM GMT
    n8698u said
    Christian73 saidI think it depends on whether or not they're engaged in political work. If they are, like all nonprofits, they are engaged solely in their mission, that should keep their exempt status. If they are engaging in politicking (e.g. Mormons on Prop icon_cool.gif, then no.


    This.


    +1. Churches are extremely political here as well and wield considerable influence over political decisions from amending our Marriage Act along the lines of the US Defence of Marriage Act to having any primarily shows exclude gay characters as they aren't 'family friendly'. They were given considerable property in years gone by - and have no quarks in hocking it to the highest bidder!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 20, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    Churches should only be heavily taxed if they are supporting political campaigns and influencing elections.
  • tazzari

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    Jun 20, 2011 11:22 PM GMT
    catfish5 said

    "Because it costs you and me billions. We are not talking chump change here. Consider that for every tax dollar a religious organization does not pay, you and I pay it on its behalf. Many are among the wealthiest organizations in the world: by 1971, the amount of real and personal property owned by U.S. churches was approx. $110 billion. In New York City alone, the amount was $3 billion in 1989. A 1986 estimate showed religious income in that year of approx. $100 billion, or about five times the income of the five largest corporations in the U.S. All tax free."

    http://taxthechurches.org/


    This is somewhat misleading. The $110 billion figure may be accurate, but remember that that is all churches combined. If you look at the financial state of any one individual church, you will see something quite different.

    My church feeds over 3,000 people per week, operates a thrift shop at no profit, offers counseling, hand out various coupons, offer office space to at least one charitable organization, etc. And we do it at a pretty steady loss, so fund-raising is a very big thing for us, just to keep the place warm and the staff paid and the roof from leaking. We do a lot o good, and it's a constant struggle to keep the place open.

    BTW, we're an Open and Affirming Episcopal congregation.

    I am not saying that churches should not pay taxes; but the information above is misleadingly presented.
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    Jun 20, 2011 11:26 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidOf course not.
    Churches are a business.
    They exercise their hate mongering political agenda (which is against the law).
    Tax their asses.


    You seem to be painting all churches with the same brush (see my post, above)....
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    Jun 20, 2011 11:30 PM GMT
    HELL
    FUCKIN
    NO!

    Hehe, hell!