Does homophobia ultimately win?

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    Jun 21, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
    I think it does...I really do. I think if you're a homophobe life will be good to you. This, however, is based on my experience.

    I need some enlightenment, though. Have you ever been a victim of homophobia, or known a homophobe who had it coming and got it? Or, are you like me, and the homophobes always seem to win...

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    Jun 21, 2011 2:39 AM GMT
    Goodness,
    Look at all the strides we've made in just the last couple of decades.
    Did you ever think we'd see gay marriage in our lifetimes ?
    Did you ever think that gay people would be able to serve openly in the military ?
    We have a lesbian on the United States Supreme Court, for heaven's sake.

    Homophobia is losing at every turn.
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:48 AM GMT
    What about personal experiences? Did homophobia beat you?

    Or, did you beat homophobia? I need some uplift. But, from my experience, homophobia won every time.
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
    homophobia doesn't win, cause seriously homophobic people never get to have the gay sex they want and instead develop a drinking problem.
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    Jun 21, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    gymrat100 saidWhat about personal experiences? Did homophobia beat you?
    Or, did you beat homophobia? I need some uplift. But, from my experience, homophobia won every time.


    What are you??? Twelve years old?? Grow up and be a man...even if you HAVE to be a gay man.... while you're at it, put something in your profile so we can get some idea of who we are addressing.... icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 21, 2011 3:20 AM GMT
    rosco87 saidhomophobia doesn't win, cause seriously homophobic people never get to have the gay sex they want and instead develop a drinking problem.


    That makes sense. I'm starting to feel better.
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    Jun 21, 2011 3:23 AM GMT
    theantijock saidUntil Nirvana--and who has the patience for that--probably there will always be those who hate, but as consciousness evolves, their number & power continue to decrease because...

    "There exists an obvious fact that seems utterly moral; namely, that a man is always a prey to his truths. Once he has admitted them, he cannot free himself from them.~~Albert Camus

    Study our history gymrat, and feel proud about how far we have come.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_social_movements


    Thank you. Great quote.

    For those that have experienced it, did it make you stronger? Did it make you bitter? Did it make you both?
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    Jun 21, 2011 3:47 AM GMT

    Cry me a river; you don't have to wear your sexual orientation all over your body. You aren't rainbow colored. Some gay men do as they are very feminine or just plain GAY, whatever classifies that, but I don't think your sn would be Gymrat if you were a screamer. How do you even know who the homophobes are? Do they directly identify themselves or do you solve that problem, by assuming?

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    Jun 21, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Cry me a river; you don't have to wear your sexual orientation all over your body. You aren't rainbow colored. Some gay men do as they are very feminine or just plain GAY, whatever classifies that, but I don't think your sn would be Gymrat if you were a screamer. How do you even know who the homophobes are? Do they directly identify themselves or do you solve that problem, by assuming?

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    Their actions. Their words. And, nothing wrong with being feminine or just plain gay.
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    Jun 21, 2011 4:07 AM GMT
    No. Homophobes don't and will not win. They'll have small victories, but they're outnumbered and where they aren't, it's changing.
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    Jun 21, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    NEWSFLASH

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    It's not 1950 anymore. I haven't been confronted with homophobia since I was in high school, and even then it was only the retarded middle eastern immigrants who thought that it was illegal to be gay who ever said anything to me.
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    gymrat100 saidI think it does...I really do. I think if you're a homophobe life will be good to you. This, however, is based on my experience.

    I need some enlightenment, though. Have you ever been a victim of homophobia, or known a homophobe who had it coming and got it? Or, are you like me, and the homophobes always seem to win...

    Homophobia is the fear of your own attraction to the same gender.
    The only way for homophobia to win is to come out of the closet and stop being such a douche.
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
    Homophobia is a way over used word. Anyone who may not support the gay agenda 100%, Or even support the concept of gay marriage wrongly get labeled as being homophobic by the insecure, or bullies.

    I myself as an Aussie poofter do not see myself as a victom, albeit newcomers to Oz, and people only 1,2,3 generations born to Oz get more rights than I do.
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:03 PM GMT
    If we want rights we have to live like we already have them.

    Homophobia will always exist, in overt and covert forms. The worst thing we can do is allow it to shape the way we think. We have to go beyond petty homophobia and secure our rights. We can't do that living fear of what others think.

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    Jun 21, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
    Homophobia is a rather silly word, tbh. People may be wary of gay men and women in general because of the actions of some gay men and women or by hearing about (both true and false) actions by some gay men and women. Acting decent and showing you're not threat to them dissuades that rather quickly.

    Those who are prejudiced against gay people for no reason and engage in unwarranted violence and/or hatred towards us should be called their proper term: bigots.
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:13 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidGoodness,
    Look at all the strides we've made in just the last couple of decades.
    Did you ever think we'd see gay marriage in our lifetimes ?
    Did you ever think that gay people would be able to serve openly in the military ?
    We have a lesbian on the United States Supreme Court, for heaven's sake.

    Homophobia is losing at every turn.


    AGREED!!! 100%

    The only homophobes that win (if you can call it that) are the ones who freakout and beat up a guy for making an unwanted advance at him and never get caught. They will get what's coming to them though, what goes around does come back around, he'll have to pay his dues, the universe will see to that.
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    Jun 21, 2011 11:19 PM GMT
    gymrat100 said
    GuiltyGear said
    Cry me a river; you don't have to wear your sexual orientation all over your body. You aren't rainbow colored. Some gay men do as they are very feminine or just plain GAY, whatever classifies that, but I don't think your sn would be Gymrat if you were a screamer. How do you even know who the homophobes are? Do they directly identify themselves or do you solve that problem, by assuming?

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    Their actions. Their words. And, nothing wrong with being feminine or just plain gay.


    Yeah, and you're saying this to a BLACK MAN. I'd hate to ever say it, but man up. As I said and thought you'd get my drift, you aren't wearing it. If you let their actions, their words, win, then they win. But to be quite frank, no one is doing anything to you are they? When was the last time you were gay bashed or rejected service based on your outward gay appearance that you don't have? You say their actions...words, yeah, the ones you are making up for them. Why don't you try being an ex con today and do your time, but still can't get a job at Mc Donald's. Why don't you try being a thirteen year old white girl today and watch on 48 Hours that there are sick freaks wanting to sell you into white slavery. Why don't you try being a six year old who's daddy is reaaalll good at being sneaky and it could be six more years of hell before he slips up. Why don't you try being a woman who does the same job a man does, but gets paid less. Why don't you try being an extremely effeminate homosexual who lives any place. Get active, protest, be a supporter of change, but don't fake the banner of victim and complain. The victims aren't even complaining; they win by living the best they can and affecting change how they can, which ain't through tears. Anyone who's ever had to really fight will tell you that. So if your idea of Homophobia is straight guys not boning you or Nolan's plans not to put Dick Grayson into ANY of the Dark Knight movies (bummer), than sit the FU down and shut the front door. *hair flip*

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    Jun 21, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Cry me a river; you don't have to wear your sexual orientation all over your body. You aren't rainbow colored. Some gay men do as they are very feminine or just plain GAY, whatever classifies that, but I don't think your sn would be Gymrat if you were a screamer. How do you even know who the homophobes are? Do they directly identify themselves or do you solve that problem, by assuming?

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    Assertions play a big roll, and yes we can feel pride without looking like a rainbow, and allowing others freedom of speech.