Are frequent accusations of Anti Israel/Anti Semite a self fulfilling act by Israeli's/AIPAC ?

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    Jun 21, 2011 3:21 PM GMT
    These accusations follow any act of truth telling, such as exposing that Israels raid on last years Aid Flotilla was not in self defense, but rather hostilities were started by the Israeli forces dropping down armed to the teeth on the boats and their unarmed aid workers in international water.
    Our own LIL'AIPAC (C4) made this accusation on this subject and daily does on many other subjects where many are attempting to expose the truth. In fact his statement on this subject of the aid flotilla was "THE GAZANS WERE NOT HUNGRY ENOUGH TO WARRANT AN AID FLOTILLA UNDER THE LAWS OF WAR", when we disputed the ,"CHUTZPAH" behind such a statement, we were accused multiple times of being Anti Israel, and that our basis for exposing this arose from hate for Jews.
    Such accusations fly in the face of the truth and I believe exacerbate the problem, not relieve it. DISCUSS !!!
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    Jun 21, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    Israel isn't Black, it isn't Hispanic, it isn't even Jewish, it's a nation that has horrid policies that resemble apartheid and the Nazi's.
    Therefore, it is entirely appropriate to criticize the nation of Israel for its acts.
    No matter how much Jews whine about it being "anti-Semitism"icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 22, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
    Here on RJ, the Anti Semite accusation from LIL'AIPAC (C4) and a few others, is used every time any information of wrongs committed by Israel against the Palestinians is shared. This is very much like the efforts of AIPAC in the USA to block such news from the American Media.

    I will be sharing some of the most obvious efforts of AIPAC to hide or change the facts, that keep the American Public in the dark.

    and no !!! exposing the truth is not anti Semite, Since its a common goal to know the truth about any group, why do we have a special name for it when we tell the truth about Israel ? Are we to accept that certain groups are entitled to privileges of hiding truth so they can be kept in a 'good standing' with the world, while this embargo on truth doesn't apply to the other side ? I think not
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    Jun 24, 2011 3:19 PM GMT
    According to MJ Rosenburg A Jewish writer for a major New York Paper and a senior fellow for Media Matters in an Article titled "HECKUVA JOB, AIPAC" on Huffington Post, AIPAC exists for the following reason:


    "AIPAC supposedly exists to promote UN-Israel relations, or, more precisely, to promote them to the point where Israeli policies are never challegned by the United States. Most important to AIPAC is that the $3 billion aid package sails to Israel unimpeded, no matter what budgets cuts are inflicted here at home and no matter what the current president thinks".

    Unfortunately AIPAC in the above efforts frequently uses its members and propaganda machine to attack as anti semitic, any media person, congressman or educator who attempts to shed light on the unfairness of Israel toward the Palestinians. I'll be sharing some stories of AIPAC's efforts down this line to discredit any truth tellers.
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    Jun 25, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
    here's an article from the National Journal, for the sake of truth and knowledge. http;//globalfire.tv/nj/05en/jews/findley.htm

    Ex-congressman Paul Findley, wrote an article titled, THEY DARE TO SPEAK OUT

    Some quotes,

    "I naively assumed I could question our policy anywhere without getting into trouble, I did not realize how deeply the roots of Israeli interests had penetrated US interests."

    "Congress is 'terrorized' by AIPAC"

    "In practice, the lobby groups function as an informal extension of the Israeli government."
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    Jun 25, 2011 3:09 PM GMT
    Would you care to explain why you are so focused on this topic? Do you have roots in the area as do others who post? You seem to be totally obsessed with this general topic and obviously spend much of your time writing about it.
  • Lincsbear

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    Jun 25, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    Hi there,
    I am struck by the frequent use of the accusation of being anti- Semitic/anti- Israel/wanting to destroy Israel when anyone criticizes the country,especially in it`s foreign policy.I can see how many people would feel,given history,but Israel as a democracy should be culturally strong enough to take this criticism and answer it,not fall back on politically correct claims of anti-Semitic,etc.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 25, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
    The truth of the matter is that Israel is a war mongering pariah state whose grand plan is to violently push the Palestinian people off their homeland.
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    Jun 26, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidWould you care to explain why you are so focused on this topic? Do you have roots in the area as do others who post? You seem to be totally obsessed with this general topic and obviously spend much of your time writing about it.


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    I have friends who lost land in Palestine and friends who lost land in Lebanon to Israel's land grabbing tactics. So of course the subject is of interest to me for their sakes after hearing first hand experiences at the hands of the Israeli's very unfair tactics.

    Also our blind acceptance of whatever Israel does, basic tacit approval, is very much behind the blowback the US gets returned for going along with very unfair practices against Israels neighbors, particularly from its actions against the palestinians.

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    Jun 26, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    socalfitness saidWould you care to explain why you are so focused on this topic? Do you have roots in the area as do others who post? You seem to be totally obsessed with this general topic and obviously spend much of your time writing about it.
    I have friends who lost land in Palestine and friends who lost land in Lebanon to Israel's land grabbing tactics. So of course the subject is of interest to me for their sakes after hearing first hand experiences at the hands of the Israeli's very unfair tactics....

    Just curious, would those friends be guys on RJ whose favor you are currying?
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    Jun 26, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    realifedad said
    socalfitness saidWould you care to explain why you are so focused on this topic? Do you have roots in the area as do others who post? You seem to be totally obsessed with this general topic and obviously spend much of your time writing about it.
    I have friends who lost land in Palestine and friends who lost land in Lebanon to Israel's land grabbing tactics. So of course the subject is of interest to me for their sakes after hearing first hand experiences at the hands of the Israeli's very unfair tactics....

    Just curious, would those friends be guys on RJ whose favor you are currying?


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    No they are not, these experiences of RJ members just add to what I had already learned about the real truth behind the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

    My family has had lifelong friends from the area and we know first hand what its like, and most Americans only hear one sided stories in large part because of the efforts at slanting, ignoring or outright lying about the truth from the likes of AIPAC and ZIONIST PROPAGANDA. Then to make matters worse, if any official attempts to tell the true full story that Israel is in actuality the true aggressor, then he/she is immediately and loudly proclaimed an Anti Jew/Anti Semite

    You should join us in telling the truth about Israel to help members see the full story of why there is no peace yet, there is much to tell because much has been hidden.