Study: How much does income matter to you?

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    Jun 22, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    An interesting study on hetero couples - though I wonder how this works for gay men -

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/do-women-really-value-income-over-looks-in-a

    Researchers... find that for men there is no amount of income that the woman in the bottom ten percent in terms of appearance can earn to make men prefer her over women in the top 10 percent. That is, looks really matter to men relative to income. For women though, if the man in the bottom ten percent in terms of looks earns more than $248,500, they will prefer him over the more attractive guy earning $60,000. My students often interpret this result as saying that women really care about money, but that is not what it says at all—$186,000 is a huge difference in income. If women didn’t care about looks and only cared about money, the figure would be much, much lower. This says that despite the impression that on the marriage market women really care about income, the evidence suggest that they also care about looks. They just care about income too.
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    Jun 22, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    Maybe I'm an idiot, or maybe I need to read the entire article, but what does "in the bottom ten percent of appearance/looks" mean?
  • Vaughn

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    Jun 22, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    ohioguy12 saidMaybe I'm an idiot, or maybe I need to read the entire article, but what does "in the bottom ten percent of appearance/looks" mean?


    This data is nothing new. Attractiveness is measured in facial features by symmetry, and an averaging of features as well as shape face. People prefer unusual hair/eye combination. Body parts involved a distinct shape for men where the waist was smaller than both the upper body and the hips. Exaggerated body features such as breasts are usually preferred. That is called sexual selection. Dominate partners prefer a partner who is smaller than they are. This is called Sexual Dimorphism (In HS not Biology, although that does still hold true). People also rate themselves as more attractive when in a room with pictures of attractive people than in a room without those pictures.
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    Jun 22, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    Vaughn said
    ohioguy12 saidMaybe I'm an idiot, or maybe I need to read the entire article, but what does "in the bottom ten percent of appearance/looks" mean?


    This data is nothing new. Attractiveness is measured in facial features by symmetry, and an averaging of features as well as shape face. People prefer unusual hair/eye combination. Body parts involved a distinct shape for men where the waist was smaller than both the upper body and the hips. Exaggerated body features such as breasts are usually preferred. That is called sexual selection. Dominate partners prefer a partner who is smaller than they are. This is called Sexual Dimorphism (In HS not Biology, although that does still hold true). People also rate themselves as more attractive when in a room with pictures of attractive people than in a room without those pictures.


    What's interesting about the study is that while women seem to be willing to make the trade off between physical attractiveness and income, hetero men are not... but I wonder how this works for gay men.
  • Vaughn

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    Jun 22, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    I believe there are studies about this in the homosexual population. There is a study by John Money (Early Theorist in Gender Identity) you may be interested in. Why that may be important is because Woman are thought to be more tactile than men.
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    Jun 22, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    Vaughn said
    ohioguy12 saidMaybe I'm an idiot, or maybe I need to read the entire article, but what does "in the bottom ten percent of appearance/looks" mean?


    This data is nothing new. Attractiveness is measured in facial features by symmetry, and an averaging of features as well as shape face. People prefer unusual hair/eye combination. Body parts involved a distinct shape for men where the waist was smaller than both the upper body and the hips. Exaggerated body features such as breasts are usually preferred. That is called sexual selection. Dominate partners prefer a partner who is smaller than they are. This is called Sexual Dimorphism (In HS not Biology, although that does still hold true). People also rate themselves as more attractive when in a room with pictures of attractive people than in a room without those pictures.


    What's interesting about the study is that while women seem to be willing to make the trade off between physical attractiveness and income, hetero men are not... but I wonder how this works for gay men.


    I think it is worst for gay men. Most of the studies done seem to show that looks are one of the only factors in deciding a mate for male/male relationships. Hence why so many gay men are obsessed with the gym.
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    Jun 22, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    riddler78 said
    Vaughn said
    ohioguy12 saidMaybe I'm an idiot, or maybe I need to read the entire article, but what does "in the bottom ten percent of appearance/looks" mean?


    This data is nothing new. Attractiveness is measured in facial features by symmetry, and an averaging of features as well as shape face. People prefer unusual hair/eye combination. Body parts involved a distinct shape for men where the waist was smaller than both the upper body and the hips. Exaggerated body features such as breasts are usually preferred. That is called sexual selection. Dominate partners prefer a partner who is smaller than they are. This is called Sexual Dimorphism (In HS not Biology, although that does still hold true). People also rate themselves as more attractive when in a room with pictures of attractive people than in a room without those pictures.


    What's interesting about the study is that while women seem to be willing to make the trade off between physical attractiveness and income, hetero men are not... but I wonder how this works for gay men.


    I think it is worst for gay men. Most of the studies done seem to show that looks are one of the only factors in deciding a mate for male/male relationships. Hence why so many gay men are obsessed with the gym.


    That is not as true as you may think it is. Gay men tend to not let themselves go. This is thought to be because gays tend to be communal. When most people you know are a potential partner or a potential partner for your partner you need to keep that sex life sexy. The basic principal of competition. When your wife hangs out with female friends and the husband (you) hangs out with mainly male friend, assuming you are both breeders... You have a difference in competition.
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    Jun 22, 2011 7:01 PM GMT
    Looks wins over income every time with me.
    Money doesn't get my dick hard.
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    Jun 22, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    money only matters if they have too little and need to poach off you or so much that it rules their life and you can't enjoy life

    otherwise, it's just fiat currency....