How many people got to where they are without an extremely strict diet?

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    Jun 23, 2011 6:56 AM GMT
    With summer back in session, I've been trying to get back on a strict workout routine, but I've never been able to hold a diet like a lot of the members I've seen on here. Although I eat very healthy while at home, I do indulge by dining out with friends and family about 4 or 5 times a week. I've never given the time of day to count the amount of cups of nuts or vegetables I eat or weigh out my meats... ( icon_surprised.gif )... and I doubt I ever will. I try to convince myself that I'm in fair shape, but I constantly want to look better and gain more weight, which in result shoots a bit of my confidence.

    With that said, how many members have gotten to their studly level without being a damn nazi on their eating? I'm not saying you eat unhealthy ALL the time, but you do indulge a bit frequently along with routine workouts.

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    Jun 23, 2011 1:20 PM GMT
    I am always confused as to why people wait until summer before starting to head to the gym and getting into shape. I mean, wouldn't it be a better idea to start in the spring or winter so that once summer comes along you'll be ready for it? If you start now wouldn't it be winter by the time you are done?

    i dont get it.
  • DiverScience

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    Jun 23, 2011 1:21 PM GMT
    At my "studliest" I was careful, but certainly no dictator. I worked out 5-6 times a week, ate rationally most of the week. one night and one day a week I didn't think much about what I ate, though I tried to limit portions to the rational. Seemed to work for me.

    I find lacking a schedule to be a much greater limit to my ability to stay in shape.
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    Jun 23, 2011 1:26 PM GMT
    I've never been on a strict diet in my life. I'm all about balance. Eat your food groups. Meat, veggies, CARBS, dairy, etc. Don't overeat. If you do, balance that out with some extra exercise. Rest appropriately.

    I always consider that extreme actions can result in extreme reactions.
  • rnch

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    Jun 23, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    UC, judging by ur pics here and your age; i suggest that you should be eating MORE and lifting weights MUCH MORE than you are doing now.

    calorie restriction is not the way for you to go!
  • rnch

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    Jun 23, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidEating out four to five times a week is excessive...





    agree
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    Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidEating out four to five times a week is excessive.


    It's not just excessive, it's costly! And if it's not costly, it'd mean you're likely eating food you shouldn't be, i.e. McDonalds.
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    Jun 23, 2011 2:05 PM GMT

    Would pouring laundry detergent into your cars gas tank fall into a category of being "strict" about auto Maintenance? It's not a case of "strict" because your car is not designed to run on liquid detergent.

    Our bodies were designed by an evolution process which did not include ice cream. It is not strict to eat what they are designed to eat. Eating a Paleo diet is the cornerstone of fitness and health. It's really a waste of energy to
    Fuel your body with alien manmade substances and the spend hours every day in the gym trying to "burn" them out of your system. Your body is naturally, and without a gym membership, lean and beautiful. Just eat naturally and you will have abs without crash training.
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    Jun 23, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    Yesterday I did a really intense workout. Literally the exact moment I finished (7:30pm), my friend showed up and we started mixing shots...till 4am. Fortunately I only buy top shelf liquors, otherwise I'd be hungover as fuck right now. icon_lol.gif
  • Lincsbear

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    Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    Hi there,Utah,
    I managed to go from a very unfit(unable to run two miles),sixteen stone man(I`m six feet one) to a fit(half marathon in ninety minutes),toned,lightly muscled,thirteen and a half stone one with out a nazi -style approach to eating,etc.!In fact,I ate more when exercising!But I cut the fat generally,and ate more healthily....most of the time.However,I didn`t cut the 'treats' too much(ice cream,pizza,cheese,cakes,chocolate,etc.icon_smile.gif)I kept them going,at least once a week or more.I think the reason I succeeded was consistency of training,and always doing something active to maintain the habit.And I enjoyed myself in the process.Having started all this at fourty six my only regret is why I left it so long when I have a talent for it!Best wishes with your training!
  • Lincsbear

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    Jun 23, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
    Hi there,Utah,
    I managed to go from a very unfit(unable to run two miles),sixteen stone man(I`m six feet one) to a fit(half marathon in ninety minutes),toned,lightly muscled,thirteen and a half stone one with out a nazi -style approach to eating,etc.!In fact,I ate more when exercising!But I cut the fat generally,and ate more healthily....most of the time.However,I didn`t cut the 'treats' too much(ice cream,pizza,cheese,cakes,chocolate,etc.icon_smile.gif)I kept them going,at least once a week or more.I think the reason I succeeded was consistency of training,and always doing something active to maintain the habit.And I enjoyed myself in the process.Having started all this at fourty six my only regret is why I left it so long when I have a talent for it!Best wishes with your training!
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra saidI am always confused as to why people wait until summer before starting to head to the gym and getting into shape. I mean, wouldn't it be a better idea to start in the spring or winter so that once summer comes along you'll be ready for it? If you start now wouldn't it be winter by the time you are done?

    i dont get it.


    I am in shape, and I have been my entire life....I just haven't been a gym rat these past 9 months because I've been snowboarding competitively throughout that period. So by saying "in shape", I mean I'm trying to reach my goals more of gaining weight. I still look the exact same in my pictures today, as I did when I took them 3 or 4 months ago, so you can get off my dick. icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidEating out four to five times a week is excessive.

    I go out to eat three to four times a month.


    Oh well, I'm a college student who works and also doesn't go a single day without some sort of outside activity, whether it be hiking, biking, etc.

    When I say "eating out", I'm not saying I eat the shittiest foods on the menu, or that I'm eating fast food. It's usually eating at "moderately" healthier places, like Panera Bread, and if I'm not eating at a "healthy" place, I choose the healthiest decision.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 23, 2011 5:21 PM GMT
    I've always been very lucky. I'm very strict about my workouts and my diet
    is fair. Never overeat, but I tend to vary from "excellent" to "poor" depending on whats going. I know what my body is capable of and sometimes am almost at awe at what it does for me without being "absolutely strict" about the intake.

    However if I want to continue to look this way or improve, I realize I will need to be more consistently serious about my diet.
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidEating out four to five times a week is excessive.

    I go out to eat three to four times a month.


    ha... some people have very little time to prepare food.

    I take it back - I don't have time to prepare food that is at all satisfying or healthy. Not even taking into consideration clean up time and all that mess. How on earth do you live in a city, presumably work, and only eat out 3-4 times a month??? I can't even fathom! lol. I eat out every single day, at least once. haha.... its bad... but i really dont have time to cook! If I cooked I wouldnt sleep!

    For me, its better to eat out and order carefully....

    To the OP: I am not on a strict diet, but I have found it helpful to eat sensibly. Yes, sometimes that means not ordering an entire plate of fried rice when that's what I really want. But in general I eat what I want.

    A big thing is portion control. Order carbs or whatever... but you dont have to eat the entire thing just because its there..... and for me, I have had to practice eating all the meat on the plate and leaving some carbs behind. I tended to do the opposite. i've found good results with subtle changes in diet.

    No need to go crazy with it- esp with how you look great already!!
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    ZbmwM5 said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidEating out four to five times a week is excessive.

    I go out to eat three to four times a month.


    ha... some people have very little time to prepare food.

    I take it back - I don't have time to prepare food that is at all satisfying or healthy.

    Better to eat out and order carefully....


    I second this.

    I don't even have a kitchen in my dorm when school is in session, and I see of plenty of handsome fit guys in my building.




    I guess this thread got the wrong vibe, I think it's starting to come off that I'm a fat ass.
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:41 PM GMT
    I'm in very good shape, through working out, eating (mostly) right, keeping a good attitude and being blessed with good genes. I've always eaten pretty much what I wanted and tried to stay away from junk food. I avoid buffet restaurants. Any guy wondering what to eat can read all kinds of good books, but one simple thing to do (that is enlightening) is to observe people in your grocery store. If you see someone with a great look, a fit body, notice what is in his (or her) cart. Vegetables, lean chicken, fish, and other good things. Compare that to what you see in a fatty's cart - processed junk food, and very often - cigarettes and beer.

    Just eat what you know is good for you - and try to avoid garbage. Maybe once in a while, indulge in something you like, (for me - eclairs) but limit yourself to eating this way just a few times a month.

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    Jun 23, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    I don't believe "strict dieting" really even works in the long term. The people I know who successfully utilize the concept do it for specific, short-term results (ie: a photo shoot, film / tv appearance, competition etc). Counting calories and measuring every morsal, never eating anything larger the size of your fist blah blah blah is all a result of a huge diet industry aimed at women. And it perpetuates itself. Just look at the results most of them get.

    In my experience you can eat as much as you want (I think it is stupid to be hungry EVER) just eat real food. I think refined sugar is the worst. White flour is right up there. I personally don't do much dairy but it upsets my stomach.

    I eat out 3-5 nights a week but I know what I can eat and what to avoid. I also know how to cook so I know how things are prepared on a menu. I don't eat fast food so that's not an issue. And if I over-indulge in something it's no big deal. If your metabolism is reved-up, and you are building muscle you have little to worry about. As far as desserts and ice cream and that kinda stuff - when I want it I have it. But I am really happy with fruit (which I eat A LOT of ). Cake and pie and pudding - 3 bites and I'm over it.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 23, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    I never paid any attention to what I ate, and ate anything and everything I wanted and never gained a pound. Then in my 40's my metabolism started changing and those late night pints of Ben & Jerry's, or breakfast's that included pancakes or biscuits and gravy weren't looking so good, so I had to stay more conscious about what I ate if I wanted to stay in shape. Now I am really careful what I eat. That being said, if cake, cookies, or pizza is anywhere near me -- all bets are off!
  • docbailey2005

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    Jun 23, 2011 6:04 PM GMT
    If i could learn to diet hardcore after all these years. No doubt i could make great gains. My discipline is at about 90%
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    Jun 23, 2011 7:43 PM GMT
    I try to keep a general idea of my diet composition. 40% carbs, 30% fat 30% protein was what was recommended to me and I try to make sure I make the most of each (complex carbs, unsaturated fats, and lean proteins).
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    Jun 23, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
    For several years I have been on a slow gradual evolution to a healthier diet, and I don't consider mine to be "strict". I don't generally weigh or measure most things. However, when I visit my brother I am confronted with mostly stuff I don't have in my own kitchen. The nephews are pre-teen and most of the groceries are shopped around them. When I have that rare visitor to my home, I have occasionally received comments about it being "too wholesome" or some such criticism.

    For the first part of the question, I don't think where I am now is much of a "where" to be bragging about either.
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    Jun 23, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    no-one over 30 (apart from the very few genetic freaks) can eat anything and get away with it. As we get older we work out what sort of stuff damages us (for some dairy, others gluten etc). But there is no way round it. You have to be tighter and more disciplined with your diet than you do with your training.

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    Jun 23, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    I think a lot of it is in the genes and i am a big fan of things in moderation. I ea what i want, but only when hungry. I don't eat for the sake of eating or maintaining a certain weight. I also don't have much of a sweet tooth, so when i want something sweet, i indulge. Listening to the body, a little will power and genes are what i attribute to my physique. No supplements, so i know I'll never be huge, but i think maintenance is more important than growing. It's impossible to maintain things naturally, if arnold schwartzenegger is any evidence!
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    Jun 24, 2011 1:40 AM GMT
    i eat potato chips alot

    Its trial and error. You will find what foods work for you, what you can get away with and what you need to rein in.

    Eat lots of chicken, fruit, greek yogurts, eggs, protein shakes, salads, coffee, and slow cooked oats. Those are the staples for me.

    I do eat good but far far far from clean. I dont drink much only on a special occasion, dont really eat out much, have ice cream every once in a while and not huge on sweet desserts especially in the summer.

    I will indulge in peanut butter, chocolate chip pancakes, bacon, cheese omlettes, sausage pizza and buffalo wings when I feel like it but you have to know when to pick and choose your battles. If you try to restrict everything you will drive yourself insane and you will become miserable and start lashing out at others around you.