large metro area 1Million+ and gay life.

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    Jun 23, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    I am looking for a city with at least a million in size. I also want a place that has a healthy gay community. I dont want to live in LA,Chicago or NYc. I had a great time at San Diego's Hillcrest. DC was also a lot of fun but can also be a rough town.

    I moved from Seattle because I miss 4 seasons and get tired of the persistent rain. Mixed with the horrible freeway infrastructure and poor public transit options, I decided I needed a break. Now I have a college degree and I am looking for an interesting new city.

    major cities I have traveled to: NYC, San Diego, Seattle, Portland, DC, Dallas, Minneapolis, Miami, Ft Lauderdale. (been to more cities but these are where I have explored gay culture)

    anyone have some insight? Thanks
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    Why don't you want to live in LA, NYC, or Chicago? It would help if you gave more specifics on what you'd like from a city. When I was moving, I narrowed it down to NYC, San Diego, and Chicago. I had very specific criteria, which helped me make my decision.
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    Jun 23, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    I've been in SoFla for a few years now and love it.
  • jim_sf

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    Jun 23, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
    I'll echo East_Village_Idiot's question: why are LA, NYC, and Chicago off the list? We can give better suggestions if we know how to narrow the criteria.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 23, 2011 11:04 PM GMT
    Columbus, Ohio is a very good city for a young, gay guy. It is growing, progressive, and it has a four season climate. Check out Columbus.
  • shawn06

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    Jun 23, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    Phoenix has a good gay population. I would say san diego though as I recently went there and enjoyed hillcrest. Though every one of those cities are significantly more expensive than phoenix. If not here then I would say Austin or Dallas are nice places as well, even though Austin is not over 1 million people.
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    Jun 23, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    Atlanta! It is a very big city and has a great gay life.
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    Jun 23, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    COLUMBUS, OHIO!
    Big City...over 1million.
    HEALTHY GAY LIFE!
    Four Seasons.
    Good Economy.
    Affordable cost of living
    Easy transportation and infrastructure.....
    Growing City
    LARGE University!
    GREAT PARKS
    Variety of Neighborhoods....
    lots of social activities...
    younger population....


    You should visit and give it a try!icon_biggrin.gif
  • JP85257

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    Jun 23, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    Phoenix is a good city. The freeway infrastructure is good, but the public transit sucks. Oh well. Its why I own a car.

    Its not awful.
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
    YoungjockMN saidI am looking for a city with at least a million in size. I also want a place that has a healthy gay community. I dont want to live in LA,Chicago or NYc.


    Sounds like you want to live in San Francisco, Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Phoenix, or Minneapolis to me.

    Based on the public transit and four (distinct?) seasons criteria, Boston is probably your best bet.
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:09 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete said Based on the public transit and four (distinct?) seasons criteria, Boston is probably your best bet.

    Boston would be a winner except that the OP doesn't like weather. If he thought Seattle was depressing, try Boston from January though early May. March is the worst - it's rife with breakups, divorces, and rampant nastiness due to everyone's awareness that cabin fever, already at the breaking point, has two more months to go.
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:09 AM GMT
    I'm gonna go on a limb here and say Alabama isn't going to meet your criteria.

    We got four seasons though!

    Mild Winter
    Summer
    Extreme Summer
    Mild Summer
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:14 AM GMT
    new york, Chicago and LA are all way too large. having a car isnt even piratical/possible. apartments in NYC are small cubicals compared to other cities. i am 29 and have way too much stuff to do the studio thing again.

    my preference isnt to live in the gayest city, or the biggest one. I left seattle because I was waisting too much of my life in traffic on a daily basis and the stress from almost being in an accident on a weekly/biweekly basis wasnt healthy.

    I havent ever been to Columbus. What does columbus offer that other cities dont? what reasons does a person have to travel there besides business trips or family? i just never hear about any events going on there (like maybe gay rodeo) do they have a gay bar to two step at?

    Phoenix had crossed my mind, although i dont think i would enjoy that much heat. same problem with Atlanta.

    Boston i would totally consider. I love hockey and winter sports. minnesota redefined what i consider a "hard winter."

    I am excited to get involved in some of the gay adventure clubs here in Minneapolis. However, the city overall has been a disappointment compared to Seattle. it just isnt big enough i guess. I am going to give it a year, and if I still havent found an attachment to Mpls then i will move to another city.

    so winter sports, scuba diving, motorcycle riding, country western dance crowd and clubs are all important to me. I am a fresh graduate so someplace that doesnt have a real real high cost of living. I enjoy driving a car, and bike, but would prefer to bicycle to work most months of the year.
  • JP85257

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    Jun 24, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    We are biting down on the heat just recently. Only 114 today. It ends at the end of Sept.
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    Gah you are picky.
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:23 AM GMT
    YoungjockMN said
    so winter sports, scuba diving, motorcycle riding, country western dance crowd and clubs are all important to me. I am a fresh graduate so someplace that doesnt have a real real high cost of living. I enjoy driving a car, and bike, but would prefer to bicycle to work most months of the year.


    Hmm, winter sports and scuba diving are gonna make it tough to get both. You might just want to get yourself in a financial situation that allows you to do what I do, which is fly back and forth between the Northeast and FL a bunch. icon_neutral.gif

    If that's not an option, but you love snowsports enough that the lack of them is a dealbreaker, then I'd say go with Boston - you'll be able to scuba during the warm months, but you can't do snowsports at any time of the year in ATL or Florida. But then you won't find much in the way of country line dancing unless you take field trips out to my old haunts of western MA. There's an excellent contra scene out there too. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    So... Boston is great. I lived in Cambridge for 3 years and loved it there. There are different sub cultures to Cambridge vs Boston, but that's another thread. You will have the winter sports scene, and the general major league sports scene (Bostonians love winning championships). The gay community is thriving, but admittedly cliquey - think of it as a cold, hard shell with a warm, gooey center. My suggestion, if you go that route, is to get involved in groups - ski clubs, flag football, softball, whatever, and you will make some initial friends that way... then it snowballs from there, and before you know it, you'll know half the city. There is actually a gay country western dance group in Boston, but it's a small scene compared to the bars you would find in the south / west USA. Country music just isn't a big thing in New England. You also mentioned motorcycles, and I know there's a huge bike rally up in New Hampshire every summer, near Laconia or Alton Bay. Boston is great for bicycling too, as it's small enough to get around town by bicycle alone in the warm months... I have a few friends who are crazy enough to cycle 12 months/year too. If you can confine the bulk of your life to Boston / Cambridge though, then cycling and public transportation should be all you need.

    I wouldn't rule San Diego out if you're worried about winter sports though. I know lots of Southern Californians who make the drive up to Mammoth or Big Bear on a regular basis. You would also have the SCUBA and country music scene there. There aren't really 4 seasons in SoCal though, unless you define them as fire, flood, riot, and earthquake...
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:47 AM GMT
    What dont you like about Minnesota?
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    Jun 24, 2011 12:48 AM GMT
    East_Village_Idiot saidWhy don't you want to live in LA, NYC, or Chicago?

    Why don't you understand that he doesn't want to fucking live there?
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    Jun 24, 2011 1:36 AM GMT
    Barcelona.
  • BravoDC

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    Jun 24, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    DC sucks....! don't come here!

  • Jun 24, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    philadelphia
  • Kwokpot

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    Jun 24, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    Consider Philadelphia.

    Much smaller than NYC (yet over 1million), yet has many amenities of it. Four seasons with none of each too severe, lower cost of living (than NYC), very gay friendly, numerous gay bars and clubs, many, many young adults due to the many colleges & universities here.

    Philly hosts several annual gay events, including The Equality Forum, Philly Qfest Film Festival, and Philly Pride.

    Public transit includes subways, streetcars, trains, and buses. There are two car sharing services, Phillycar share and ZipCar.

    www.phillygaycalender.com



  • metta

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    Jun 24, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    San Francisco?

    Maybe Toronto, ON, Canada or London, England.
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    Jun 24, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    YoungjockMN saidPhoenix had crossed my mind, although i dont think i would enjoy that much heat. same problem with Atlanta.

    Boston i would totally consider. I love hockey and winter sports. minnesota redefined what i consider a "hard winter."... so winter sports, scuba diving, motorcycle riding, country western dance crowd and clubs are all important to me.


    You might want to re-check Atlanta weather. Boston and Atlanta are similarly hot in the summer, in my opinion.

    ATL's winter's are colder than Beantown's, but slightly milder. But ATL is not hot all-year-round like some people think. It's at the base of the Appalachian Mountains and does have four distinct seasons, though not postcard perfect seasons like you get as you go up the Eastern Seabord.

    You do realize that (unless you want to take a second look at L.A.) it's going to be hard to find a city where you can scuba dive, find a vibrant country & western 'scene', and partake in winter sports, don't you? Something's gotta give, bro.

    It does sound like you're a Boston boy, though.