Healthy carbs are making me fat!

  • 1man

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    Jun 25, 2011 2:23 PM GMT
    I've been eating so-called healthy carbs, mainly brown rice and other whole grains, for about 2 years, trying to get more fiber in my diet. I've been steady getting fatter and fatter. When I wasn't eating these carbs I was able to maintain a healthy weight of 165 - 170lbs. These healthy carbs seem to have the same effect on me as the unhealthy carbs, including the puffiness and bloat. Now I'm back to only eating veggies and lean protein, and maybe oatmeal breakfast. Has anyone else experience this issue?
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    Jun 25, 2011 2:42 PM GMT
    Maybe you're eating too much of them and at the wrong time? Also, do you eat them by themselves? If yes, then the GI index for that meal will be higher than, say, if you had a piece of chicken breast cutlet + some flaxseed oil with those carbs.

    If you're having two large bowls of brown rice + some greasy Chinese food with no protein whatsoever, at 10pm as your last meal of the day, then of course you'll store bodyfat. (I'm not saying you are; I'm just offering a hypothetical scenario)
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    Jun 25, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    cityaznguy saidMaybe you're eating too much of them and at the wrong time? Also, do you eat them by themselves? If yes, then the GI index for that meal will be higher than, say, if you had a piece of chicken breast cutlet + some flaxseed oil with those carbs.

    If you're having two large bowls of brown rice + some greasy Chinese food with no protein whatever, at 10pm as your last meal of the day, then of course you'll store bodyfat. (I'm not saying you are; I'm just offering a hypothetical scenario)


    No, I was still eating a balanced meal, usually chicken or turkey, veggies, and brown rice. Never past 7pm.
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    Jun 25, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    1man said
    cityaznguy saidMaybe you're eating too much of them and at the wrong time? Also, do you eat them by themselves? If yes, then the GI index for that meal will be higher than, say, if you had a piece of chicken breast cutlet + some flaxseed oil with those carbs.

    If you're having two large bowls of brown rice + some greasy Chinese food with no protein whatever, at 10pm as your last meal of the day, then of course you'll store bodyfat. (I'm not saying you are; I'm just offering a hypothetical scenario)


    No, I was still eating a balanced meal, usually chicken or turkey, veggies, and about a cup of brown rice. Never past 7pm.


    ....that's odd. I was on the south beach / Atkins style diet for the longest time, and I couldn't lose any body fat. But when I started Tabata and full body insanity-ish circuit training I had to eat more and better carbs, and I actually lost a lot of bodyfat.

    Maybe others can chime in. The best guy to answer this is MuchMoreThanMuscle. Hope he sees this post. I followed his advice and I probably lost another 2% of BF. He offers sound advice =)
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    Jun 25, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    You weren't eating any fruit? you should. Whole grains are healthy because of the fiber, and they got a little more protein and vitamins/minerals. But fruit is even more healthy.

    That said, calories are calories, no matter where they come from.

  • LJay

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    Jun 25, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
    Which veggies? Carrots, corn and beets are all perfecly good veggies, but carry a much greater glycemic load than broccoli, cabbage and greens. Too, who says you need to eat a whole cup of cooked brown rice? Try half of that.

    Monitor water intake and fiber content. Brown rice is great stuff, but there are other ways toget that fiber without quite the starch.

    All kinds of things enter into the weight equation and it may be the the kind and time of your exercise is part of it all.
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    Jun 25, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    Healthy or not, CARBS are still CARBS and unless you eat them in moderation and excercise appropriate to what you take in, YOU WILL gain weight.
    When eating carbs, eat the healthy one (like you have done) but too many will do what they have already done to you....you will gain weight.
    It is like the old Atkins diet.....too much protein is not good....proper amount/mederation/portion control is the #1 issue to keep in mind....
    this has worked for me...I lost 30 lbs. so far in 3 months and am still working on it....good luck, or should I say better luck to you with the new knowledge that everyone is sharing with you.......
    be well
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Jun 25, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    SAme here. Most carbs make me feel bloated and puffy and almost indigestion. Which isnt goood.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Jun 25, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    after reading all of the threads, i would have to ask what is your workout routine like? how many calories are you taking in a day?
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    Jun 25, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
    1man saidI've been eating so-called healthy carbs, mainly brown rice and other whole grains, for about 2 years, trying to get more fiber in my diet. I've been steady getting fatter and fatter. When I wasn't eating these carbs I was able to maintain a healthy weight of 165 - 170lbs. These healthy carbs seem to have the same effect on me as the unhealthy carbs, including the puffiness and bloat. Now I'm back to only eating veggies and lean protein, and maybe oatmeal breakfast. Has anyone else experience this issue?


    You could be more detailed. How many calories a day you have? How(what) much you exercise?
    The whole grains, is that bread( most breads have HFCS)
    Your metabolism may slow down as well.


    I had to give up whole grains too. Rice I don't like much anyway. That is because I get enough carbs from milk, fruits, and vegies. When I like to gain some weight I will add raw oats and more protein, but usually it's just more milk.
  • 1man

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    Jun 25, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    Stan904 saidYou weren't eating any fruit? you should. Whole grains are healthy because of the fiber, and they got a little more protein and vitamins/minerals. But fruit is even more healthy.

    That said, calories are calories, no matter where they come from.



    yes, I eat lots of fruits.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Jun 25, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI have a feeling the OP overdid it when it came to rationing portions for his carbohydrate intake. Remember a serving size of past is only two ounces. Most people have no idea what two ounces looks like and tend to double the portions.

    A serving of rice is only one fourth cup or, it is the same as two ounces. One serving of rice is roughly thirty-five grams of carbohydrates. Stick with either brown rice or parboiled rice. To be honest, rice does not have as much fiber as wholewheat pasta.

    I like to cycle things up and eat either wholewheat pasta and then at other times I will eat brown rice. Wholewheat pasta has more fiber per serving. It has three times the fiber per serving (brown rice = 2g per serving) and (wholewheat = 6g per serving).

    The more fiber a carbohydrate has the lower the glycemic index the food will cause which results in a lower insulin spike.

    There are times to spike insulin such as earlier in the day and after an intense workout. Upon rising, eating breakfast is a great time to spike a little insulin and take advantage of it so shuttle whatever protein source you're eating into skeletal muscle. But just remember to keep fat on the low end to zilch when spiking insulin. So basically carbs and protein.

    Depending on your goals you have to determine an amount of carbohydrates (in grams) to consume on a daily basis. I multiple my weight by 1.25 or 1.75 depending if I want to maintain or bulk a bit. I could eat quite a bit more but then I have to be prepared for the fat that accumulates.

    Hope this helps.
    thanks big guy, hell i didn't know that and i am a trainer. i now have a new food to eat. he can also try eating quineo its a whole grain and it is better for you than brown rice and more protein too
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    Jun 25, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    If you eat lots of veggies I wouldn't worry about fiber. Broccoli or cauliflower has more fiber per gram than cooked brown rice, fewer calories, and more vitamins and essential fatty acids. Whole grain bread / pasta has more fiber but not much and too much sodium and gluten.
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    Jun 25, 2011 9:27 PM GMT
    1man saidI've been eating so-called healthy carbs, mainly brown rice and other whole grains, for about 2 years, trying to get more fiber in my diet. I've been steady getting fatter and fatter. When I wasn't eating these carbs I was able to maintain a healthy weight of 165 - 170lbs. These healthy carbs seem to have the same effect on me as the unhealthy carbs, including the puffiness and bloat. Now I'm back to only eating veggies and lean protein, and maybe oatmeal breakfast. Has anyone else experience this issue?


    Cut out the rice and grains completely. You get lots of fiber from a broad array of vegetables. There are very few "healthy carbs". Read up on Paleo Diet as one of many approaches to reduce carb intake and the reasons behind it.

    You just learned what we as a nation (in the US) are learning. Rice, grains, pastas, dairy - all that stuff is making us fat.
  • 1man

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    Jun 25, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    pre_mortem saidIf you eat lots of veggies I wouldn't worry about fiber. Broccoli or cauliflower has more fiber per gram than cooked brown rice, fewer calories, and more vitamins and essential fatty acids. Whole grain bread / pasta has more fiber but not much and too much sodium and gluten.


    I agree, ate that way for years and never had issues with weight gain. One good thing is, i'll probably drop these extra pounds quickly.
  • 1man

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    Jun 25, 2011 11:30 PM GMT
    outdoorathlete said
    1man saidI've been eating so-called healthy carbs, mainly brown rice and other whole grains, for about 2 years, trying to get more fiber in my diet. I've been steady getting fatter and fatter. When I wasn't eating these carbs I was able to maintain a healthy weight of 165 - 170lbs. These healthy carbs seem to have the same effect on me as the unhealthy carbs, including the puffiness and bloat. Now I'm back to only eating veggies and lean protein, and maybe oatmeal breakfast. Has anyone else experience this issue?


    Cut out the rice and grains completely. You get lots of fiber from a broad array of vegetables. There are very few "healthy carbs". Read up on Paleo Diet as one of many approaches to reduce carb intake and the reasons behind it.

    You just learned what we as a nation (in the US) are learning. Rice, grains, pastas, dairy - all that stuff is making us fat.


    I agree!
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    Jun 26, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    1man saidHealthy carbs are making me fat!
    Well duh! That's what carbs do when your body naturally stores carbs easily.
    Trade carb calories for protein calories.
    For your fiber, eat lots of veggies and nuts, a few fruits, and save the grains for when you pig out on sushi (like I regularly do).

    <-- Proud member of the ex-fatass club.
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    Jun 26, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    yeah its recommended that you eat your meals balanced and carbs- fat combo will help digest better until your next meal.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    Stan904 saidYou weren't eating any fruit? you should. Whole grains are healthy because of the fiber, and they got a little more protein and vitamins/minerals. But fruit is even more healthy.

    That said, calories are calories, no matter where they come from.



    Really? Do you think you would look the same from eating 4000 calories a day of fish, chicken and vegetables as you would from eating 4000 calories a day of icecream, beer and nachos?

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    I can't stand that ugly yellow nacho cheese! Looks and smells like...
  • Starboard

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    Why are you calling grains and rice "healthy"? http://thehealthyskeptic.org/9-steps-to-perfect-health-1-dont-eat-toxins
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    Jun 27, 2011 10:33 PM GMT
    Brown rice, whole wheats, oatmeal, and sweet potatoes are all healthy, but you need to seriously monitor portion sizes!!! A good rule of thumb I tell patients is to eat a lean protein the size of their fist and a carb source no bigger than that for each meal. Eat six to eight small meals per day, and never eat carbs within three to four hours of bed.