Android vs iPhone

  • Vaughn

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    Jun 25, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    What are the actual differences and why should I care?
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    Jun 26, 2011 1:00 AM GMT
    Android- affordable, on any network, open source system, flash abilities, apps seem to be cheaper, more features at the time being, huge device selection.

    iPhone- unmatched build quality, by far better tech support, more intuitive, easier to use (a little too dummy proof sometimes), more apps, more reliable, less glitchy, iCould and iOS5 coming out in the fall will make it amazing, comes with apple stickers.

    I'm a little Apple biased, I have an iPhone 4. I like Androids a lot though, mostly because they give apple tons of competition. and vise versa, win win for us : )
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    Jun 26, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    Andrew, that was beautiful! Usually the first response post is either an apple fanboy gushing about the vast superiority of the iOS UI, or a fandroid extolling the immeasurable virtues of their smoke and lasers skinning. They do both have their advantages and you can make happy with either.

    Do your homework though if you pluck down for an android device OP, they are of widely varied quality!
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    Jun 26, 2011 2:03 AM GMT
    Because iPhone apps are written for an OS that runs on only 1 basic hardware platform, you don't have as many compatibility issues. Also, if it matters, there are many more apps for the iPhone.

    Also agree that highly opinionated flamers are tiresome. Having competition is good for everyone.
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    Jun 26, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    I have a blackberry right now and I'm considering an upgrade to either the jesus phone or android. My brother has both and says the android is customizable in a way that the iphone can't. I think I'll be doing with an iphone because it will fit in the same dock as my ipod touch to play music and also be compatible with the factory audio system in my car.
  • squash4dave

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    Jun 26, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    I don't have either, yet, but my sister can download music to her Android, then upload it to her iTunes, from several aps. I have an iPod touch, 4th gen, and cannot do that. At least, I've tried, and haven't found an app that let's me do that. So I have been leaning towards an Android. If anyone out there knows if that can be done, I'd appreciate the info. Don't get me wrong, I like Apple. I have a Mac and the iPod, like I said, but the open source seems a plus. Also, iPhone does not yet have 4G LTE, which is what everyone is moving towards in the cell phone market. So, it seems to me that an iPhone will shortly be obsolete. I don't feel like having to buy a new phone every year for a few hundred bucks. If I buy an Android 4G, at least I'd be able to hold onto it a little longer. Am I wrong? I'm open to other opinions.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:41 AM GMT
    I'm about using what works for your circumstances. Early iPad and iPhone user, but I've used Droid stuff as well. They both have a lot going for them. It boiled down to, for me, while I would enjoy the geeking out that's easily done with either, I'll stick with Apple because the parts seem to fit together better (Android has made huge leaps here, and good on 'em), and go back to building robots and weird stuff as a hobby
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:50 AM GMT
    I'd like an iPhone but my poor ass has an old T-Mobile phone that doesnt even have internet on it icon_sad.gif
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    I want an Android, but hubby wants an Iphone 4, so we are debating what to get. My problem is that almost everyone I know with an Iphone 4 has a cracked screen.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:57 AM GMT
    Android is like a pc. If has morw capabilities but there's alot more to learn. Also more glitches. Much more open platform though. As for iphpne its like a mac. Secured platform. User friendly. Less glitchy but less capabilities. I prefer android
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:59 AM GMT
    I have an iPhone and my sister has an Android, and I don't really see any significant difference when it comes to daily use.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Jun 26, 2011 6:05 AM GMT
    Android
    I don't like to have what everyone else wants and what is probably overrated. Love my phone and wouldn't change it to be part of the Apple hype
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    Jun 26, 2011 6:11 AM GMT
    It is wayyy too late for me to get involved, but let me try to help.

    First, which network are you on? Assuming you are in the US, you can choose between Verizon and AT&T. While I am biased to Verizon (because I worked there), their network truly is more reliable. However, AT&T's 3G is, in theory, faster. Whether or not this is true comes down to how well they have backhauled their sites in your location.

    Apple vs. Android. Wow. First off NO ANDROID will ever feel like the iPhone and the iPhone will never feel like an Android. They are two completely different beasts, and it is truly hard to compare them. They both accomplish the same tasks but there are stipulations to both that set them apart:

    -iPhone will be more stable in general, with more polish
    -Android products DO MORE than iPhones. (more in a sec)
    -Android has access to Verizon's (truly astonishing) 4G LTE network
    -iPhone will be more user friendly, and will always "just work"

    One important note about Android. Get the beasts, do not get the discounted ones. You need phones such as the HTC Thunderbolt (VZW), Moto Atrix (AT&T), or EVO 3D (Sprint). Those are the models that are the fastest, most powerful. Regardless of which you choose (iPhone or Android), you will have (assuming you get one of the aforementioned high end Androids:

    Front and rear facing cameras (Android are all 8MP, iP currently 5)
    Incredible displays
    Lots of storage (HTC Thunderbolt leads the pack at 40 GB standard!)
    High-quality finish and feel
    Multitasking
    others

    Few leading points for android:
    Openess....go to beemp3.com or any other MP3 download site and download any song just like you were on your computer at home. iPhone can only download music through iTunes.
    Flash support
    Free Google Turn by Turn Navigation
    Widget support (google if you dont know what that is)
    All contacts are backed up to Google automatically.

    ....but the BIGGEST reason, and the SOLE reason I will always be on Android....
    APP INTEGRATION! THIS IS HUGE! Every application on an Android phone can work with the others. Every sensor in your phone can be set to do something. You can replace the SMS app if you want. You can replace the keyboard. You can decide what color the LED flashes.
    The best app is called Tasker. It allows you to make your phone do ANYTHING based on ANYTHING happening. For example:
    -Auto high screen brightness on picture gallery opening
    -Auto silent when plugged in and face down
    -Auto vibrate at work
    -Auto GPS on/off with maps & navigate
    -Auto silent when near schools wifi
    -Auto low earpiece volume when dad calls (louuuud voice)
    -Sound-sensitive headphone volume (raises music volume when passing loud noises)
    -Auto start & shuffle music when headphones inserted
    -Three calls in a row from mom/dad will force ringer if in silent
    -2 quick waves of the hand past the proximity sensor activates Grindr (hehe)
    ....the list goes on.....use your imagination

    All that is possible because everything is working together in synergy. And none of that is possible on the iPhone.

    Androids will always DO MORE for the reasons I listed above. For the iPhone, its just a computer with lots of seperate applications. And it does it damn well. Android is more of a complete mobile powerhouse that not only has apps, but has the ability to bend over backwards for you to customize it however you want. ROMS and skins are availible to completely change the look and feel of Android if you want. Ever notice how every iPhone looks the exact same? Same SMS app...same homescreens? Not on Android. Google "Thunderbolt ROMS'....the choices are endless.

    I recommend the thunderbolt on VZW for a few reasons:
    Simultaneous voice/surf on 3G and 4G (take that ATT! lol)
    4G speeds (see below)
    Incredible camera & pretty good front one
    VZW's large 3G area
    40 Gigs of space
    Kickstand (Skype video conferencing is easier)
    Loud speakerphone


    You didnt mention which network you are on, but you have GOT to see these VZW 4G speeds. 3G speeds are around 2 megs per second in my area. AT&T in most areas is UP TO 6 megs per second as I have seen on the geek forums. Now look at this....and this is no mistake man:

    216371_1770807108878_1200240068_31599276

    Yeah, almost 28 megs per second to your phone. I have seen as high as 49. I have never seen less than 15 megs per second, ever. Verizon has done its 4G network up so well it puts all the other ones to shame. My home internet is only 20 megs per second....

    I must say, that does come at a cost of battery. I am lucky to see 9 hours per day.

    You wont see anywhere near those speeds on any iPhone or any non-VZW 4G enabled smartphones, but if you are just checking facebook and RJ, 3G will be fine, regardless of which network or phone you choose. Although I cant help try to steer you away from AT&T, they are continuously ranked the network with the lowest user satisfaction rate. It may be great in your area, but as a whole, it lacks.

    If you want, I can go into network details for each AT&T and Verizon and explain why Verizon drops less calls etc (comes down to the CDMA technology), but for now, I hope I have helped, and I am sorry for getting off on this rant. Cell phones are my speciality. If you have any questions for me, PM me.

    PS. All networks give you at least 14 days to test out the network and phone....try em both!!

    Tyler




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    Jun 26, 2011 11:51 AM GMT
    Quoting this hidden post because it deserves to be seen.

    Trocks797 saidIt is wayyy too late for me to get involved, but let me try to help.

    First, which network are you on? Assuming you are in the US, you can choose between Verizon and AT&T. While I am biased to Verizon (because I worked there), their network truly is more reliable. However, AT&T's 3G is, in theory, faster. Whether or not this is true comes down to how well they have backhauled their sites in your location.

    Apple vs. Android. Wow. First off NO ANDROID will ever feel like the iPhone and the iPhone will never feel like an Android. They are two completely different beasts, and it is truly hard to compare them. They both accomplish the same tasks but there are stipulations to both that set them apart:

    -iPhone will be more stable in general, with more polish
    -Android products DO MORE than iPhones. (more in a sec)
    -Android has access to Verizon's (truly astonishing) 4G LTE network
    -iPhone will be more user friendly, and will always "just work"

    One important note about Android. Get the beasts, do not get the discounted ones. You need phones such as the HTC Thunderbolt (VZW), Moto Atrix (AT&T), or EVO 3D (Sprint). Those are the models that are the fastest, most powerful. Regardless of which you choose (iPhone or Android), you will have (assuming you get one of the aforementioned high end Androids:

    Front and rear facing cameras (Android are all 8MP, iP currently 5)
    Incredible displays
    Lots of storage (HTC Thunderbolt leads the pack at 40 GB standard!)
    High-quality finish and feel
    Multitasking
    others

    Few leading points for android:
    Openess....go to beemp3.com or any other MP3 download site and download any song just like you were on your computer at home. iPhone can only download music through iTunes.
    Flash support
    Free Google Turn by Turn Navigation
    Widget support (google if you dont know what that is)
    All contacts are backed up to Google automatically.

    ....but the BIGGEST reason, and the SOLE reason I will always be on Android....
    APP INTEGRATION! THIS IS HUGE! Every application on an Android phone can work with the others. Every sensor in your phone can be set to do something. You can replace the SMS app if you want. You can replace the keyboard. You can decide what color the LED flashes.
    The best app is called Tasker. It allows you to make your phone do ANYTHING based on ANYTHING happening. For example:
    -Auto high screen brightness on picture gallery opening
    -Auto silent when plugged in and face down
    -Auto vibrate at work
    -Auto GPS on/off with maps & navigate
    -Auto silent when near schools wifi
    -Auto low earpiece volume when dad calls (louuuud voice)
    -Sound-sensitive headphone volume (raises music volume when passing loud noises)
    -Auto start & shuffle music when headphones inserted
    -Three calls in a row from mom/dad will force ringer if in silent
    -2 quick waves of the hand past the proximity sensor activates Grindr (hehe)
    ....the list goes on.....use your imagination

    All that is possible because everything is working together in synergy. And none of that is possible on the iPhone.

    Androids will always DO MORE for the reasons I listed above. For the iPhone, its just a computer with lots of seperate applications. And it does it damn well. Android is more of a complete mobile powerhouse that not only has apps, but has the ability to bend over backwards for you to customize it however you want. ROMS and skins are availible to completely change the look and feel of Android if you want. Ever notice how every iPhone looks the exact same? Same SMS app...same homescreens? Not on Android. Google "Thunderbolt ROMS'....the choices are endless.

    I recommend the thunderbolt on VZW for a few reasons:
    Simultaneous voice/surf on 3G and 4G (take that ATT! lol)
    4G speeds (see below)
    Incredible camera & pretty good front one
    VZW's large 3G area
    40 Gigs of space
    Kickstand (Skype video conferencing is easier)
    Loud speakerphone


    You didnt mention which network you are on, but you have GOT to see these VZW 4G speeds. 3G speeds are around 2 megs per second in my area. AT&T in most areas is UP TO 6 megs per second as I have seen on the geek forums. Now look at this....and this is no mistake man:

    216371_1770807108878_1200240068_31599276

    Yeah, almost 28 megs per second to your phone. I have seen as high as 49. I have never seen less than 15 megs per second, ever. Verizon has done its 4G network up so well it puts all the other ones to shame. My home internet is only 20 megs per second....

    I must say, that does come at a cost of battery. I am lucky to see 9 hours per day.

    You wont see anywhere near those speeds on any iPhone or any non-VZW 4G enabled smartphones, but if you are just checking facebook and RJ, 3G will be fine, regardless of which network or phone you choose. Although I cant help try to steer you away from AT&T, they are continuously ranked the network with the lowest user satisfaction rate. It may be great in your area, but as a whole, it lacks.

    If you want, I can go into network details for each AT&T and Verizon and explain why Verizon drops less calls etc (comes down to the CDMA technology), but for now, I hope I have helped, and I am sorry for getting off on this rant. Cell phones are my speciality. If you have any questions for me, PM me.

    PS. All networks give you at least 14 days to test out the network and phone....try em both!!

    Tyler






  • Anto

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    Jun 26, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
    Android is a lot more open and has more options and customization capability. For example you can skin your ui differently or have different kinds of keyboards. You can't do this with Apple's iPhone because it breaks their control and branding. You can jailbreak your iPhone and then as an example custom skin it but then you've also invalidated the warranty for it. Also Apple still tries to control content on jailbroken iPhones. An example would be Toyota when they created a free custom skin for jailbroken iPhones, Apple 'asked' them to remove it and so they did.

    iPhone apps and content are vetted and controlled by Apple according to their own business needs and moral philosophies which has led to issues like censorship of app content or even removal of apps entirely. When you get an iPhone you are also chained to what Apple deems as appropriate for you to have on it when it involves apps or content that comes through apps.

    Steve Jobs Releases His 10 Commandments

    Apple’s Gay Culture Bans Don’t Make it ‘Moral' or 'Pure'

    Apple Rejects Gay-Sightseeing App Over Gay Sights

    Jobs Rewrites History About Apple Ban on Satire

    Apple Bans the Word 'Android' From App Store

    Also on the iPhone you are stuck with their built-in web rendering engine. Even if other companies publish web browsing apps through the Apple app store, they are still dependent on Apple's built-in web rendering engine unless they do something like having the app be an interface to their own servers where content is pre-rendered/processed before being sent to you, sort of like acting like a middle man between you and the internet (example Opera Mini for iPhone). This isn't a problem on Android. Android has it's own built in web rendering engine as well but for example you can install the mobile version of Firefox for Android and it will use it's own rendering engine (Gecko), the same one used in the desktop version.

    Here is Mozilla's explanation about why it can't port full Firefox to Apple's iOS platform:
    About Firefox for Mobile iPhone/iPad/iPod
    We have no plans to release the full Firefox browser for iOS. The iOS SDK agreement requires apps to use Apple's own JavaScript engine (or none at all, like Opera Mini which downloads pre-rendered pages from Opera's servers and cannot run JavaScript code in the client). Because of this, we have no supported way to distribute Firefox's rendering and JavaScript engine to iPhone users.


    Apple also doesn't allow apps with access to it's web rendering engine (like web browser apps) to have the same optimization and performance as it's own mobile Safari web browser:
    Apple confirms some WebKit optimizations unavailable to iOS Apps

    Flash is supported on Android, it's not allowed on iOS platform (iTouch/phone/pad).
    People will probably say 'HTML5' is the answer and Flash is bad but then there are studies and examples like below and it doesn't really matter in the end if the content you want to look at is made with Flash after all.
    GUIMark 3 – Mobile Showdown [Flash vs HTML5 comparison]



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    Jun 26, 2011 1:51 PM GMT
    Regarding 3G versus 4G - In my case, I almost never use apps on my iPhone where that would matter since getting an iPad. As soon as a 4G iPad is out, I'll get that ASAP.
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    Jun 26, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    Those links about HTML5 were a real eye-opener. I do wonder, though, if there's a cost, in terms of battery life, for Flash's greater performance. On my MacBook, embedded Flash video content really ramps up the fan speed.
  • squash4dave

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    Jun 26, 2011 9:44 PM GMT
    Metro PCS also has 4G available. I don't know how it compares to Verizon, but I've read that it is pretty good. Also, you can get an unlocked Thunderbolt through Amazon for something like around $170.00, so it should be usable on Metro. Their monthly fee is $50 or $60, depending on your plan, but you get unlimited calling and texting. There is no contract and the fee includes taxes. The only extra fee is if you pay your bill through your phone ($3), or online (no charge). I have several friends who use them, and are happy with their service, but they do not have 4G, yet. So, this is another option to consider.
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    Jun 26, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
    I am on my Second Android .. Droid 2 Global. Upgraded for international travel. Using Verizon.
    If anyone wants to start with an Android on Verizon, I have a Droid 2 available.

    Upgraded my MiFi to 4G as well. So I have a 3G MiFi on Verizon as well available.

    I like the speed of the 4G. I benefit that work pays for my bill! icon_smile.gif
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    squash4dave saidMetro PCS also has 4G available. I don't know how it compares to Verizon, but I've read that it is pretty good. Also, you can get an unlocked Thunderbolt through Amazon for something like around $170.00, so it should be usable on Metro. Their monthly fee is $50 or $60, depending on your plan, but you get unlimited calling and texting. There is no contract and the fee includes taxes. The only extra fee is if you pay your bill through your phone ($3), or online (no charge). I have several friends who use them, and are happy with their service, but they do not have 4G, yet. So, this is another option to consider.


    The LTE Metro uses is not compatible with any phone Verizon sells, thanks to Verizon's locked SIM card policy and different bands utilized.
  • squash4dave

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    Jun 27, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    Thanks for the info. Any knowledge of the Samsung 4G phones that Metro uses?
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    Jun 27, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    Symbian, not as pretty as the other two but its so much more solid. Give Android a couple of years to catch up. The fact Android releasing new software update everything 4 5 months proof its unstable and buggies, have to many to fixed and added
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Jun 27, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
    alastiar saidSymbian, not as pretty as the other two but its so much more solid. Give Android a couple of years to catch up. The fact Android releasing new software update everything 4 5 months proof its unstable and buggies, have to many to fixed and added


    agreed. iphone.
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    Jun 27, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
    I just traded my HTC thunderbolt for an iPhone 4 which seems crazy but the truth is, android is just not there yet, its buggy and laggy and overall it feels like you're on a nightly dev of a linux distro, everything's a little wishy washy and there is no polish. Sure the gigantic screen was great but the battery life was abysmal, 4G LTE is phenomenal though, I do miss that.
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    Jun 27, 2011 4:35 AM GMT
    It's quite simple actually. Both Android and Apple have their fanboys and both will make their arguments as to why their ecosystem is better. But you need to ask yourself which system is right for you, and only you.

    So here's my suggestion. Read Trocks979's response. If you did not read through the entire thread, get an iPhone. If you read through the whole thread, and went "WTF?", get an iPhone. If you read through the whole thing and agreed or liked what he had to say, get an Android based phone.

    Here's an alternative test. On your personal computer, if you just use Windows for e-mail, internet, MS Office, a few games, etc, and the most you ever customize your machine is by changing your wallpaper, get an iPhone. But if you download and constantly change your themes, are a power user, or even run a distro of linux elsewhere, get an Android.

    Both mobile operating systems are strong in their own right, but you need to pick what's right for you. Everything that was said is find and dandy.....only if you care for those features.