The American Police State is the 'New Normal'

  • free_mind12

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    Jun 26, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
    I told you so....

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:32 PM GMT
    If you want to be a successful criminal, find a job in law enforcement.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:38 PM GMT
    Huge broken link is huge.

    Try this: http://tinyurl.com/5wzt8od
  • TheIStrat

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    If it were really a police state, that 72 year old woman would not have been given $40,000 in damages. She would have simply been shot and buried.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    Actually $40,000 is nothing. 50,000 volts through the heart of a 72 year old woman could've easily killed her. Was anyone involved tried for attempted murder? Nope.

    I know I feel a lot safer knowing that officers are actively pursuing those rowdy senior citizens and grocery store shoplifters.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidIf it were really a police state, that 72 year old woman would not have been given $40,000 in damages. She would have simply been shot and buried.


    LOL. Funny, but also QFT.
  • Aquanerd

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    Jun 26, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
    Yup, these 6 instances prove it's finally 1984. icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    When officers blatantly abuse their police power and are not punished for it, it only serves to further incite public contempt for police. This is big government at its worst.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    iRaptor saidWhen officers blatantly abuse their police power and are not punished for it, it only serves to further incite public contempt for police. This is big government at its worst.

    Big government has nothing to do with it: it's conservative versus liberal government. Police oppression is the the tactic of the Right, not the Left.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    iRaptor saidWhen officers blatantly abuse their police power and are not punished for it, it only serves to further incite public contempt for police. This is big government at its worst.

    Big government has nothing to do with it: it's conservative versus liberal government. Police oppression is the the tactic of the Right, not the Left.


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    Jun 26, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
    Police oppression is a tactic of extremist governments, right or left, and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, dishonest, or both.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidPolice oppression is a tactic of extremist governments, right or left, and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, dishonest, or both.


    Absolutely correct.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
    Despite party affiliations, it is up to all of us to fight such injustice. Supposedly, we the people are the masters of our government and not the other way around.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:54 PM GMT
    Just terrible, of course. I've long since developed a fear of those who are assigned to "protect" us.
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    Jun 26, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    iRaptor saidWhen officers blatantly abuse their police power and are not punished for it, it only serves to further incite public contempt for police. This is big government at its worst.

    Big government has nothing to do with it: it's conservative versus liberal government. Police oppression is the the tactic of the Right, not the Left.


    Oh, please.

    And remember the "Don't Taze Me Bro!" boy? At whose speaking venue was he making that ruction at?




    Oh yeah, Former Sen. John Kerry, a big government statist from the party of the left.

    The authoritarian Police state is neither right nor left. It is about power, and suppressing those whose ideas and actions threaten its power brokers.




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    Jun 26, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    These lofty, high-minded and judgemental statements are very easy to spout from the comfort of your armchair. The police are mostly ordinary people doing a difficult job. Sometimes they get it wrong.

    The Yahoo News article is blatantly high on drama and rather economical on detail.
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    Jun 26, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidThese lofty, high-minded and judgemental statements are very easy to spout from the comfort of your armchair. The police are mostly ordinary people doing a difficult job. Sometimes they get it wrong.

    The Yahoo News article is blatantly high on drama and rather economical with the facts.


    YES! Mil8 is EXACTLY right, folks! The police have a difficult job of brutally beating and tasering people they know pose minimal threat to themselves or society, such as 80 year old grandmas. In fact, we should be thanking them, because in such instances, they're probably just trying to PRE-fibrilate their hearts for when they eventually have a heart attack.

    Besides, what greater deterrent is there than when potential criminals see police detaining and abusing innocent people merely for asserting their rights? It seems like wherever we look, radical elements are bent on destroying the established order and the rule of law, and the authorities cannot regain control unless we allow them to use necessary force to beat such anarchists into submission! I'm sure the police understand when it's inappropriate to use a taser - like when the batteries are dead.
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    Jun 26, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
    iRaptor said
    Mil8 saidThese lofty, high-minded and judgemental statements are very easy to spout from the comfort of your armchair. The police are mostly ordinary people doing a difficult job. Sometimes they get it wrong.

    The Yahoo News article is blatantly high on drama and rather economical with the facts.


    YES! Mil8 is EXACTLY right, folks! The police have a difficult job of brutally beating and tasering people they know pose minimal threat to themselves or society, such as 80 year old grandmas. In fact, we should be thanking them, because in such instances, they're probably just trying to PRE-fibrilate their hearts for when they eventually have a heart attack.

    Besides, what greater deterrent is there than when potential criminals see police detaining and abusing innocent people merely for asserting their rights? It seems like wherever we look, radical elements are bent on destroying the established order and the rule of law, and the authorities cannot regain control unless we allow them to use necessary force to beat such anarchists into submission! I'm sure the police understand when it's inappropriate to use a taser - like when the batteries are dead.

    He did use the qualifiers, "sometimes" and "mostly". Not all cops are dicks, but unfortunately a lot of them are and they make it harder on the cops who are trying to be good guys. Unfortunately, Americans, in general are too lazy. They want to elect people into office and then let them answer to no one but themselves, instead of having to answer to the American people. Government is broken and it is our own damned fault.

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    And, the politicians know they have our asses in the air, because we are too damned busy blaming the other side of the aisle to worry about taking our grievances where they need to be.
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    Jun 26, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
    iRaptor saidYES! Mil8 is EXACTLY right, folks! The police have a difficult job of brutally beating and tasering people they know pose minimal threat to themselves or society, such as 80 year old grandmas. In fact, we should be thanking them, because in such instances, they're probably just trying to PRE-fibrilate their hearts for when they eventually have a heart attack.

    Besides, what greater deterrent is there than when potential criminals see police detaining and abusing innocent people merely for asserting their rights? It seems like wherever we look, radical elements are bent on destroying the established order and the rule of law, and the authorities cannot regain control unless we allow them to use necessary force to beat such anarchists into submission! I'm sure the police understand when it's inappropriate to use a taser - like when the batteries are dead.


    You managed to be even more melodramatic than the Yahoo 'news' article. Well done.
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    Jun 26, 2011 9:46 PM GMT
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    socalfitness saidPolice oppression is a tactic of extremist governments, right or left, and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, dishonest, or both.


    Absolutely correct.


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    Jun 26, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidHuge broken link is huge.

    Try this: http://tinyurl.com/5wzt8od


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    Jun 26, 2011 10:34 PM GMT
    If the government really wanted to spy on you, they wouldn't have to confiscate your computer or extract information from your cell phone during a traffic stop. They would only have to do a search on you and all the personal information you voluntarily put out there.
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    Jun 26, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidPolice oppression is a tactic of extremist governments, right or left, and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, dishonest, or both.


    Police oppression is a hallmark of right-wing government. As usual, you conflate an economic system with a political one. A police state cannot - by its very definition - be left wing. It can have a centrally planned economy but that doesn't change the political make up of the state.
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    Jun 26, 2011 11:37 PM GMT
    I have to say that Synchronicity is my favorite Police album.
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    Jun 26, 2011 11:51 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidPolice oppression is a tactic of extremist governments, right or left, and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant, dishonest, or both.


    Police oppression is a hallmark of right-wing government. As usual, you conflate an economic system with a political one. A police state cannot - by its very definition - be left wing. It can have a centrally planned economy but that doesn't change the political make up of the state.

    Some reading for you:
    http://state.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main_e.pl?r=243
    "Communists are part of the Left Center wing." Prior to Gorbachev, the USSR was considered a police state. You may have your own definition of left-wing to mean happy people, all happily sharing, as in the kibbutz or the Oneida colony. If that is your definition, then you would be correct.