Maddow On Gay Marriage Passage In New York: 'President Obama Is Against What Just Happened'

  • free_mind12

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    Jun 26, 2011 12:30 PM GMT
    Of course he is most in the African-American community are for very complex and some not so complex reasons-the irony
    He swooping in to make it look like his influence counted is just a gross attempt of manipulation.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/24/maddow-on-gay-marriage-new-york-obama_n_884444.html
  • TheIStrat

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:33 PM GMT
    I think he's too busy trying to stop the economy from imploding August 3rd right now to spend a lot of time thinking about gay marriage.
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:36 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidI think he's too busy improving his golf game right now to spend a lot of time thinking about gay marriage.


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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    I admire Rachel Maddow at times, as I do think she is a talented anchor for what she does, however other times I find her smugness nauseating. Just because Obama's personal belief may be that marriage is defined as something between a man and a woman does NOT mean that he is against legislation that gays be allowed to marry. I find it disappointing that this sort of criticism of Obama is coming from a high-profile gay such as Rachel Maddow. Some gays just insist at looking at the glass half empty.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jun 26, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    I think it's just added political pressure. She's saying what many are saying. "Evolve already."
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    Jun 26, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI admire Rachel Maddow at times, as I do think she is a talented anchor for what she does, however other times I find her smugness nauseating. Just because Obama's personal belief may be that marriage is defined as something between a man and a woman does NOT mean that he is against legislation that gays be allowed to marry. I find it disappointing that this sort of criticism of Obama is coming from a high-profile gay such as Rachel Maddow. Some gays just insist at looking at the glass half empty.


    I am no fan of Maddow at all. I really dislike her on a lot of levels. But she does bring a valid point. One this one issue, Obama has been pretty consistent. Which is of course his right. But, I think gays apologizing for him is not really necessary.
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    Jun 26, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidI think he's too busy trying to stop the economy from imploding August 3rd right now to spend a lot of time thinking about gay marriage.

    If a leader can't chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, he should not be a leader. It is his job to be considerate of multiple issues at any given time.
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    Jun 26, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    BeingThePhoenix said
    TheIStrat saidI think he's too busy trying to stop the economy from imploding August 3rd right now to spend a lot of time thinking about gay marriage.

    If a leader can't chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, he should not be a leader. It is his job to be considerate of multiple issues at any given time.

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    Jun 26, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidI think it's just added political pressure. She's saying what many are saying. "Evolve already."

    QFT
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
    I checked his website. No evolving today.
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    Jun 26, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    While I would like to see President Obama come right out and say he is for marriage equality, he is entitled to his own personal opinion, which as moved towards that tenet since the beginning of his presidency. I believe him when he says that gays and lesbians should have the same rights and benefits that straight folks do, that in and of itself does not equal marriage equality. Politically, he did what he should have done under the circumstances. And lest we forget that even on here, there are gay men who DO NOT want us to have marriage equality. Why? Because it is about that word-marriage. However, this fight is simply about having the right to choose to marry or not as the straight folks do.
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    Jun 26, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    Mr. Obama should be able "to walk and chew gum" at the same time, but the priority probably should be on walking the government back from the brink of an unprecedented economic disaster that looms in the form of defaulting on our debt, than making great justice for an issue that is somewhat parochial in the eyes of 95% of the population that is supposedly straight.

    And the other thing being that while the POTUS has a "bully pulpit" to speak concerning issues of potential interest to his re-election (yes, I'm being cynical) ... any legislation to repeal DOMA and specifically enshrine recognition and protection of marriage equality as federal law starts in the Congress, not at Mr. Obama's desk. Though ultimately, it may end there. icon_smile.gif

    Until then, it remains a state's right to determine (not accounting for any unlikely actions of the SCOTUS to interpret the Constitution as affording equal rights to marriage for all Americans).

    That said, NY State passing its marriage equality law will no doubt add considerable moral momentum to marriage equality in many more states.