Im tired of trying to get my calves to grow...

  • brendanmuscle...

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    Jun 28, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    So i have small calves. about 15.5 inches, to be precise, unpumped.

    And i have big arms, about 19.2 inches on the left arm and 18.7 on the right arms- unpumped

    My calves are VERY SMALL for the rest of me. They are only average in size compared to the average person. The strength i have in them too is nothing to write home about,.

    I train them frequently - every 3 days, very hard. It seems to have helped them to grow 1.5 inches in the past 18 months

    They say a bodybuilder's calves should be the same size as the arms and neck, give or take 1 inche. My neck is quite large (i train it too) at 19.5 inches. But my calves are so below my arms and neck- i am just tired of bothering!

    is there ANYTHING i can do that anyone would recommend? i wont do implants, thats just stupid i want real muscle

    And also with the size of my quads, they look funny there too since my quads are 27"

    there was a guy i saw in the gym today who probably had 19 inch calves- he was pretty hot- early 20s ide say. He was doing 270 on the seated calf raise with OK form! if i tried that, ide plop the weight right down. Most i can do is 135, half of that. His arms were not as big as mine though, but still, this fustrates me severely

    My achilles tendon is very small- may this be a genetic reason too?
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    Jun 28, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    I'm in for advise on this too!!! Working calves hard and with a varied routine seems to make no difference. They just get stronger!
  • techmuscle

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    Jun 28, 2011 10:38 AM GMT
    Two things have helped me.

    First, do a super deep stretch for 90 secs on each calf every day. This is important and I gained an inch on my calves after starting to do that.

    Second, try doing a little lighter weight and much higher reps for a time. Like half the weight you use now and 40 reps for 3-4 sets. That is a good shocker.
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    Jun 28, 2011 11:15 AM GMT
    I have never trained my calves specifically until the past few weeks, they are around 16.5" cold.

    The only thing I do for mine is on the leg press, I put my toes on the bottom of the platform and drop my heels then press the weight using my calves. I don't particularly mind the size they are now though.

    I have heard calves are notoriously difficult muscles to grow, would it be the end of the world if they stayed as they are? The rest of your body is awesome.
  • bad_wolf

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    Jun 28, 2011 11:17 AM GMT
    I find a light jog between sets helps; because of the motion requried it's not primarily the legs which are in action but the calfs you bounce between the balls of your feet etc
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    Jun 28, 2011 11:21 AM GMT
    Brendan... Take it from me, you are perfect buddy... So what if you've got small calves. Some of us have bigger calves but muscles nowhere near yours icon_sad.gif
    You sexy guy ;)
  • Kwokpot

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    Jun 28, 2011 2:17 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Pure said[/cite]
    The only thing I do for mine is on the leg press, I put my toes on the bottom of the platform and drop my heels then press the weight using my calves. I don't particularly mind the size they are now though.

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    I do the same move, using about 270-290 lbs
    I also like using the vertical chest press machine and work the calves

    At 5'6", 142lbs, arms 13,13.5; calves 14.25;quads 21.25
  • wild_sky360

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    Jun 28, 2011 2:54 PM GMT
    Mine developed unintentionally from years of mountain hiking. Never worked them specifically. I always thought it was genetic, but looking at pictures when I was young and after taking up hiking/biking, later in life, I can see the difference.
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    Jun 28, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    Take up bicycling or hiking or rock climbing and give it a couple years.
    My calves still rock from bicycling several years ago.
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    Jun 28, 2011 4:04 PM GMT
    Tennis! Maybe 2-3 hours a week. I do nothing else for my calves or quads for that matter and I love the way they look.
  • squash4dave

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    Jun 28, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    I know the frustration. We have a squat machine at my gym, and I squat over 630 lbs, then I do calf raises after the squats, with those same weights. And I get no improvement. I also do seated calf raises. Plus, the inner portion of my right calf is atrophied, and I don't know what happened. No injury, but possibly nerve damage? Can't think of anything else. They look fit, but just small. Any tips?

    And Brendan, you look pretty damn perfect to me. But, I guess nobody is ever satisfied.
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    Jun 28, 2011 4:10 PM GMT
    My weight training coach in high school said calves and forearms are not like other muscles. He said some dudes have to work ridiculously hard to get even slight growth, and others will never be able to get any growth at all.

    At first I didnt believe that, but take a look around. It may have some fact behind it.
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    Jun 28, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    Since I started doing them twice a week (on legs day and again on abs day) I can see improvement - it works out to be about 2 or 3 days between each calve workout.
    btw What's your arm workout?
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    Jun 28, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
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    Jun 28, 2011 4:25 PM GMT
    16.5, here, but like Wildsky and Paulflex had noted I developed them through years of running, hiking, and Mt. Biking. Many time I would trade some of my meat on my calves for bigger upper body..lol
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    Jun 28, 2011 7:18 PM GMT
    I train calves every second day.

    3 Normal sets of seated or standing calf raises. for 10-12 at high weight.

    But then I do a drop set of about 40, halve the weight every 10 reps. This works great on a leg press machine with a weight stack (I start at about 270 kg), or on the seated calf machine with a buddy to take a weight off every 10 reps. Always gives a fantastic burn and I end up limping afterwards.

    Been told variety (Weight and reps) is the key to building calves by buds of mine. Think they are probably right.
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    Jun 28, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
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    Hmmm...you might be onto something.
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    Jun 28, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    brendanmuscles saidSo i have small calves. about 15.5 inches, to be precise, unpumped.

    And i have big arms, about 19.2 inches on the left arm and 18.7 on the right arms- unpumped

    My calves are VERY SMALL for the rest of me. They are only average in size compared to the average person. The strength i have in them too is nothing to write home about,.

    I train them frequently - every 3 days, very hard. It seems to have helped them to grow 1.5 inches in the past 18 months

    They say a bodybuilder's calves should be the same size as the arms and neck, give or take 1 inche. My neck is quite large (i train it too) at 19.5 inches. But my calves are so below my arms and neck- i am just tired of bothering!

    is there ANYTHING i can do that anyone would recommend? i wont do implants, thats just stupid i want real muscle

    And also with the size of my quads, they look funny there too since my quads are 27"

    there was a guy i saw in the gym today who probably had 19 inch calves- he was pretty hot- early 20s ide say. He was doing 270 on the seated calf raise with OK form! if i tried that, ide plop the weight right down. Most i can do is 135, half of that. His arms were not as big as mine though, but still, this fustrates me severely

    My achilles tendon is very small- may this be a genetic reason too?




    OP? Are you putting the same care and attention to them as you do the rest of your body. SOmetimes. you may need to put a little more focus on them get them to really come put .. Stretch them and Nuture them and they will grow...Or Alas. might be genetics.
  • brendanmuscle...

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    Jun 29, 2011 12:08 AM GMT
    HavenJock80 said
    brendanmuscles saidSo i have small calves. about 15.5 inches, to be precise, unpumped.

    And i have big arms, about 19.2 inches on the left arm and 18.7 on the right arms- unpumped

    My calves are VERY SMALL for the rest of me. They are only average in size compared to the average person. The strength i have in them too is nothing to write home about,.

    I train them frequently - every 3 days, very hard. It seems to have helped them to grow 1.5 inches in the past 18 months

    They say a bodybuilder's calves should be the same size as the arms and neck, give or take 1 inche. My neck is quite large (i train it too) at 19.5 inches. But my calves are so below my arms and neck- i am just tired of bothering!

    is there ANYTHING i can do that anyone would recommend? i wont do implants, thats just stupid i want real muscle

    And also with the size of my quads, they look funny there too since my quads are 27"

    there was a guy i saw in the gym today who probably had 19 inch calves- he was pretty hot- early 20s ide say. He was doing 270 on the seated calf raise with OK form! if i tried that, ide plop the weight right down. Most i can do is 135, half of that. His arms were not as big as mine though, but still, this fustrates me severely

    My achilles tendon is very small- may this be a genetic reason too?




    OP? Are you putting the same care and attention to them as you do the rest of your body. SOmetimes. you may need to put a little more focus on them get them to really come put .. Stretch them and Nuture them and they will grow...Or Alas. might be genetics.


    YES Thats the thing MORE than the rest of my body and thats whats pissing me off

    i train calves 2 hours a week

    i train my arms about 90 minutes only per week

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    Jun 29, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
    LOL. I'm the opposite. My calves are big and my arms are small.

    Look, don't waste your time doing calf raises on those machines. They suck. If you want your calves to grow, implement some high rep exercises. Pick 2 or 3 exercises below. And switch it up the following week with 2 or 3 different exercises.

    - Stairclimber. Use a slow speed. Be sure to step with the balls of your feet. Don't step flat footed or on your heels.

    - Treadmill. Slow speed, slight incline. Start walking. Make contact with your heel and roll it forward, and push off with your toes. Get a full range of motion.

    - Walking calf raises. Grab a moderately heavy barbell and rest on the back of your shoulders. Start walking. Again, drive the heel to the ground, roll the foot forward, and push off with your toes.

    - If you're a runner and have access to the beach, try running on sand. It's an ass kicker, but it really works your calves.

    - "Calf raises" with the leg press machine. This is the only heavy calf exercise I do. Again, I load up enough weights to allow for a higher rep range, like 20 - 25. Place the balls of your feet on the edge of the platform. Slowly let the weight back and get a good stretch. Then push your toes forward and get a good flex. Try doing them at a faster pace, almost like you're trying to bounce the weights with the balls of your feet.

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    Jun 29, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    I ran, biked, and use vibrams.

    My calves aren't huge, but they are very defined. Maybe that will help?
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    Jun 29, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    In addition to what was already said, running hills, stairs/bleachers, or biking should help you train your calves.
    You could also look into shoes with a negative heel. I know b-ball players use them to increase their vertical leap.
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    Jun 29, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    I was blessed with crazy big calves (and little else in the genetics department).

    But my roommate, who's a beast all over, has relatively small calves. Usually he trains calves twice a week. The trick is variety. Every time he trains calves he does a different combo of exercises (seated calf raise, standing calf raise machine, smith machine standing on plates, leg press calf raises, etc).

    Try hitting them hard, 20 reps a set. Usually when we do calves, we do the bottom half of the rep (from low to parallel to the floor), then pause, then press the rest of the way up, and down. That's one rep.

    Between sets, we usually stand on stairs or plates nearby and do one-legged bodyweight calf raises, generally about 20 each time, getting a good deep stretch in on each one.

    So that's calves, twice a week. Two exercises each time. Mix 'em up.

    4 sets (each exercise) of 20 reps each. Do the reps in two segments, bottom to parallel, parallel to high, then down.

    Between sets, one-legged bodyweight reps on stairs or something. Keep the pace quick.

    Remember, you're on your feet all day long, so you have to drastically shock your calves to get results from them.

    My roomie always says if you trained your calves correctly, when you get out of your car after driving home from the gym, it should kinda hurt the first time you put your feet back on the ground.
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    Jun 29, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
    I'm with everybody else on low reps, switch it up every so often to shock your body. For me- I'm on a workout routine that does exactly that, and it's working. Now if it works for my biceps, my chest, etc. then it has to work out for your calves. I wish I could help, but I was also one of those people who were gifted with big tendons and calves. Good luck, Brendan.
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    Jun 29, 2011 10:55 PM GMT
    My calves are enormous and I do NOTHING to make them that way. As a matter of fact, people stop me all the time and ask what I do for them. It's very frustrating that the body parts I work the hardest on, nobody notices! I can only conclude it's genetics.