"It Gets Better" -- Inspirational video series for gay youth now features 13 Democratic US Senators

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    Jun 29, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/06/29/6974424-senators-tell-gay-kids-it-gets-better

    The "It Gets Better" web site might be a good one to recommend to young GLBT who are troubled and persecuted over their orientation:

    http://www.itgetsbetter.org/
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    Jun 29, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
    colboy saidThe thing I like about the Democratic party is how they promote that it's ok to be different and everyone deserves a chance at living well despite being in a bad situation. Fuck everything about "traditional" beliefs. Republicans are elitist fucktards. /rant


    I could not have said this better myself. Thank you.

    Thank you Art_Deco for sharing this and I'm kinda disappointed (and I know you would agree with me here) that our own Democratic Senator, Bill Nelson, was not a part of this.
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    Jun 29, 2011 10:08 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidThank you Art_Deco for sharing this and I'm kinda disappointed (and I know you would agree with me here) that our own Democratic Senator, Bill Nelson, was not a part of this.

    You're very welcome, and most kind of you. Senator Nelson (D) is in a very red State that's a stronghold of angry old "get off my lawn!" White male Teabaggers. We have a crook for a Governor, as you know, who was part of that ultra secret conclave with the Koch brothers this past weekend.

    Nelson must tred lightly for political reasons. Better we keep him in the US Senate for his vote than lose him for his voice in matters like this, important as they are. Others outside this State are speaking the words Florida Republicans & Teabaggers will not tolerate from him, on behalf of vulnerable gay youth.
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    Jun 29, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    Am I the only one here who gets a little teary eyed when watching some of these videos?

    Sports teams, are the latest to join in and I find the whole thing to be simply amazing and long overdue.
  • Anto

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    Jun 30, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
    Depends. I know if I had seen the IGB campaign when I was first dealing with being gay I would have felt happy for other people but felt it wasn't applicable to my particular situation. They need to address the reality of being gay and coming out. It doesn't necessarily mean it will get better or in ways a person wants it too. People don't miraculously stop making life hard or difficult for gay people outside of school. Just look at the fact that the validity of gay marriage is debated or even of homosexuality itself. Apple has banned gay themed apps before or forced the censoring of gay content in apps (only reversing it after bad publicity) or not including certain pro-gay marriage statements from Lady Gaga. Gay characters in movies/tv are cool - as long as they are the stereotype. ETC. We are constantly being bombarded by messages that it's not ok to be gay or that it's bad/questionable in some way. It doesn't stop after school.

    The IGB campaign needs more practical substance in it instead of people in better situations telling people who aren't, 'Hey it gets better!'

    It's like people who have found jobs making a video about how it gets better for people who haven't found any jobs or who's type of careers or jobs they once had are no longer needed.

    The link below refers to a study which shows that it depends on the environment a person is in as to whether it actually does 'get better'.

    'It gets better,' but only if you're in a supportive environment, study findsIt turned out that the more that students were out, the less angry and depressed they were and the higher their self-esteem, but only if they were in supportive environments. In controlling environments, coming out was not associated with any of these benefits.


    I also think politicians should stay out of it because it just looks like they are pandering and drags politics into it.

    Is “It Gets Better” officially useless?But we’ve also seen head-scratchers, like the videos from the cast of House, 90210 star Trevor Donovan (whose gay character was just cut from the series) and Zachary Qunito, who has famously dodged questions about his sexuality.

    And now professional sports franchises like the Mariners, Red Sox and San Francisco Giants are releasing IGB videos. While the positive gesture is appreciated, we can’t help but wonder if the message is getting lost.


    I agree with this comment:
    "“It gets better.” How? Adult gays face the same issues that teens do. It’s in the news everyday. Let’s find something reassuring to tell these kids that isn’t just a blatent lie."
  • NerdLifter

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    Jul 01, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    I used to think: these videos are great, then upon reflection and other people's comments on the videos, I have to agree with the following stance:

    These passive videos are better than nothing, but does very little for those who are most at risk: kids with zero safety nets that feel they have no where else to turn.

    In this particular video, one of the senator's tells kids to tell their parents or if they can't do that at least a school official if someone is bullying them. Usually if the kid hasn't done so already, it is because the teachers are themselves the abuser or just ignore the problem, and the parents will react highly negatively to knowing their child is gay.

    We need a much more active message and program for these kids.

    I do not want to seem like a basher of these videos, as I said, they are better than nothing, and do send a positive message. But for the kids most at risk for suicide, they don't do enough.
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    Jul 01, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    i think these videos do matter and make a difference in a number of different ways. if even one kid living without a support networks sees one on the internet and it helps him or her power through tough times, it's worth it. are there other things people could be doing to help that kid or any number of other people out there? sure. but there's no down side to these videos.

    also, having Senators and baseball teams do them, especially on the MLB website, GO SOX! (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16452895), educates people and puts gay people one step closer to just being like everyone else.

    i don't want special rights, i just want equal rights. and i think that a lot of people who oppose giving me those equal rights do so because they don't know any gay people or how their stance affects me. sure, some people still won't care and will choose to oppose equality and some people will still bully and beat up gay kids.

    but the goal is to have a majority, hopefully a vast majority, that supports equal rights regardless of sexual orientation so we can all just be left alone to live our lives like any other American - work, play, pay taxes, marry, raise families, etc.

    besides, it does get better.
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    Jul 01, 2011 5:02 PM GMT
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    Studinprogress saidI used to think: these videos are great, then upon reflection and other people's comments on the videos, I have to agree with the following stance:

    These passive videos are better than nothing, but does very little for those who are most at risk: kids with zero safety nets that feel they have no where else to turn.

    In this particular video, one of the senator's tells kids to tell their parents or if they can't do that at least a school official if someone is bullying them. Usually if the kid hasn't done so already, it is because the teachers are themselves the abuser or just ignore the problem, and the parents will react highly negatively to knowing their child is gay.

    We need a much more active message and program for these kids.

    I do not want to seem like a basher of these videos, as I said, they are better than nothing, and do send a positive message. But for the kids most at risk for suicide, they don't do enough.



    is that it? I rather they don't shit at all. instead of doing this little feel good videos, why don't we take time to make safety nets for these kids? Also I really doubt that when celebs do these videos, the gay kids would really take them seriously.


    one step at a time. You cant change other's way of thinking over fucking night, first you have to deliver a message so that they understand why the change is coming and why they are so wrong. You are dealing with people here not fucking bots.
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    Jul 01, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
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    skykey said
    Studinprogress saidI used to think: these videos are great, then upon reflection and other people's comments on the videos, I have to agree with the following stance:

    These passive videos are better than nothing, but does very little for those who are most at risk: kids with zero safety nets that feel they have no where else to turn.

    In this particular video, one of the senator's tells kids to tell their parents or if they can't do that at least a school official if someone is bullying them. Usually if the kid hasn't done so already, it is because the teachers are themselves the abuser or just ignore the problem, and the parents will react highly negatively to knowing their child is gay.

    We need a much more active message and program for these kids.

    I do not want to seem like a basher of these videos, as I said, they are better than nothing, and do send a positive message. But for the kids most at risk for suicide, they don't do enough.



    is that it? I rather they don't shit at all. instead of doing this little feel good videos, why don't we take time to make safety nets for these kids? Also I really doubt that when celebs do these videos, the gay kids would really take them seriously.


    one step at a time. You cant change other's way of thinking over fucking night, first you have to deliver a message so that they understand why the change is coming and why they are so wrong. You are dealing with people here not fucking bots.


    Agreed. And you have to remember these videos were originally designed for kids who are on the verge of suicide. If a video helps stop just one alienated kid from killing himself then they are well worth it.
  • NerdLifter

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    Jul 01, 2011 6:51 PM GMT
    Just to reiterate, I feel these videos are important and send a very positive important message. I'm only saying there still needs a whole lot more done than just these videos; they are a start, but definitely not an end.
  • Anto

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    Jul 01, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    Just to reiterate a recent study since people seem to be missing it pointed out earlier:
    'It gets better,' but only if you're in a supportive environment, study findsIt turned out that the more that students were out, the less angry and depressed they were and the higher their self-esteem, but only if they were in supportive environments. In controlling environments, coming out was not associated with any of these benefits.