Broke: Minnesota Govt Shuts Down

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    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/124824189.html
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    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    Yes SB !! by all means, suggest some of what Clinton did in cooperation with moderate republicans to this current 'party of no' and put those taxes back where they were, so we may again see such job creating prosperous times.

    We'd have a deal on the debt reduction tomorrow if you could convince that bunch to go back to Clinton era taxes levels. I'm all for it, LOL !!!!
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    Jul 01, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    Jul 01, 2011 1:45 PM GMT
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    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    You truly are not too bright.

    The Republicans control the House of Representatives. That is one of the two chambers in Congress. The Democrats control the higher chamber, otherwise known as the Senate.




    and the GOP, "the party of NO" has truly done their level best to block any and all moves by the democrats to get us out of the mess brought on by past GOP Presidents.

    southbeach jane, you ignorant bitch....you call ME "truly not too bright"??


    BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


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    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.
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    Jul 01, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]mocktwinkie said...
    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation. [/quote]



    yeh rite...the USA has experienced "business friendly" regulations and economic conditions for...how many years now? longer than some RJers have been alive!


    and how's that "Trickle Down" economics plan worked out for the USA?




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    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.


    The issue is no one can create a healthy enough environment for business. Why do you think all the jobs went to Mexico/India/China?
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    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.


    The issue is no one can create a healthy enough environment for business. Why do you think all the jobs went to Mexico/India/China?


    Yes you can create a pro-job climate for businesses.

    And on your second question, you know the answer to that!
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    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.


    The issue is no one can create a healthy enough environment for business. Why do you think all the jobs went to Mexico/India/China?


    Yes you can create a pro-job climate for businesses.

    And on your second question, you know the answer to that!


    Your right I do know the answer! So CEO's can give themselves raises! Why would they keep jobs in America when they could go to another country and pay people peanuts.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.


    The issue is no one can create a healthy enough environment for business. Why do you think all the jobs went to Mexico/India/China?


    Yes you can create a pro-job climate for businesses.

    And on your second question, you know the answer to that!


    Your right I do know the answer! So CEO's can give themselves raises! Why would they keep jobs in America when they could go to another country and pay people peanuts.


    That started happening because unions drove businesses out through their demands and so rather than ending up with less pay they ended up with less jobs.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.


    The issue is no one can create a healthy enough environment for business. Why do you think all the jobs went to Mexico/India/China?


    Yes you can create a pro-job climate for businesses.

    And on your second question, you know the answer to that!


    Your right I do know the answer! So CEO's can give themselves raises! Why would they keep jobs in America when they could go to another country and pay people peanuts.


    That started happening because unions drove businesses out through their demands and so rather than ending up with less pay they ended up with less jobs.


    Wrong again buddy, It had less to do with unions and more to do with workers wanting safer working conditions and decent pay. Corporations decided they were better off having their stuff made in places where the factors can be unsafe and they can pay people next to nothing.
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    Jul 01, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    Actually Mock, the phone co here opened customer service offices in the Phillipines where the going wage there is 143,000 pesos a year. When you call customer service here it routes to the Quezon City office.

    That translates to a little over 3,000 Canadian dollars a year for a 40 hour work week. No one in Canada could hope to survive on such a tiny income.


    http://www.lse.co.uk/currency-converter.asp
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    Jul 01, 2011 3:03 PM GMT
    Perhaps they should take a page out of the Wisconsin handbook and have
    some special elections to relieve the state legislature of some of the troublesome republicans......
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    Jul 01, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]DoomsDayAlpaca said.....started happening because unions drove businesses out through their demands and so rather than ending up with less pay they ended up with less jobs.

    Wrong again buddy, It had less to do with unions and more to do with workers wanting safer working conditions and decent pay. Corporations decided they were better off having their stuff made in places where the factors can be unsafe and they can pay people next to nothing.[/quote]


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  • GQjock

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    Jul 01, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    Aaaah Republican obstructionism on a smaller scale going on there in Minn

    The Governor had already signed on for some cuts in programs in his stae but also called for revenuer increases principally from the wealthiest

    Hmmmmmmmm.......... Sound somewhat familiar????

    But again the republican legislature
    Did their Nuh uh No Way

    To the point of closing down the govt

    When you turn around it's 1995 again ...... Hey NEWT they're up to your old tricks icon_cool.gif
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    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/
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    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.
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    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.
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    Jul 01, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?

    Ask anyone here, including liberals if the government can create jobs in the private sector and I guarantee you, if they know anything about anything, they will tell you "NO".
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    Jul 01, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?





    UH-UH.
    Check back to your original comment.
    Your ACTUAL claim was that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in "job creation".

    So - PROVE IT!

    BTW - Bush Jr. pushed extremely pro business policies and he has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/
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    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
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    mocktwinkie said
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    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?





    UH-UH.
    Check back to your original comment.
    Your ACTUAL claim was that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in "job creation".

    So - PROVE IT!

    BTW - Bush Jr. pushed extremely pro business policies and he has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    It's the only thing that CAN be done to encourage job creation. There is never a guarantee that jobs will be created. Why? Because governments CANNOT create private sector jobs, they can only try to make the climate healthy for job growth. I have stated this many times and in many threads throughout discussions on this issue.
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    Jul 01, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
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    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?

    Ask anyone here, including liberals if the government can create jobs in the private sector and I guarantee you, if they know anything about anything, they will tell you "NO".




    YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.
    The claim of yours that is in question is your claim that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in job creation.
    THAT is the unproveable right-wing BS talking point that you posted.

    I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CREATING JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
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    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
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    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?





    UH-UH.
    Check back to your original comment.
    Your ACTUAL claim was that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in "job creation".

    So - PROVE IT!

    BTW - Bush Jr. pushed extremely pro business policies and he has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    It's the only thing that CAN be done to encourage job creation. There is never a guarantee that jobs will be created. Why? Because governments CANNOT create private sector jobs, they can only try to make the climate healthy for job growth. I have stated this many times and in many threads throughout discussions on this issue.




    In other words, YOU CAN'T PROVE IT.
    And even though it can't be proven and the recent history of the failed PRO BUSINESS Bush presidency shows that pushing pro business policies DOES NOT create strong job growth - you STILL believe and push the same bogus right-wing talking point!
    Even though there is no proof or proven track record to back it up!

    You have been well brainwashed by the pro-right-wing propaganda machine!
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    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



    icon_confused.gif


    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?

    Ask anyone here, including liberals if the government can create jobs in the private sector and I guarantee you, if they know anything about anything, they will tell you "NO".




    YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.
    The claim of yours that is in question is your claim that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in job creation.
    THAT is the unproveable right-wing BS talking point that you posted.

    I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CREATING JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.


    Then next time clarify what you're referring to when you tell me to provide "proof" for my comment. The nature of my remark did not even resemble anything to do with making a claim that job creation is like a law in accordance with a good business climate -- resorting to elementary caviling exercises just makes you look stupid. That being said, businesses will only hire when the climate is good for them, so your request for proof of this is just as farcical.
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    Jul 01, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rickrick91 said
    mocktwinkie said
    rnch said
    southbeach1500 saidIf that Democrat governor up there is smart, he'll go along with the Republicans. He should take a page out of President Clinton's book: When the Republicans control the legislature, go along with them and prosperity will soon follow.



    the GOP has had control of the U.S. congress for quite some time now....WHERE ARE THE PROMISED JOBS, GOP GUYS?



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    No party can create jobs unless you're referring to the government creating them as part of a government expansion program.

    The only thing that can be done otherwise is create a healthy environment for business which will in turn result in job creation.




    That's a BS right-wing talking point that's not supported by facts.
    George W. Bush implemented extremely pro business policies, but they didn't result in strong job growth.
    In fact, Bush Jr. has the worst record on job creation on record.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


    LOL! I think you just enjoy looking stupid because you think it's fun.

    My statement is a FACT, it isn't an idea or a talking point. Unless a government is creating jobs as part of a government program the government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. The private sector creates jobs and all we can do is make the climate healthy for job growth, we can't force jobs to be created.




    You obviously don't understand the difference between a talking point - aka an OPINION - and a FACT.
    A fact can be PROVEN.
    An opinion cannot.

    If you think you can PROVE the talking point you posted - go ahead and do it.
    POST PROOF.


    Elvis Presley existed, so did Marilyn Monroe, and government cannot "create" jobs in the private sector. Private sector jobs are created by the private sector and by businesses choosing to hire based on the climate and the condition of their business.

    What part of understanding this can you not find in the deep chasms of your brain?

    Ask anyone here, including liberals if the government can create jobs in the private sector and I guarantee you, if they know anything about anything, they will tell you "NO".




    YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.
    The claim of yours that is in question is your claim that creating a "healthy environment for business" will result in job creation.
    THAT is the unproveable right-wing BS talking point that you posted.

    I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CREATING JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.


    Rickrick, you are so right! I cannot prove that if tomorrow, businesses were taxed tenfold of what they are now that it would damage the job market. In fact, logic tells both of us that it would probably INCREASE job growth, right?

    You are so smart and enlightening!