Feds: CA school district failed to help gay teen

  • metta

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    Jul 02, 2011 5:56 PM GMT

    Feds: CA school district failed to help gay teen

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/07/01/national/a144944D25.DTL#ixzz1QyJhtSBn


    RIP Seth!

  • metta

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    Jul 02, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    Calif. School District Ordered to Address Harassment

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/07/02/Calif_School_District_Ordered_to_Address_Harassment/
  • GQjock

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    Jul 04, 2011 11:50 AM GMT
    That's It?

    Ordered to address harassment?
    The entire school board should be sacked and booted off the board
    Someone is dead because of their indifference
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
    That sucks. I just want to share my experience which is similar but with a better ending for those who want to know if there's hope out there...which there is.

    In high school I was miserable and harassed and teased a lot for being (the only out) gay. Sometimes I was followed home and then chased (though thank god I was fast at running and climbing). Eventually my mom, being the Goddess that she is, took everything into her own hands seeing that the school district couldn't guarantee my safety. She helped facilitate my transfer straight into college at 16, where I then spent 11th and 12th grade at full time. I was the only kid, and at first I thought it was because I was smart, but then I later learned it was also because I was gay. lol
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    She was right to sue the school board. If any of my children killed themselves because he/she identified as lgbt, then hell- I would have sued the school district, maybe set fire to the board members'/bullies' houses.

    Okay that's extreme, but I would be beyond pissed and devastated.
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
    I don't think the school was indifferent.

    What could they have done? Made daily announcements that bullying is wrong?

    Kids that age can be extremely difficult. The more you tell them NOT to do something, the more they want to do it.
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    GQjock saidThat's It?

    Ordered to address harassment?
    The entire school board should be sacked and booted off the board
    Someone is dead because of their indifference



    i agree teachers have a responsibility to make sure children are safe and control that environment. How did they not notice this child suffer. I can relate cause i was that sensitive kid at the time only difference is i fought back. Still rest in peace Seth.
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
    MenschPress saidI don't think the school was indifferent.

    What could they have done? Made daily announcements that bullying is wrong?

    Kids that age can be extremely difficult. The more you tell them NOT to do something, the more they want to do it.


    You create a culture that makes very clear that certain behaviors are not acceptable _and explain why_, you train the staff to be on the same page, and you make sure the building-level administrators _enforce_ it. Any break in that chain and yes, you can get a Lord of the Flies scenario. It can be done and has been done, but it takes real will on the part of the adults in a building/district.
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    Utter disgust and mourning....
  • tallguy86

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    Jul 04, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    Guys, I know this is going to piss some of you off but I don't think we should be firing school boards over issues like this. If someone is negligent then maybe action is required but generally speaking the school board is between a rock and a hard place.

    I understand that these are horrible situations and every time I hear a story like Seth's it breaks my heart. No child should ever feel so alone that suicide is an answer. EVER.

    That being said it almost seems like schools are becoming our scapegoat. So often the school is blamed for a child's death. Bullying will ALWAYS happen, no matter the rules. I am almost certain every last one of us have both been bullied and did some bullying as a child.

    It is unfortunate that teachers often get blamed (and yes I know they are not all wonderful people and some of them do turn a blind eye when they shouldn't). Most teachers genuinely care about their students but they also feel helpless. Yes they could step in and stop bullying...but only in the schools. What happens to these teachers when they do step in but the bullying moves out of school and gets more severe? How are the supposed to cope when they blame themselves for "not doing enough" and they find out the rest of the community blames them too.

    I do want to see bullying end, but you know what, realistically, it won't. What we need to do is make sure kids have a safe place and feel comfortable talk to an adult about their issues.

    TL;DR: Yes there needs to be some changes in schools, however we also need to worry about our communities, and society in general to make sure that children do not feel helpless. Support groups, community centres, anti-bullying campaigns, help lines, etc. The list goes on and we need to stop focusing on finding blame and spend time finding solutions.
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    Jul 04, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    Public schools everywhere fail to help kids learn.