Your first choice of protein.

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    Jul 04, 2011 12:19 AM GMT
    Most of us, especially if you lift a lot of weights, eat a lot of protein. What is your first choice of protein that you should consume if you're trying to gain muscle? I have heard so many things about this at the gym and personal trainers, nutritionists, doctors, all have different opinions. Some say fish is best, some say shellfish like scalops or shrimps, some say redmeat, some say whey, some say no animal proteins.....

    I am thoroughly confused. I aim to gain like another 20lbs (hopefully mostly muscles) by the end of this year. Is it doable? Is it an elusive dream? I gain weight pretty fast I would say.
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
    Well, protein is not protein. Try to consume lean meats, fish, egg whites, and nuts....anything with a complete amino acid profile.

    Bodybuilding.com has awesome articles about this stuff

    As far as whey, the best, hands down, is Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard....its about $45 bucks on Amazon for 70-something servings. Whey is fast-acting for times like after a workout, when timing is critical. After a workout, you need some carbs too with your protein, and items such as Cytosport Cytogainer combine protein with the carbs. Simple carbs suffice, but things like Waxy Maize are best.

    Like I said, bodybuilding.com has tons and I mean tons of articles...use the search man. You will be in information overload!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 04, 2011 4:17 AM GMT
    New York Steak or Prime Rib (medium rare)
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:23 AM GMT
    I have Optimum Nutrition. Good stuff and mixes well.
  • jeepguySD

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    Jul 04, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    Both whey and egg protein are complete proteins, meaning they contain all 8 of the essential amino acids that our bodies require, but do not manufacture on their own.

    I'm taking egg protein right now because it is lower calorie than most whey protein supplements and I'm trying to get leaner.

    There may be other complete proteins too, but I don't know which ones they are.
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    salmon.

    I eat raw salmon and blueberries all day. But my parents pay for that and I hear if you have to do it on your own its pretty expensive.......icon_redface.gif
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    kind of an off topic question about protein-- I'm trying to lose weight/get leaner--I started drinking a egg white protein powder(on the label it says 'promotes muscle growth')-- would that be counterintuitive to losing weight?
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:31 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Trocks797 said

    As far as whey, the best, hands down, is Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard....its about $45 bucks on Amazon for 70-something servings.


    Hey, Trocks. How many grams of protein are in one serving of ON 100% Whey Protein? Just curious as I may want to buy it.

    Thanks.


    24. 3 carbs and 1.5 fat if i recall. here is the link to it, http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=62(but buy from amazon, cheaper)

    and its insanely tastey
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:32 AM GMT
    See, the thing is that I eat a variety of protein right now. Since I am cutting I am focusing on mostly leaner proteins like shellfish chicken breasts, egg whites, etc. But I'm just wondering in order to have the most optimal cellular environment for muscle cell growth, what kind of protein do I need. I know that whey has like the highest bioavailability, but the problem with whey protein is that, they are expensive. I like isopure btw. I don't think it helps with muscle growth though...
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
    I looked at this, got alot of good information, but was hoping to see someone like Paulflexes to make his joke on this excellent oppurtunity!
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:38 AM GMT
    SPERM!!!! ha just kiddin icon_razz.gif but my drink is Shaklee Soy Protein icon_smile.gif I have drank this stuff for years! and thats why I am so slender icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    Trocks797 saidWell, protein is not protein. Try to consume lean meats, fish, egg whites, and nuts....anything with a complete amino acid profile.

    Bodybuilding.com has awesome articles about this stuff

    As far as whey, the best, hands down, is Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein Gold Standard....its about $45 bucks on Amazon for 70-something servings. Whey is fast-acting for times like after a workout, when timing is critical. After a workout, you need some carbs too with your protein, and items such as Cytosport Cytogainer combine protein with the carbs. Simple carbs suffice, but things like Waxy Maize are best.

    Like I said, bodybuilding.com has tons and I mean tons of articles...use the search man. You will be in information overload!

    Dymatize all natural whey is better
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:07 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI pretty much eat whole eggs, I buy a whey protein powder from Costco. But I think I will try the why protein by Optimum Nutrition. People here are talking highly of it and the price difference seems to be similar. The brand that Costco sells is Muscle Milk whey protein powder in a bag.


    I switched from the Costco Muscle Milk bags to the Optimum Nutrition stuff. The Optimum Nutrition stuff definitely tastes better.
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    Im surprised that no one has mentioned one source......
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
    I think slimboy08 had it "covered".
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    dekiruman saidIm surprised that no one has mentioned one source......
    Hah! So true icon_smile.gif But it's understandable, different protein sources are better for different diets.

    I'm gonna continue with my approach of simplicity and just throw out what I prefer to eat for certain diets and rank them from best to least best. If you want details, I think you should wait for shredcutback to post in this thread, he's much better at explaining the specifics and science of all aspects of working out and nutrition.

    I think by far my favorite source of protein is lean, skinless, chicken breast. It's cheap, low in fat. A staple in many diets. However it gets old, if you don't spice it up and change up how you cook it, you'll grow to hate it.

    It's also not the best choice for low/no carb diets if you're aiming for that, simply because of that low fat content. You need a little extra fat to utilize as an energy source when you're in ketosis, not just your body fat, otherwise you're gonna burn out. So I grab fattiers meats, particular ground turkey/beef. Eggs are great here too, but watch the carbs! They can slowly add up.

    Honestly, if you're bulking, you're most likely going to be eating carbs. Aim for lean protein sources. My pick is chicken breasts, certain fishes and shrimp can be nice too to spice things up occasionally.

    Do I consume whey powders? Yes I do. But here's how I look at protein powders.... most of them are full of junk, and many people forget that they are a "supplement", not a staple. Take it if you need to. If you didn't have time to cook, missed a meal, or you burnt your newly cut chicken breast, down a shake and some eat some veggies. It's cool. Just pay attention to what's in it, particularly carbs and flavorings/sugar.

    Whey powders are my last resort and sweet treat stand-ins, and if you're gonna get some, get ON 100%.
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    Jul 04, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    cityaznguy saidYour first choice of protein.


    Chicken used to be a top favorite for years. Now is cottage cheese, skim milk, then fish ( there are many with no fat but tons of protein, except salmon).
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    Jul 04, 2011 6:34 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidVariety is better than consuming one protein source. One protein source is not a good idea, nor is eating one carbohydrate source or fat source. All macronutrients should eaten in various forms for balanced nutrition.


    I agree, though he asked for the main source of protein. Life would be boring eating the same thing all the time icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Thanks to all of the Optimum Nutrition talk, I just bought myself some...along with some new underwear.... icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Meat and whey
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:28 AM GMT
    anyone ever tried carnivore protein? its a hydrolyzed beef protein isolate suggested to me by my roommate.
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:32 AM GMT
    Egg whites are the purest form of protein and are used as a measure for the purity of proteins in other foods. Chicken breast should be next as it is a lean protein low in fat (esp. saturated fat). For protein powders, I am a huge ON fan, comes in a variety of flavors and sizes. Chocolate mint flavor and double rich chocolate flavors of ON Whey kiss ass!
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:48 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    UtahCapita saidThanks to all of the Optimum Nutrition talk, I just bought myself some...along with some new underwear.... icon_cool.gif


    Please be sure to provide us with pics of yourself donned in your new underwear purchase. icon_twisted.gif


    It was rather bizarre, I was buying the protein when I was recommended underwear, which reminded me that I needed some new CK boxer briefs. I'd be happy to provide. icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 04, 2011 8:40 AM GMT
    slimboy08 saidSPERM!!!! ha just kiddin icon_razz.gif but my drink is Shaklee Soy Protein icon_smile.gif I have drank this stuff for years! and thats why I am so slender icon_smile.gif


    Someone had to say it. Actually, semen contains more fructose than protein.
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    Jul 04, 2011 1:06 PM GMT
    Sashimi