chances of hiv?

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    Jul 04, 2011 10:46 AM GMT
    hey ive only ever given and recived oral sex but lately ive been feeling tired alot, having no apitite at all and some diarrhea after ive eaten this has been on and off for a while the last time i did it was yesterday and before that was about 3 months oh and also neither of the guys came but i did, i think im just being over cautious but i just wanna double check.

    Also ive never done anal either way but yesterday the guy i was with tried to put it in me but i said no, and then he tried to sit on my dick, i dont think it went it when he tired with his but when he sat on mine i think the head went it im not 100% though icon_confused.gif

    do you think its worth it to get tested? thanks x
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    Jul 04, 2011 10:51 AM GMT
    It's worth it to get tested to put your mind at rest - if you're regularly having casual sexual encounters you should get tested (full STD check) every few months anyway.

    You're probably fine.
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    Jul 04, 2011 10:54 AM GMT
    Pure saidIt's worth it to get tested to put your mind at rest - if you're regularly having casual sexual encounters you should get tested (full STD check) every few months anyway.

    You're probably fine.


    ive only ever been with 2 guys one two times and one once just yesterday icon_confused.gif just pissed off that he did that! hmm im kinda just hoping that cuz they didnt cum that im all good though
  • musicdude

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    Jul 04, 2011 10:56 AM GMT
    ok....if this is the same dude as before, ITS IN YOUR HEAD.

    IF you have anything its probably mono. not HIV. so either get tested, stop worrying so freaking much or stop having sexual encounters.
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    Jul 04, 2011 11:01 AM GMT
    musicdude saidok....if this is the same dude as before, ITS IN YOUR HEAD.

    IF you have anything its probably mono. not HIV. so either get tested, stop worrying so freaking much or stop having sexual encounters.


    nah diffrent guy but i did read through his thread before posting this but just wanted to see
  • vintovka

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    Jul 04, 2011 11:07 AM GMT
    Because of your symptoms you should go to the doctor, as they are common indicators of a number of things that might be serious. You should also get an HIV test to get in the habit of getting tested, but the risk from oral sex is astronomically low. I agree with the above, it's in your head.
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    Jul 04, 2011 11:33 AM GMT
    The oral part is less of a concern from an HIV standpoint. However, it is important not to let a guy cum in your mouth.

    Regarding the anal part, you should use a condom for any type of anal, even if it's just the tip, etc.. Anal is the most risky sexual practice for HIV, and is widely regarded as the practice that causes infection in most gay guys.

    While it's common to say that HIV infection has no symptoms, many people who do get infected, usually develop "flu-like" symptoms. Meaning, a very high fever that can last for weeks, swollen lymph nodes, etc. It usually starts about 2-4 weeks following infection. So, if you don't have a high fever, and it didn't happen 2-4 weeks after a problematic encounter (not the day after, etc.), you're probably fine.

    Just get checked for HIV and other STDs, to put your mind at ease and next time, insist on a condom. It's always worth getting tested, cause almost every STD has treatment these days. Some can even be cured, if detected early.
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    Jul 04, 2011 11:33 AM GMT
    TeamLautner saidhey ive only ever given and recived oral sex but lately ive been feeling tired alot, having no apitite at all and some diarrhea after ive eaten this has been on and off for a while the last time i did it was yesterday and before that was about 3 months oh and also neither of the guys came but i did, i think im just being over cautious but i just wanna double check.

    Also ive never done anal either way but yesterday the guy i was with tried to put it in me but i said no, and then he tried to sit on my dick, i dont think it went it when he tired with his but when he sat on mine i think the head went it im not 100% though icon_confused.gif

    do you think its worth it to get tested? thanks x


    If you have any concerns get tested, and find yourself a GLBT health care provider that is going to understand your concerns. Try looking at the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association Site directory for suggestions. Testing for ALL STDs (HIV, hepatitis, syphilis, gonorrhea and chlaymdia) should be part of a all gay men's health maintenance plan. I am an HIV/STD specialist and diagnosis new cases of hepatitis C, and syphilis every week without fail, and this pattern has been well documented by the CDC and the AMA and ANA.) Anyway I have authored many articles and blogs on this issue and YOUR bottom line is you need health care to find out why are fatigued, lack an appetite and have GI upset regardless of the cause. Get yourself some PRIMARY HEALTh CARE buddy. If let me know what state you live in I may be able to offer some suggestions for providers or health centers, but they would be just helpful suggestions. I suspect, like most people, you take better care of you car than yourself...time to rearrange you priorities bud. Good luck!

    Ric
  • Anto

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    Jul 04, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    Testing for ALL STDs (HIV, hepatitis, syphilis, gonorrhea and chlaymdia) should be part of a all gay men's health maintenance plan.

    There are a lot more diseases that can be caught through sexual contact than that though, some of which that are not usually associated with sex but have been in the gay male population because of the kind of sex they have.
  • jim_sf

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    Jul 04, 2011 3:54 PM GMT
    You won't have acute infection the day after exposure. Combine that with the infinitesimal risk from oral sex, and I'm confident in saying that you didn't contract HIV from this encounter.

    Like every other commenter in this thread, though, I will suggest you see a doctor about your symptoms - they indicate that something else is going on, besides HIV, which may or may not be connected to the oral sex. (It could be food poisoning, for instance.)

    You should also get tested regularly (every ~3 months) for HIV and other STDs, and if you are in fact the same guy as earlier then you really, really, really, really, really need to start talking to a professional about your anxiety issues.
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    Jul 04, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    It's really simple..

    Sexually Active? Get tested.

    Not sexually active? Getting tested to reassure others.

    Either way.. get fucking tested.
  • squash4dave

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    Jul 04, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    You should get tested periodically, but HIV symptoms are not something that shows up very quickly. Except for a few highly unusual circumstances that made the news many, many years ago, HIV symptoms take years to
    show up. But. it only takes about 6 months to seroconvert to positive. And that's when somebody is most contagious, during that period right before showing up pos. Somebody who is pos, but under effective treatment, has little chance of passing it on, not 0%, but very close. It's the exchange of body fluids that is the problem. So, sucking somebody off, who is pos, is more risky than getting sucked off. Also if you have any lesions in your mouth, bleeding gums, canker sores, etc., makes you more at risk. If you get fucked by someone, without a condom, and you bleed during that encounter, and they cum inside you, that puts you at risk, so ALWAYS USE A CONDOM. Better yet, stay away from anyone who wants to have sex without a condom. He is not interested in your welfare, only his own sexual gratification. And make sure it's a latex condom. And use only water soluble lubricant. Oil based lubes break down the latex. A properly used condom is very safe.

    Just remember, HIV/AIDS is not the certain death that it once was. I am a 23+ year survivor, and still going strong. Also in the medical field. If you ever have any questions, I'm more than happy to help answer them. You can always contact me directly, if you wish. That applies to anyone who may have questions. We are all in this together.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Jul 04, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    also stick to silicone based lube vs the water based ones.
    The silicone base acts as a barrier field
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    TeamLautner saidhey ive only ever given and recived oral sex but lately ive been feeling tired alot, having no apitite at all and some diarrhea after ive eaten this has been on and off for a while the last time i did it was yesterday and before that was about 3 months oh and also neither of the guys came but i did, i think im just being over cautious but i just wanna double check.

    Also ive never done anal either way but yesterday the guy i was with tried to put it in me but i said no, and then he tried to sit on my dick, i dont think it went it when he tired with his but when he sat on mine i think the head went it im not 100% though icon_confused.gif

    do you think its worth it to get tested? thanks x


    Read up up on HIV transmission. Wed MD is a good resource.

    Get informed so you don't have to be so insecure.

    Also find a good clinic where you can get tested a couple times a year as a sexually active individual
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    Jul 04, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    Blackbeltguy saidalso stick to silicone based lube vs the water based ones.
    The silicone base acts as a barrier field


    Yeah but it hangs out and makes you slimy. I have had some complaints. I stick to the water based. Butts are not computers.
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    Jul 04, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    hey guys thanks for all your help I kinda thought it was in my head but u know when u just need someone else to tell you? Im gonna try to look into where to get tested im from london so gonna try and look it up and if not just go to my doctor, but i know im gonna be so embarresed!!
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    Jul 04, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    mate - if you're in the UK you can get tested/advice etc on anything std wise from the nhs - you can find your local place here:

    http://www.nhs.uk/ServiceDirectories/Pages/ServiceSearchAdditional.aspx?ServiceType=SexualHealthService

    the rest of the nhs website is pretty well stocked on info as well.
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    SexyN3rd said
    Blackbeltguy saidalso stick to silicone based lube vs the water based ones.
    The silicone base acts as a barrier field


    Yeah but it hangs out and makes you slimy. I have had some complaints. I stick to the water based. Butts are not computers.


    hahahaha...
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    Jul 04, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
    TeamLautner saidhey guys thanks for all your help I kinda thought it was in my head but u know when u just need someone else to tell you? Im gonna try to look into where to get tested im from london so gonna try and look it up and if not just go to my doctor, but i know im gonna be so embarresed!!


    It's nothing to be Shy about bud. If you're sexually active that's all you need to say to the doctor. Just say, i'm looking to get tested for everything as i'm sexually active.

    That's all your doctor needs to know anyway. If you want to tell them more that's on you.

  • Arab_in_NL

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    Jul 04, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    talking about HIV freaks me out ..
    i hope u get well soon ..
  • anon66

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    Jul 04, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    it's not the same guy :/

    OP i know how you feel, i had the exact same experience and got some support, but i can tell you from experience that what you're going through is most likely anxiety
    once i stopped thinking about it my so called 'symptoms' vanished and i got on with my life

    i took a 4th gen test at 3 weeks that was negative, I WAS TOLD that this is conclusive but i understand that a 3 month test is absolutely conclusive. i did mention this to 2 sexual health advisors but they said my risk was astronomically low, it didn't warrant a return test
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    Jul 05, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    TeamLautner saiddo you think its worth it to get tested? thanks x

    Your HIV chances are not high. Nevertheless, ALL sexually active gay men should be tested regularly for HIV.

    Then you will know. If you are negative (likely) you will get a psychological boost. If you are positive, you can quickly begin treatment, and extend your life, perhaps indefinitely for someone your age. And you won't be possibly exposing other gay men to HIV, because you will tell them, and either not have sex, or else safe sex. (As I did with a poz partner for years, without becoming infected myself)

    What you MAY have gotten is another kind of STD (sexually transmitted disease), which you CAN get through oral. It's wrong to think that your only risk is HIV -- there are many other things you can catch, most being treatable.

    Plus you may have something totally unrelated to gay sex. People still catch things and develop problems, you know, even if they aren't having gay sex.

    So get an HIV test, and see a doctor for a general checkup. You're in the UK, I think you're covered by national health, so take advantage of it.
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    Jul 05, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    I have a headache and I might have a brain tumor.


    Yeah, I might and you might have HIV but we both probably have neither icon_razz.gif
  • squash4dave

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    Jul 05, 2011 5:14 AM GMT
    Blackbeltguy saidalso stick to silicone based lube vs the water based ones.
    The silicone base acts as a barrier field


    Thanks. I meant to include that, but was mostly trying to warn against using oil based lubricants with the latex.