Soldier Andrew Wilfahrt

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    Jul 04, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
    I just heard about this man, a true Hero and his amazing parents now defending same sex marriage in Minnesota. Had to share....

    Battle on!

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    Jul 04, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    OK but you didn't actually share it. Here's the story:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/07/02/gay.soldier.andrew.wilfahrt/index.html

    It's a long article but I encourage every one to read it. Great journalism.

    Anyone else wonder if CNN purposely broke this story on 4th of July?
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    ncujock saidOK but you didn't actually share it. Here's the story:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/07/02/gay.soldier.andrew.wilfahrt/index.html

    It's a long article but I encourage every one to read it. Great journalism.

    Anyone else wonder if CNN purposely broke this story on 4th of July?




    Hmm I read it a few days ago, I'm not sure if it was timed like you suggest.
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    Jul 04, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    What a great piece of writing and what a beautiful man of heart. Now I need some tissues dammit.
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    Jul 04, 2011 10:47 PM GMT
    I saw his dad speak in St. Paul. I wish I shook his hand.
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    Jul 04, 2011 10:56 PM GMT
    gosh, I hate to get all Gore Vidal on you, but this is a very tragic tale . . .

    . . . a gay boy didn't understand the real world and he paid a very high price . . . his parents are standard issue lefties and he was a victim waiting to happen . . . is that what American manhood has come to? . . .

    . . .. why would gay men, of all people, applaud victimhood, ignorance, and the collateral damage of empire?

    . . Independence Day indeed (not the Jacobin 4th, by the way!)
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    Jul 05, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    Historical fact: Independence Day is a celebration of freedom from government tyranny

    Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of it. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. ~Woodrow Wilson

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    Jul 05, 2011 1:35 AM GMT
    Woodrow Wilson was a liar and is one of the arch enemies of liberty . . . odd that you would cite him, of all people, as an avatar of liberty . . .
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    Jul 05, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    noren saidgosh, I hate to get all Gore Vidal on you, but this is a very tragic tale . . .

    . . . a gay boy didn't understand the real world and he paid a very high price . . . his parents are standard issue lefties and he was a victim waiting to happen . . . is that what American manhood has come to? . . .

    . . .. why would gay men, of all people, applaud victimhood, ignorance, and the collateral damage of empire?

    . . Independence Day indeed (not the Jacobin 4th, by the way!)


    Yes he paid a very high price, luckily he was 29 years old when he signed up for the army (so not a 'gay boy' at all, but a man, not a 'gay' man, just a man) and knew what he was getting himself in to. Fortunately, he did not die in vain as most of us probably will. Besides becoming a hero for his country, his story has the chance to become the single most poignant dagger in the fight for marriage equality.

    With regards to your views on the war in Afghanistan: The Kite Runner, read it.
  • mynyun

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    Jul 05, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
    Not everyone avoided beatings like he did.



    http://unicornbooty.com/2011/07/dont-ask-dont-tell-about-gay-soldiers-attacked-in-hate-crime/


    Imagine being beaten by a crowd who hurled racial and anti-gay slurs at you to the point where your jaw needs to be wired shut, and your face is too swollen to even open your eyes for a day – not to mention the six bruised ribs you also received.

    Now imagine having to show up to work the next day and do your job, and being legally banned from telling anyone what had happened. And oh yeah, your job is to drive a tank and protect our country.

    Unfortunately, this is the reality of two Fort Carson soldiers who were savagely beaten while trying to grab a bite to eat with a friend this weekend in Colorado Springs, CO.
    Police are investigating a suspected hate crime after a group of men beat two gay Fort Carson soldiers and others while shouting anti-homosexual and racial slurs.

    The victims told KRDO-TV they believe they were targeted at a fast food restaurant early Saturday because they’re gay.

    Two victims are Fort Carson soldiers, who asked to remain anonymous because being identified as homosexual could harm their military careers.

    “I’m a tanker,” said a gay soldier identified as John.

    In a combat unit, John said, homosexuality “is definitely frowned upon,” according to KRDO.

    Another victim, called Ted, said that most of his Army peers know he is gay.

    “But I don’t need people higher up knowing,” he told KRDO. “I still have to protect myself as far as on the military side.”

    Lest you’ve forgotten, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is still very much in effect here in the good old U S of A, and the victims of these crimes could (and would) be discharged from the military if they were to report the circumstances of their assault.

    While we’re all busy nursing post-Independence Day BBQ hangovers, let’s not forget that LGBT soldiers in America, despite back and forth from Congress and the repeal of DADT, possess zero protection under the law and are still being kicked out of the armed forces in our country simply for being gay.

    Liberty and justice for ALL, eh?