Is there anything wrong with being a gold digger?

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    Jul 04, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    I mean, most people on this website are superficial and want a guy with a muscular physique, abs and all that.. what's wrong with wanting money instead?

    What makes that any worse?
  • timmytwister

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    Jul 05, 2011 4:08 AM GMT
    Dude.. you're talking about basically being a prostitute.
    Have some self-respect and make your own money.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:17 AM GMT
    Nothing wrong with being a prostitute. He wants sex, you want money. Win win situation. Go for it, if thats what you want.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:19 AM GMT
    I think most guys are saying they prefer muscles and abs and ideally would like that in a partner. I don't think anyone is really saying it is a deal breaker. And I don't think anyone would shoot down a great guy who they genuinely love simply because he doesn't have enough mass. At least I truly hope not.

    Same for money. It is a blast. More fun than anything. If you have a choice, it is almost always better to have it than to not. But if it is a deal breaker for you in finding someone to spend your life with - you are poor on such a deep level that no amount of money will make a difference.

    Trust me, I know where to shop. Eventually you buy everything. And then you are back to looking each other in the eye. The money won't matter then. How you feel when you look in his eyes will. Choose wisely.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    nycmafioso saidI mean, most people on this website are superficial and want a guy with a muscular physique, abs and all that.. what's wrong with wanting money instead?

    What makes that any worse?


    nothing. it'd be hypocritical to say that one's shallow while the other isn't. if you are upfront about wanting a rich guy, and no one gets duped in the process, i don't see how any of it is a problem.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:30 AM GMT
    From CASH- "Trust me, I know where to shop. Eventually you buy everything. And then you are back to looking each other in the eye. The money won't matter then. How you feel when you look in his eyes will. Choose wisely."

    What great advice...
  • masculumpedes

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    Jul 05, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
    Most gold-diggers that I know of only look for something "temp" anyway. As long as it's understood by both parties that it is only a temporary thing....why not enjoy the moment? icon_wink.gif
  • timmytwister

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    Jul 05, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    I don't mean to assume the OP's intent; but it sounds to me like he wants to be "kept."
    Gold-diggers are leeches, plain and simple.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:41 AM GMT
    This thread reminds me of the movie "Boy Culture" love that movie icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:42 AM GMT
    malefeet saidMost gold-diggers that I know of only look for something "temp" anyway. As long as it's understood by both parties that it is only a temporary thing....why not enjoy the moment? icon_wink.gif


    Good times, flings and lost weekends are different. Especially when you are very young and just discovering the world. By all means - go for what ever is shiniest at the moment.

    The "types" you describe fall more into the Hustler category than actual Gold-Digger. A true Gold-Digger is more LTR oriented (at least in theory) but they base their feelings on liquid assets. They often love their partner but can not fathom loving him if he were not extremely wealthy.

    Please keep in mind I am not passing judgement on either. At all.

    I assumed the OP was referring to LTRs.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
    timmytwister saidI don't mean to assume the OP's intent; but it sounds to me like he wants to be "kept."
    Gold-diggers are leeches, plain and simple.


    Actually, a very wealthy man, with all of the comensurate power and social position he generally commands, has no reason to "keep" a leeche. It is a two way street of give and take. It is commodified and often devoid of substantial emotion but it is not as cut and dry as you are asserting either. It is not invalid per se. Both parties are getting some sort of benefit. And both are paying a price. Only the two individuals involved are really able to pass judgement on the terms of the deal.

    My only real point is the costs are often much higher than anyone anticipates.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    swimjohn saidThis thread reminds me of the movie "Boy Culture" love that movie icon_biggrin.gif


    yes it is a great movie...
  • squash4dave

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    Jul 05, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
    Because someone who is interested in the physical is still interested in that that person for what that person has to offer. And at least there is an attraction as a starting point. Maybe it's superficial, but it's legitimate. And can lead to a deeper attraction later down the road. Being a gold digger isn't really being interested in that person, but only in what that person can buy you. And that's exactly what they would be doing, buying you. At least with a prostitute, though, the John would know that that's what he's doing. In your scenario, that guy thinks that you actually like him. Which makes that a whole lot more despicable, in my estimation. You're toying with other people's emotions. You wouldn't like it if someone did that to you. Treat other people the way you would want them to treat you.
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    Jul 05, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Cash said[/cite]I think most guys are saying they prefer muscles and abs and ideally would like that in a partner. I don't think anyone is really saying it is a deal breaker. And I don't think anyone would shoot down a great guy who they genuinely love simply because he doesn't have enough mass. At least I truly hope not.
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    I disagree, there are threads like this http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1537094, there are more threads like that too
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    ohioguy12 said[quote][cite]Cash said[/cite]I think most guys are saying they prefer muscles and abs and ideally would like that in a partner. I don't think anyone is really saying it is a deal breaker. And I don't think anyone would shoot down a great guy who they genuinely love simply because he doesn't have enough mass. At least I truly hope not.
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    I disagree, there are threads like this http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1537094, there are more threads like that too


    That thread and OP simply pose a question. That OP is notorious for posing those kinds of scenarios for discussion. The majority of the responses back up what you quoted me as saying.
  • timmytwister

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    Jul 05, 2011 5:05 AM GMT
    Cash saidActually, a very wealthy man, with all of the comensurate power and social position he generally commands, has no reason to "keep" a leeche. It is a two way street of give and take. It is commodified and often devoid of substantial emotion but it is not as cut and dry as you are asserting either. It is not invalid per se. Both parties are getting some sort of benefit. And both are paying a price. Only the two indivifuals involved are really able to pass judgement on the terms of the deal.


    Very well said. And I agree that often there is a mutual benefit... for a while. But I have known several women (not stereotyping women; just the facts) who have completely misrepresented their intentions; marrying a guy just to get access to his money. Then using him up, and moving on to the next sucker. I'm sure these people exist in both sexes and all orientations.

    Further, I find it very difficult to respect people who choose to not support themselves if they are perfectly able to; but instead choose to prostitute themselves to put someone else's roof over their head. I have similar lack of respect for the willing "john".
    I completely respect your evaluation, Cash. It just seems a bit too business-like for me.
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    Its wrong because your taking someone else money not your. But if the rich person aware of that then its a different story, I suppose you would feel less "advantageous"
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    Hmmmmm Let me think........YESicon_exclaim.gif
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:10 AM GMT
    Be a man and work for your own fucking money... shallow free-loading shit like this pisses me off.

    I wouldn't care if my dude drove a shitty ass car, or didn't even have money to buy me a fucking burger... I'd buy him the burger. I want HIM not his money. As long as we both work for a living, its all good with me.
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
    Yes.

    A guy's physical traits may only be skin deep but they also tell you various aspects of their personality. For example, a muscular guy's body can tell you that they have the determination, discipline, and strength of will to attain and maintain that type of body, all of which are positive traits. A gold digger, on the other hand, just tells that the person is simply filled with avarice.
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
    Say it with me people,

    Obvious troll iiiiisss........
  • masculumpedes

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    Jul 05, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    Cash said
    malefeet saidMost gold-diggers that I know of only look for something "temp" anyway. As long as it's understood by both parties that it is only a temporary thing....why not enjoy the moment? icon_wink.gif


    Good times, flings and lost weekends are different. Especially when you are very young and just discovering the world. By all means - go for what ever is shiniest at the moment.

    The "types" you describe fall more into the Hustler category than actual Gold-Digger. A true Gold-Digger is more LTR oriented (at least in theory) but they base their feelings on liquid assets. They often love their partner but can not fathom loving him if he were not extremely wealthy.

    Please keep in mind I am not passing judgement on either. At all.

    I assumed the OP was referring to LTRs.


    You make perfect sense.....and the OP may have been referring to LTR's...however any businessman knows that you don't "buy" a gold-digger....you simply rent them for a few months...at an agreeable expense...icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:14 AM GMT
    My step-mother was a gold digger who managed to make the lives of me, my mother, and my father hellish. Wanting someone who's cute is one thing, but having no morals is another. Also, as a rich (relatively) guy, I'm paranoid that guys just want me for my money and the places I can take them. That said, if it's part of a package, i.e. they enjoy being with me AND the places I take them and the things I can give them, that's OK.
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    Jul 05, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidSay it with me people,

    Obvious troll iiiiisss........


    Ariodante will pull his pants AND underwear all the way down for bacon and cookies. But he is up front about it and no one gets hurt. It is just the way he rolls.

    Don't tell him I have a huge crush on him. icon_redface.gif

    He wouldn't care any way. I have vast wealth...but no bacon.

    It is a cruel twist of fate.

  • masculumpedes

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    Jul 05, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
    Cash said
    Ariodante saidSay it with me people,

    Obvious troll iiiiisss........


    Ariodante will pull his pants AND underwear all the way down for bacon and cookies. But he is up front about it and no one gets hurt. It is just the way he rolls.

    Don't tell him I have a huge crush on him. icon_redface.gif

    He wouldn't care any way. I have vast wealth...but no bacon.

    It is a cruel twist of fate.



    Well...he does have nice feet....36.gif