State Ratified Incest is More Popular Than Gay Marriage

  • GQjock

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    Jul 05, 2011 11:21 PM GMT
    You Can marry your first cousin in more states than have legalized gay marriage

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  • GQjock

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    Jul 05, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
    It's a relative term to make a point


    It's also a GREAT way to have recessive genetic traits show up in your family for generations to come icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 06, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?
  • kittar

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    Jul 06, 2011 12:13 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?


    Inbreeding depression?
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    Jul 06, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?


    Inbreeding depression?


    Potato/Potahtoe.
  • kittar

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    Jul 06, 2011 12:19 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?


    Inbreeding depression?


    Potato/Potahtoe.


    Actually, hybrid vigor refers to amplification of desired or superior qualities due to inbreeding. Inbreeding depression is the opposite.

    Potato/tomato. Not that either of those are bad produce ;)
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    Jul 06, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    Yeah, but New York, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Connecticut are very bold in that I can marry my first male cousin if I really wanted to.

    And frankly I don't. He's not my type gay.
  • squash4dave

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    Jul 06, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    GQjock saidYou Can marry your first cousin in more states than have legalized gay marriage

    Banjo playin Mugwumps are cheerin all over the country .... Yessiree Dogies icon_rolleyes.gif

    NYTimes-gay-marriage-cousins-graphic.jpe


    Oh goody, now I can move back to California to marry my cousin. Nah, he's not an RJ member. Oh yeah, and we can't marry there anymore! At my age, the memory starts to go. Or was there some inbreeding in the recent past?
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    Jul 06, 2011 12:39 AM GMT
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?


    Inbreeding depression?


    Potato/Potahtoe.


    Actually, hybrid vigor refers to amplification of desired or superior qualities due to inbreeding. Inbreeding depression is the opposite.

    Potato/tomato. Not that either of those are bad produce ;)


    You are wrong in one way and I in another.
    HYBRID vigor is amplification of desired or superior qualities due to OUTbreeding, not INBRED vigor (if the latter indeed exists):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_vigorHeterosis, or hybrid vigor, or outbreeding enhancement, is the improved or increased function of any biological quality in a hybrid offspring. It is the occurrence of a genetically superior offspring from mixing the genes of its parents.

    Heterosis is the opposite of inbreeding depression. Inbreeding depression leads to offspring with deleterious traits due to homozygosity.
    ...
    The inverse of heterosis, when a hybrid inherits traits from its parents that are not fully compatible, with deleterious results, is outbreeding depression.


    I.e. hybrid vigor is the opposite of inbreeding depression, but the inverse of outbreeding depression.

    Either way, the idea is that hybrid is in general better than inbreeding. Potato/potahtoe.
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    Jul 06, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    Oops......we're overpopulated! Let's use the small gene pool to make some more!
  • Vaughn

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    Jul 06, 2011 6:16 AM GMT
    Whenever I see that I look at Cali then Texas and wonder.
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    Jul 06, 2011 7:34 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidVaughn says "Whenever I see that I look at Cali then Texas and wonder."

    California is too liberal and Texas is too conservative.


    If you go to the google thing where you can see states by search terms Texas lights up pretty strong on most gay queries.
  • kittar

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    Jul 08, 2011 1:54 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    kittar said
    q1w2e3 said
    Rawrly saidInbred vigour ;-)


    I thought it's hybrid vigor?


    Inbreeding depression?


    Potato/Potahtoe.


    Actually, hybrid vigor refers to amplification of desired or superior qualities due to inbreeding. Inbreeding depression is the opposite.

    Potato/tomato. Not that either of those are bad produce ;)


    You are wrong in one way and I in another.
    HYBRID vigor is amplification of desired or superior qualities due to OUTbreeding, not INBRED vigor (if the latter indeed exists):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_vigorHeterosis, or hybrid vigor, or outbreeding enhancement, is the improved or increased function of any biological quality in a hybrid offspring. It is the occurrence of a genetically superior offspring from mixing the genes of its parents.

    Heterosis is the opposite of inbreeding depression. Inbreeding depression leads to offspring with deleterious traits due to homozygosity.
    ...
    The inverse of heterosis, when a hybrid inherits traits from its parents that are not fully compatible, with deleterious results, is outbreeding depression.


    I.e. hybrid vigor is the opposite of inbreeding depression, but the inverse of outbreeding depression.

    Either way, the idea is that hybrid is in general better than inbreeding. Potato/potahtoe.


    Ah. I missed that.

    But I still say potato/tomato ;) those two are fairly opposite...
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    Jul 08, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    I love Iowa icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 08, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    Well, from the standpoint of this thread, inbreeding depression is probably the more suitable term, following GQjock's comment:

    "It's also a GREAT way to have recessive genetic traits show up in your family for generations to come "

    I just tried to correct Rawrly's term "inbred vigor" which I don't think exists. More like "inbred idiocy."icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 09, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    Rawrly saidIt appears in scientific papers. Use the scholar search function on Google, for instance.


    Well I did, and in no cases was the phrase "inbred vigor" a title. A typical title would be:
    Hybrid vigor in Pacific oysters: an experimental approach using crosses among inbred lines
    Male gametophyte in maize: II. Pollen vigor in inbred plants

    If you search the exact phrase in text, it's only in maize.

    If it exists, it's demonstrated only in plants and exceedingly rare.

    Whereas hybrid vigor is demonstrated many times in both plants and animals.