Gay med students/doctors out there? (New to RJ)

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    Jul 08, 2011 2:44 PM GMT
    Hey everyone, new to RJ and really impressed by the community so far. Seems like a good group of guys.

    I'm applying to medical schools right now and am looking to meet/hear experiences from any of you all that are premeds, current students, residents, physicians, etc. Just interested in hearing any advice/thoughts about being gay in med school, whether you were out in apps, school...stuff like that.

    Feel free to PM me too.

    Hope everyone had a great Fourth!
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    Jul 08, 2011 2:47 PM GMT
    I once had sex with a med student. Awful experience...

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    Jul 08, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidI once had sex with a med student. Awful experience...

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    Mine was pretty hot icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 08, 2011 2:55 PM GMT
    Im not a physician, but I'm getting my PhD in biomedical research, specifically in neuroscience research, like, brain stuff icon_smile.gif. All my boyfriends were PhDs, MDs, or Lawyers though. It's not that I can't stand stupid people, it's just that I can't understand them.

    Wait, maybe I'm the stupid one....
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    Jul 08, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    City- I'm with you there. Guess that makes us both the stupid ones icon_biggrin.gif

    Seriously though, the guy doesnt have to be a genius, but combination of brains and looks is a deadly combo.
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    Jul 08, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    BSox402 saidHey everyone, new to RJ and really impressed by the community so far. Seems like a good group of guys.

    Welcome to RJ. It is a good group and there are a number of medical professionals who have participated in similar discussions in the past. If you don't get timely responses, some could be on vacation. Messages move down in this folder pretty quickly and get buried, so don't hesitate to come up with excuses to bump it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 08, 2011 3:24 PM GMT
    cityaznguy saidIm not a physician, but I'm getting my PhD in biomedical research, specifically in neuroscience research, like, brain stuff icon_smile.gif. All my boyfriends were PhDs, MDs, or Lawyers though. It's not that I can't stand stupid people, it's just that I can't understand them.

    Wait, maybe I'm the stupid one....



    nice...that's what i'm involved in. i'm doing some neurophysiology research now as an undergrad....
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    Jul 08, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    I'm an MD. Feel free to ask any questions, although I'm Canadian so there will be some differences in our health care systems.
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    Jul 08, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    I know a fuck load about the ear. Getting my AuD now. However, I know some write Audiologists off as "Can you hear this?".

    I get much respect in my clinic now. My director was asking me the other day if they made me cover my tattoos in clinic, and I said I would prefer to anyway. I don't feel tattoos are professional; also being gay in the MidWest is somewhat an issue for some. She said,

    "You look barely 21 yrs old, are a little effeminate, and dress way too nicely for this town, BUT you've always shown the faculty here that you are competent, capable, and knowledgeable. At least you don't have half your tits hangin' out like some girls."
  • squash4dave

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    Jul 08, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    My time in med school was exactly when I started coming out. I finally made it all the way out of that very deep closet during my internship. I met my best friend at that time, too. Also a doctor and married at the time. So, you could say that we walked out of that closet together. Med school itself had no effect on my private life, though. Only, know that you are going to be busier than you ever imagined. Especially when you get into clinical rotations. Good luck with your applications. But, they don't need to know anything about your private life. It's not relevant. You are not going to be a gay doctor, but a doctor who happens to be gay.
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    squash4dave saidGood luck with your applications. But, they don't need to know anything about your private life. It's not relevant. You are not going to be a gay doctor, but a doctor who happens to be gay.

    I agree with this. I did not come out in any of my applications-school or residency. My sexual preferences have had very little effect on me-career wise. I am in the South. People at work know I have a male partner. But since I don't make a big deal about it, other people don't either.
    If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
    Thanks all

    Squash- was there something about med school itself that made you wait until internship, or was that just the "right time" for you?
  • austex85

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    Jul 08, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    tag

    don't mind me. i just want to check in here periodically to find my future husband.
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    Aus- from the number of views, you might not be the only one!
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    To all those premeds/current students out there...there seem to be a lot of schools that have diversity essays now.

    I know there is a pretty big question of whether to be out on your app (and appreciate the feedback above), anyone put this into that essay?

    Sort of struggling with this one.
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    BSox402 saidTo all those premeds/current students out there...there seem to be a lot of schools that have diversity essays now.

    I know there is a pretty big question of whether to be out on your app (and appreciate the feedback above), anyone put this into that essay?

    Sort of struggling with this one.


    Granted, I'm not a med school student, but for any academic program (save for the programs at the few extreme religiously conservative schools like Regent, Pepperdine, etc) it's always best to write a diversity statement and be out on your app.

    Schools want a diverse student body, and while being gay won't necessarily bump your application if it's lacking some of the core credentials, it'll make you stand out and will allow it to be a tie-breaker if the school's deciding between you and someone else with similar stats.
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    Jul 08, 2011 4:58 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidI once had sex with a med student. Awful experience...

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    Maybe he was sleeping during his male anatomy class and didn't master it...lol. Try me buddy and you will see how great it would be.

    Being gay in medicine is no big deal....just like in the military, "Don't ask and don't tell". My philosophy in life being gay is that, I don't owe an explanation to anyone about my sexual orientation. People that you would be working with classmates, residents, attending physicians and all don't need to know about your private life.

    I'm soon to be a doctor who happens to be gay.

    I wish you well....feel free to email me.
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    Jul 08, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    austex85 saiddon't mind me. i just want to check in here periodically to find my future husband.


    What you do:

    1. Get a day job at a medical school or teaching hospital.
    2. At lunch, weather permitting, take your food outside and "sun yourself". icon_wink.gif
    3. Chat up cute students/interns/residents who stop by.
    4. ???
    5. Profit! Marry one!

    (I'm only half-joking about this; this is how my father's parents met.)
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    Jul 08, 2011 5:26 PM GMT
    Thanks ER, great feedback. I guess the only thought I would have on that is that many of my military friends thought that DADT made them sneak around and not be able to really be comfortable with who they were. I can understand both sides of what you're saying.

    Have you ever witnessed any discrimination around you in school?
  • thinnfit

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    Jul 08, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    I am an Athletic Training major, and have found that no one cares about my or others' sexuality. I go to a relatively small university (University of Southern Maine) , and my class is about 18 people, we are a close knit group and we support each other, and it feels a lot like family. My piece of advice, be who you are and have fun with your program, and utilize classmates for anything, you learn with and from each other.

    Best of Luck!

    -J
  • wild_sky360

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    Jul 08, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    My ex is a physician. He encountered blatant homophobia as a pre med undergrad.
    Though not outwardly gay appearing, the med school dean picked up on it. He claims to have been told point blank that he would never allow him admission.

    Undeterred, he was accepted in a D.O. program and passed both D.O. and MD boards upon graduation. He's 44 now, so not sure when this all happened, down in Fl.
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    Jul 08, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidI once had sex with a med student. Awful experience...

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    Why? Don't tell us that it was his ignorance of basic anatomy!
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    Jul 08, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    I don't know how it is in the states. In Canada, one's sexual orientation should never even come up in an interview/application unless you choose to bring it up yourself. Otherwise the school could potentially get itself into some legal hotwater.

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    Jul 08, 2011 6:16 PM GMT
    BSox402 saidThanks ER, great feedback. I guess the only thought I would have on that is that many of my military friends thought that DADT made them sneak around and not be able to really be comfortable with who they were. I can understand both sides of what you're saying.

    Have you ever witnessed any discrimination around you in school?



    You can still be comfortable despite that you are not openly gay in school. I choose not to disclose my sexuality but I'm comfortable of who I am. Like I said you don't owe anyone an explanation as to who you are. I tend to separate my professional life from my personal life.....it's just a choice and it never hampered in any of my endeavors.

    If you choose to be openly gay in the school that you are applying, I don't think it will be an issue. I have classmates that are openly gay and are treated equally the same like others.

    I never witnessed any discrimination in my school nor any discrimination on my behalf. In fact our school has a LGBT group and the administration is very supportive with it.

    Good luck!

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    Jul 08, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    recently accepted / current first year med student here. never outed myself during the app process but also didn't intentionally hide anything. i've done public health research on hiv/aids, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. feel free to private msg me w/ further questions.