The Do-Nothing Congress

  • GQjock

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    Jul 08, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
    Remember When the republicans came in and they said that they were gonna make some changes?

    Well they did .... and the changes they were talking about was that they weren't gonna DO ANYTHING
    Graph from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office about the number of bills that have passed the House since Republicans won the majority and she handed over the Speaker's gavel.
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    Hmmm ... I wonder how many of Those bills had ANYTHING to do with jobs icon_rolleyes.gif

    The Senate has also stalled out. Last week, rookie Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-New Hampshire) told the Chicago Tribune, "I thought that we would vote on a lot more bills."

    I Love that quote ... Like she was saying " I thought we were gonna be doin more Stuff"
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    Jul 08, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
    http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2011031117/cutting-government-creates-jobs-cutting-taxes-increases-revenueSecret plan? When they said that cutting taxes increases revenue they knew it wouldn't -- they had a hidden agenda. They knew better than to actually believe that cutting taxes would actually increase revenue to fund the government. They said so. The resulting deficits were the agenda. The plan was to "cut their allowance" and "starve the beast" to create a debt crisis, then demand that government cut back the things it does to protect and empower We, the People.

    What is the agenda behind this job-destruction agenda? If there is a secret agenda behind destroying so many American jobs -- and the ability to create new jobs that pay well -- then what is it? They can't be crazy enough to destroy the economy just to increase their 2012 electoral odds, can they? On the other hand, no one has ever finished the sentence, "Republicans aren't crazy enough to ..." without being proven wrong.
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    Jul 09, 2011 12:56 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    GQjock said
    Graph from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office about the number of bills that have passed the House since Republicans won the majority and she handed over the Speaker's gavel.


    That's a great graph - very heartening that the House is churning out far less crap than over the past two years.


    God forbid they actually govern the country...
  • Webster666

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    Jul 09, 2011 1:20 AM GMT
    It's because the Republicans have an all-or-nothing, my-way-or-the-highway attitude, when it comes to legislation. They won't compromise.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 09, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    Webster666 It's because the Republicans have an all-or-nothing, my-way-or-the-highway attitude, when it comes to legislation. They won't compromise.


    Agreed, but they might change their minds when they have to face voters next year.... but then again with some of those Tea Party people... who knows...
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    Jul 09, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    Webster666 It's because the Republicans have an all-or-nothing, my-way-or-the-highway attitude, when it comes to legislation. They won't compromise.


    Agreed, but they might change their minds when they have to face voters next year.... but then again with some of those Tea Party people... who knows...
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    I think Boehner's screwed because he's old school. He'd make a deal but Cantor threw him under the bus, and the country with him. This is what happens when you elect sociopaths.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 09, 2011 4:34 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    GQjock said
    Graph from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office about the number of bills that have passed the House since Republicans won the majority and she handed over the Speaker's gavel.


    That's a great graph - very heartening that the House is churning out far less crap than over the past two years.


    Ah ... but SB Grasshopper
    There's far more information about what's IN those paltry 166 bills than what's Not being dome

    How many Anti-abortion bills and amendments WERE passed as opposed to how many bills for jobs and small businesses?
  • GQjock

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    Jul 09, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    The one thing that DID Work we're not doing anymore

    We’re backsliding. And we don’t have to be.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/were-backsliding-and-we-dont-have-to-be/2011/07/06/gIQA5Z8W3H_blog.html

    Washington is making it worse. The Federal Reserve has ended its underpowered QE2 program and has no plans to replace it with QE3. Congress has is ending a variety of stimulus programs and shows every intention of either moving immediately to austerity, or nearly defaulting on the national debt and then, after causing economic chaos, moving immediately to some form of austerity. So the two institutions capable of helping the economy lift itself up are, instead, pressuring it to stay down.

    We could do more. We should do more. But Congress won’t do anything more. The labor market, initially rocked by a financial crisis, is now stagnating because of a political one
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    What the White House is doing wrong is that they are NOT resisting the republicans tooth and nail
    Instead they are capitulating and therefore the numbers show it
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    Jul 09, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    Almost six months in power and the Repubs haven't done jack.
    They haven't even TRIED to do anything to help the economy or to create jobs.

    But, I'll bet they've had their new offices beautifully redecorated.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 09, 2011 9:47 AM GMT
    They DO nothing .... But the republicans in the Senate stay in Pro-Forma Session in order to block any of Obama's recess appointments

    Pro-Forma meaning that they never fully adjourn for say a weekend or holiday which makes recess appointments ... specifically Elizabeth Warren
    who would head the still leaderless Consumer Protection agency

    THAT they're DOING icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/05/27/senate-will-stay-in-pro-forma-session-blocking-recess-appointments/

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    http://mydd.com/2010/8/7/gop-obstructionism
  • rioriz

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    Jul 09, 2011 12:20 PM GMT
    Instead of blaming one house or the other can someone please prove to me how the current policies are working in the favor for the economy...I mean even the Pres admitted they are not working! We need change and I prefer it with bipartisan support but if not someone has to give!
  • GQjock

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    Jul 09, 2011 1:18 PM GMT
    rioriz saidInstead of blaming one house or the other can someone please prove to me how the current policies are working in the favor for the economy...I mean even the Pres admitted they are not working! We need change and I prefer it with bipartisan support but if not someone has to give!


    What NEEDS to be done is what Obama began to do after the he came into office when he was saddled with the fiscal crisis
    He came with a stimulus package that helped municipalities and State governments
    We need a WPA typeof jobs program that will help rebuild our seriously failing infrastructure
    Right Tim Pawlenty?remember the Minneapolis bridge collapse ??
    When you have a serious recessionary job cut back YOU DONT CUT BACK government programs
    Because you're undercutting the very process you need for recovery

    Oh WAIT ...... We haven't tried tax cuts and giving more money to corporations that don't need them icon_rolleyes.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 09, 2011 3:54 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    GQjock said
    Graph from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office about the number of bills that have passed the House since Republicans won the majority and she handed over the Speaker's gavel.


    That's a great graph - very heartening that the House is churning out far less crap than over the past two years.



    Exactly! It's not about the quantity of bills, it's the quality
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 09, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidAlmost six months in power and the Repubs haven't done jack.
    They haven't even TRIED to do anything to help the economy or to create jobs.

    But, I'll bet they've had their new offices beautifully redecorated.



    The Republicans "in power"???? Ha! I always get a good chuckle at "The World According to RickRick". Yes, it's eye-roll inducing, but good for a chuckle nonetheless.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 09, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
    The world according to Rickrick is obviously a fantasyland. That man just recycles the same old nonsense. The prince of the extremist liberal hens no doubt.

    As for the the republicans and the democrats, neither political party has done anything for this country accept put their own self aggrandizement ahead of the American people. What else is newicon_question.gif
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    Jul 09, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
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    rickrick91 saidAlmost six months in power and the Repubs haven't done jack.
    They haven't even TRIED to do anything to help the economy or to create jobs.

    But, I'll bet they've had their new offices beautifully redecorated.



    The Republicans "in power"???? Ha! I always get a good chuckle at "The World According to RickRick". Yes, it's eye-roll inducing, but good for a chuckle nonetheless.





    Fact Check time for you yet again!

    Yes, the Repubs ARE in power.
    They're in complete charge of the House.
    They have an overwhelming majority of seats in the House.
    They can pass any legislation that they want.
    WHAT pieces of legislation have the Repubs in the House passed and sent to the Senate that you as a Republican are proud of????

    Please post a list of the legislation that the Repubs have put forward since they took control of the House that you're proud to point to as accomplishments.
    Enlighten us as to the great accomplishments of the current Repub House of Representatives.
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    Jul 09, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe world according to Rickrick is obviously a fantasyland. That man just recycles the same old nonsense. The prince of the extremist liberal hens no doubt.

    As for the the republicans and the democrats, neither political party has done anything for this country accept put their own self aggrandizement ahead of the American people. What else is newicon_question.gif




    LOL!
    Actually - it's your posts that "recycle" the same tired personal attacks.
    "The prince of extremist liberal hens"?
    LMFAO!
    Not only is that the epitome of lamesness - you've also used it before.

    If you claim that what I posted is "fantasy" - prove it.
    List all the great accomplishments of the new Repub majority in the House.
    What great pieces of legislation have they put forward?
    They're in complete control of the House and can pass whatever they want.
    So, what have they done?

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    rickrick91 saidFact Check time for you yet again!

    Yes, the Repubs ARE in power.
    They're in complete charge of the House.
    They have an overwhelming majority of seats in the House.
    They can pass any legislation that they want.



    Yes, RickRick... in the House.

    But the Republicans have nothing in terms of control compared to the past 2 years when the Democrats had complete control of the House, Senate and Presidency.

    Q: Why didn't the Democrats pass a budget?

    A: Because they wanted to spend $5 trillion that we didn't have.


    Q: Why are we quickly approaching the debt ceiling limit?

    A: Because the Democrats added $5 trillion to the national debt in the past 29 months.






    Why did the CONGRESS spend 5 trillion dollars?
    TO PULL THE COUNTRY OUT OF THE BUSH RECESSION.

    Why do we have a massive National Debt?
    BECAUSE THE LAST FOUR REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS INCREASED THE NATIONAL DEBT.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
    The last FIVE Democratic president REDUCED the National Debt.

    Why did the last four Republican presidents blow up the National Debt?
    TO GIVE RICH PEOPLE BIG TAX CUTS.
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    Jul 10, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    Passing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.
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    Jul 10, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    Flamedown saidPassing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.




    The Repubs campaigned on promises of helping the economy and creating jobs.
    They've been in complete control of the House for almost six months and can pass whatever legislation they want - but they've done NOTHING to try to help the economy or create jobs.
    They either lied during the election or they've broken their promises.

    THAT'S THE POINT.
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    Flamedown saidPassing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.




    The Repubs campaigned on promises of helping the economy and creating jobs.
    They've been in complete control of the House for almost six months and can pass whatever legislation they want - but they've done NOTHING to try to help the economy or create jobs.
    They either lied during the election or they've broken their promises.

    THAT'S THE POINT.


    Which you've missed entirely if you believe that legislation will result in jobs. In fact probably quite the opposite. Look at all that the Obama administration has "done" or the Democrats have "done" and the US is quite a bit worse off for it. The stimulus had little effect, the job situation has been chronically poor and getting worse. So we need more of the same?
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    rickrick91 said
    Flamedown saidPassing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.




    The Repubs campaigned on promises of helping the economy and creating jobs.
    They've been in complete control of the House for almost six months and can pass whatever legislation they want - but they've done NOTHING to try to help the economy or create jobs.
    They either lied during the election or they've broken their promises.

    THAT'S THE POINT.


    Which you've missed entirely if you believe that legislation will result in jobs. In fact probably quite the opposite. Look at all that the Obama administration has "done" or the Democrats have "done" and the US is quite a bit worse off for it. The stimulus had little effect, the job situation has been chronically poor and getting worse. So we need more of the same?





    Let's look at the actual record:

    Eight years of Clinton/Democratic economic policies created 23 million jobs.
    Eight years of Bush/Republican economic policies created only 3 million jobs - the worst track record on record for any president ever.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

    Eight years of Bush/Repub economic policies doubled the National Debt and created the worst recession in 70 years (the 2007-2009 Bush recession) and created only 3 million jobs in 8 years.
    "So we need more of the same?"

    WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN OVER THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE REPUB ECONOMIC POLICIES OF THE LAST REPUB PRESIDENT!
    God knows we don't need another Repub in the White House pushing the same failed economic policies!

  • GQjock

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    Jul 10, 2011 12:09 PM GMT
    Oh I DOOOO so much luv republican double speak

    Passing legislation isn't always a good thing......... 'cept when it's passing legislation to undermine the economic and political system for your cronies
    Remember the repeal of Glass-Steigle which broke down the walls between the banking and financial systems?

    WAS THAT A GOOD THING?

    Also the republicans came in on a promise for job creation
    And what did we get instead?
    A WHOLE lotta abortion legislation

    tell me if I'm wrong but since when does stopping a 16 year old who got knocked up from her boyfriend from having an abortion create jobs????
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    rickrick91 said
    Flamedown saidPassing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.




    The Repubs campaigned on promises of helping the economy and creating jobs.
    They've been in complete control of the House for almost six months and can pass whatever legislation they want - but they've done NOTHING to try to help the economy or create jobs.
    They either lied during the election or they've broken their promises.

    THAT'S THE POINT.


    RickRick,

    What the House passes doesn't become law unless the President signs it into law.

    Just a little "Civics 101" lesson for you. icon_razz.gif




    Here's a "Civics 101" lesson for you, SB.

    The Repubs are in COMPLETE CONTROL of the House.
    They can pass whatever they want.
    There's NOTHING the president can do to stop them.
    The House is an independent branch of government free from control by any president.
    If the Repubs pass legislation designed to help the economy or to create jobs and send it to the president - then they'll be ACTUALLY DOING THEIR JOBS.
    If the president opts to veto the legislation, the president will be judged on his action by the American people.
    But at least the Repubs will have TRIED to do something to help the economy or to create jobs.

    Sitting on their lazy overpaid asses and DOING NOTHING is not an option that any hardworking American is going to appreciate or tolerate.

    Class dismissed.
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    rickrick91 said
    Flamedown saidPassing more laws is not necessarily a good thing. A good argument could be made that there is too many federal laws in this country, and not to mention some of the laws could be considered mediocre.




    The Repubs campaigned on promises of helping the economy and creating jobs.
    They've been in complete control of the House for almost six months and can pass whatever legislation they want - but they've done NOTHING to try to help the economy or create jobs.
    They either lied during the election or they've broken their promises.

    THAT'S THE POINT.


    The OP made two points, the one you mentioned, and the one I commented on which the House has passed less bills than the previous Democrat house. Even if the Republicans tried to pass bills that effected job growth in the country, it is rather hard when you have a Democratic president and Senate whose philosophies on creating job growth are different from Republicans. I think both parties are equal to blame in not much being done to help the economy. Instead of reaching bipartisan agreements, they spend their time throwing partisan arguments at each other.