Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths

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    Jul 09, 2011 12:27 PM GMT
    "Calimach reveals for us who grew up with Edith Hamilton and Robert Graves just how subtly and deliberately they have suppressed that which was passionately homosexual."

    An ultimate Gay Mythology book one should read and cherishicon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gif Written by Andrew Calimach http://www.haidukpress.com icon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gif

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    "Where are our stolen stories?" That's what every guy who's ever fallen in love with another guy should be asking. When we're kids our brains are stuffed with tale after tale in which prince meets princess. But where are the old stories in which one dude fell in love with another???

    Long ago, tales of love between men, gay or not, were common but they were all stomped out by those who wanted to murder that love. Until now.

    Andrew Calimach has restored nine Greek myths, thousands of years old but still fresh today, in the prize-winning "Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths." The Greeks through these stories taught how to love – and how not to love – another male. They are the love-wisdom and culture of our forefathers.

    "Lovers' Legends" also includes "Erotes," an ancient debate between gay and straight love (Sneak preview: gay love wins). Calimach searched through museums in Europe and America and found many paintings and statues of those gay gods and heroes, pictures which fill the pages of "Lovers' Legends."

    All the Greek myths you have read were censored to fit the propaganda fed to young people today, to feel ashamed if they love another guy, and afraid to be loved by another guy. We do not have to buy into shame and fear. Here are the true stories of warrior love between Hercules and Hylas and Achilles and Patroclus, and many others tales of gods and heroes who loved each other. Read them and discover a different reality. But be careful! Once you enter that world, you can't go home again.
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    Jul 09, 2011 12:37 PM GMT
    Read what publishers/readers have to say about the book

    "Young adults will learn about mythology with new insights. Will appeal to all lovers of myth"
    — School Library Journal

    "We always knew the Greeks were that way; this long-overdue book entertainingly explains just why."
    — The Advocate

    "Engrossing. Calimach draws on his formidable research skills to uncover myths until now whitewashed. Compelling reading for all."
    — ForeWord

    "Calimach has done something very important here. There are valuable lessons in this collection even for those with a lot of knowledge about mythology. This is an attractively packaged, delightful collection of well selected and presented stories, filled with wonderful images from ancient art."
    — Bryn Mawr Classical Review

    "Calimach retells the stories without prurience and without shame."
    — assemblage (UK)

    Refreshing . . . a sheer pleasure. Read it, and read it again."
    — Gay & Lesbian Humanist (UK)

    "What fun – the naughty bits are back. Breezy but learned collection."
    — Lambda Book Report

    "A shame to consign this book to the closet. It's ideal for the library at any secondary school."
    — 3rd Stone Archeology & Myth (UK)

    "Calimach lets the myths speaks for themselves. Attractive and readable."
    — The Small Press Book Review

    "Truly a labor of love, and essential reading."
    — Gaytoday—badpuppy.com more

    "This book is a gift from the gods! A lovingly polished oeuvre—emphatically a book to buy and to prize."
    — Rapport

    "Superbly illustrated and an inspiration to anyone looking for a 'myth' to live by."
    — Living Traditions Magazine (Australia)

    "Magical reading. Don't expect to find it in your library, though."
    — Scarlet Street Magazine

    "One of the most entertaining reads you could ask for, and easily the most impressive volume of its sort."
    — White Crane Journal

    "Such a valuable contribution. Finally, the truth behind the myths."
    — The Letter, Louisville, KY

    "Bravo! This fascinating and astonishing book, suitable for everyone, is an excellent read."
    — A Storyweaver's Book Reviews

    "Literary flair and faithfulness to the original tales. Beautifully presented."
    — The Guide

    "The stories make thrilling reading . . . The debate is equally fascinating, and remarkable."
    — Echo Magazine

    "Calimach reveals for us who grew up with Edith Hamilton and Robert Graves just how subtly and deliberately they have suppressed that which was passionately homosexual."
    — Frontiers

    "Lovers' Legends packs a lot of punch into a small space."
    — Green Man Review

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    Jul 09, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
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    Jul 09, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    One can read book reviews and readers' comments on the Haiduk Press website icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif
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    Well, to be honest, the books are masterpieces icon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
    The only thing it's "High Standard Literature" helped me brush up my English Skills, especially old vocabulary icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Do you think Dino you have got serious readers on this forumicon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif
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    Jul 10, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    I'd named my old sailboat "Ganymede" and added subtle elements of Greek kitsch years before that book wound up prominently displayed in it's cabin. (Then when guests would ask about the name I could refer them to it.) For more on that boat and a real Greek Tragedy involving it, check out my post at this link: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1654100/
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    eagermuscle saidI'd named my old sailboat "Ganymede" and added subtle elements of Greek kitsch years before that book wound up prominently displayed in it's cabin. (Then when guests would ask about the name I could refer them to it.) For more on that boat and a real Greek Tragedy involving it, check out my post at this link: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1654100/


    Interesting story icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif But the link isn't the one you talked about icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif

    I'm eager to read more icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif
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    Really interesting icon_razz.gif
    Please send me to link, I can't wait more icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    eagermuscle saidI'd named my old sailboat "Ganymede" and added subtle elements of Greek kitsch years before that book wound up prominently displayed in it's cabin. (Then when guests would ask about the name I could refer them to it.) For more on that boat and a real Greek Tragedy involving it, check out my post at this link: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1654100/
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:29 PM GMT
    Awesome, will have to check it out. I wrote a great paper in college about the different types of love in Ovid's Metamorphoses and how it represented both male-female, male-male and female-female relationships. Always thought it was fascinating how apparent homosexual love was in classic lit. Wouldn't be surprised if there's some Ovid in this one!
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
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    eagermuscle saidI'd named my old sailboat "Ganymede" and added subtle elements of Greek kitsch years before that book wound up prominently displayed in it's cabin. (Then when guests would ask about the name I could refer them to it.) For more on that boat and a real Greek Tragedy involving it, check out my post at this link: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1654100/


    Interesting story icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif But the link isn't the one you talked about icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif

    I'm eager to read more icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif


    That's the right link. Go to the 2nd page and scroll about halfway down until you see the sailboat pics.
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
    Yeah kinda awesome, there is SO much gay stuff in Greek mythology and history. It's especially interesting how the Greeks had plenty of soldiers and heroes who were gay... even Achilles himself had a male lover. But when Hollywood turned it into a movie they conveniently left that part out and replaced it with a chick. I think they did the same for the Alexander the Great movie.

    I'd go back in time and tell that emperor to step up his christians vs. lions shows cause he obviously didn't hold enough of them.
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    dinoalexit saidAn ultimate Gay Mythology book one should read and cherish

    Thanks, I will now look for this. I note your main (and only) photo evokes the 19th Century photographs that attempted to recreate the antique age in which you are obviously interested. Usually showing naked boys in poses very similar to your own, a bit of pedophilia of which I do not approve. But your inspiration is quite obvious. And you've managed to look quite like them, even the slight sepia tinting correct, and very attractive.
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    Mia_Neil said
    eagermuscle saidI'd named my old sailboat "Ganymede" and added subtle elements of Greek kitsch years before that book wound up prominently displayed in it's cabin. (Then when guests would ask about the name I could refer them to it.) For more on that boat and a real Greek Tragedy involving it, check out my post at this link: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1654100/


    Interesting story icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif But the link isn't the one you talked about icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif

    I'm eager to read more icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif


    That's the right link. Go to the 2nd page and scroll about halfway down until you see the sailboat pics.



    Thank you so very much :-)
    I just got there icon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
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    dinoalexit saidAn ultimate Gay Mythology book one should read and cherish

    Thanks, I will now look for this. I note your main (and only) photo evokes the 19th Century photographs that attempted to recreate the antique age in which you are obviously interested. Usually showing naked boys in poses very similar to your own, a bit of pedophilia of which I do not approve. But your inspiration is quite obvious. And you've managed to look quite like them, and very attractive.


    Sorry Deco! I agree to what you said..The pics are old and that is why they are in my profile...Agree that they can't be approved in modern society for good.

    The pics were taken from http://www.gay-art-history

    I hope you like Andrew Calimach's work icon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
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    Art_Deco said
    dinoalexit saidAn ultimate Gay Mythology book one should read and cherish

    Thanks, I will now look for this. I note your main (and only) photo evokes the 19th Century photographs that attempted to recreate the antique age in which you are obviously interested. Usually showing naked boys in poses very similar to your own, a bit of pedophilia of which I do not approve. But your inspiration is quite obvious. And you've managed to look quite like them, and very attractive.

    Sorry Deco! I agree to what you said..The pics are old and that is why they are in my profile...Agree that they can't be approved in modern society for good.

    The pics were taken from http://www.gay-art-history

    I hope you like Andrew Calimach's work icon_razz.gificon_razz.gif

    Ah, so not you? An original 19th-Century photo? Well, I can spot them, can't I? icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    True icon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
    Modern society is trying its best to curtain the truth....Things are rapidly changing in recent years...Plenty of such work will emerge in coming years icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif

    Tazo995 saidYeah kinda awesome, there is SO much gay stuff in Greek mythology and history. It's especially interesting how the Greeks had plenty of soldiers and heroes who were gay... even Achilles himself had a male lover. But when Hollywood turned it into a movie they conveniently left that part out and replaced it with a chick. I think they did the same for the Alexander the Great movie.

    I'd go back in time and tell that emperor to step up his christians vs. lions shows cause he obviously didn't hold enough of them.
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    dinoalexit said
    Art_Deco said
    dinoalexit saidAn ultimate Gay Mythology book one should read and cherish

    Thanks, I will now look for this. I note your main (and only) photo evokes the 19th Century photographs that attempted to recreate the antique age in which you are obviously interested. Usually showing naked boys in poses very similar to your own, a bit of pedophilia of which I do not approve. But your inspiration is quite obvious. And you've managed to look quite like them, and very attractive.

    Sorry Deco! I agree to what you said..The pics are old and that is why they are in my profile...Agree that they can't be approved in modern society for good.

    The pics were taken from http://www.gay-art-history

    I hope you like Andrew Calimach's work icon_razz.gificon_razz.gif

    Ah, so not you? An original 19th-Century photo? Well, I can spot them, can't I? icon_wink.gif


    Yes you can :-)
    You can Von Gloeden's work here:

    http://tiny.cc/rfu7h
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    Jul 12, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    rbdude79 saidAwesome, will have to check it out. I wrote a great paper in college about the different types of love in Ovid's Metamorphoses and how it represented both male-female, male-male and female-female relationships. Always thought it was fascinating how apparent homosexual love was in classic lit. Wouldn't be surprised if there's some Ovid in this one!


    Thanks mate!

    You can read more about the book on the website icon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
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    A gorgeous sailboat icon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gificon_surprised.gif

    I'd love to spend some days on it :-)
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    I don't think Lost Library is available on Amazon icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif
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    Art_Deco saidAh, so not you? An original 19th-Century photo? Well, I can spot them, can't I? icon_wink.gif

    Yes you can :-)
    You can [see] Von Gloeden's work here:

    http://tiny.cc/rfu7h

    Thanks for the link. I was surprised how many of the models were circumcised, in a century when that was rare, or else had their skin pulled back. If pulled back, that really makes these antique photos très gay. Nice in any case. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Art_Deco saidAh, so not you? An original 19th-Century photo? Well, I can spot them, can't I? icon_wink.gif

    Yes you can :-)
    You can [see] Von Gloeden's work here:

    http://tiny.cc/rfu7h

    Thanks for the link. I was surprised how many of the models were circumcised, in a century when that was rare, or else had their skin pulled back. If pulled back, that really makes these antique photos très gay. Nice in any case. icon_biggrin.gif



    I can't imagine how he could manage to click an exhibit these pics in late 19th and early 20th century. Where can I read more about himicon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif

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    He was of German descent and was highly appreciated across Europe for his work icon_razz.gificon_razz.gificon_razz.gif
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    Jul 13, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
    I'd love to hear from any of you who's finished reading either of the books published by Haiduk press

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    Jul 13, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    Just ordered it yesterday!

    Tazo995 saideven Achilles himself had a male lover. But when Hollywood turned it into a movie they conveniently left that part out and replaced it with a chick.

    In the recent Troy movie, Brad Pitt has a male companion.
    And he does some pretty awful things when he's killed.
    Of course, he's out banging chicks.
    But at least the guy was there.

    While one can debate the wisdom of pulling the gods out of Greek mythology (in the Troy movie), I liked Achilles success being attributed to his working out (just figured it was appropriate to mention that on RJ).

    Maybe we should make Achilles the patron saint of RJ.... (: