OK, so I went with the New Balance Minimalist, and they are exactly what I wanted! The Saucany (sp?) are good flat shoes, but there was no snugness around the top of the foot, I didn't like that. They were light and flat, but felt flimsy.
The Frees 3.0 are HARD to find, and sold out every where. And I mean in Nike Towns, I went to two different ones and even shoe stores didn't carry the 3.0s, lot's of 5.0's and 7.0's though, not what I wanted.
But, even the run+2's and frees had too much heel. Seemed the same as a smaller heeled running shoe, but with the added mobility because of the grooves. Cool shoes, but not what I wanted for dead lifting, or squatting.
These NB's trail shoes are perfect. They are snug with a strap across the top (no velcro, just a built in strap), and practically have no heel, good for lifting. Since I can run and hike in these (I do both), these are just right.
The reebok reflex, is too much like the frees, with still more cushioning than I was looking for. I wanted flat, and I got these which are practically like rubber track shoes.
There are also NB road running shoes, but they lacked the snug strap across the top and had a bit more heel.
OH, also, when I walked around in these in the store, I felt the balls of my feet kind of pop, and they are very breathable.
Thanks for the advise fellas!
Here's a good review with pics, mine are Yellow and mostly black though.