Truvia. Stevia and the "natural" low calorie sweetners

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    Jul 16, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    Ok I love sweets. How does Truvia and Stevia and like products affect the body? They all say it is natural, zero calorie, but is it ok for you? Is it too good to be true?
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    Jul 16, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    Right now I am liking the Sobe water and truvia for the coffee.
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    Jul 16, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    any one? Any one?
  • tuffguyndc

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    Jul 16, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    i did not like the taste of stevia
  • wild_sky360

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    Jul 16, 2011 5:57 PM GMT
    I don't use much...a little on oatmeal occasionally, but I love it.
    It's actually VERY good for you and had a rough path to market. Our mafia FDA
    fought it for decades at the behest of sugar and nutrasweet interests.
    I'll post the article about health and the fight, when I find it.
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    Jul 16, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    @pecfan

    are you coming to Chicago RJ meetup?
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    Jul 16, 2011 6:01 PM GMT
    Article about health benefits, history of safe use, and FDA strangle at behest of sugar and Nutrasweet interests.
    The article is obviously dated prior to it's eventual wide release, but interesting nonetheless.

    http://www.margonaut.com/stevia.htm
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    Jul 16, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    I don't care for the taste. It has to be covered up with a little bit of sugar or other sweetener.

    I wonder about the benefits. If the research about artificial sweeteners tricking the body with the sweet taste and causing weight problems, wouldn't the same be true of stevia? I guess we'll have to wait until they research it more.
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    Jul 16, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    Thanks for the info and yes I plan to be at the meet up in Chicago
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    Jul 16, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidI don't care for the taste. It has to be covered up with a little bit of sugar or other sweetener.

    I wonder about the benefits. If the research about artificial sweeteners tricking the body with the sweet taste and causing weight problems, wouldn't the same be true of stevia? I guess we'll have to wait until they research it more.


    I know the theory you're referring to, but this is a natural food. Granted I haven't personally followed up on these claims, but I've been aware of the research that is out there for some time. It seems to indicate the opposite for this product.

  • tautomer

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    Jul 16, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Just use sugar. Your biology is designed specifically to digest sugar and uptake it as energy. There is all this sigma that sugar is bad, but you actually need it to live. Just don't over do it. Simple.
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    Jul 16, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidi did not like the taste of stevia
    x2

    I've got a whole bag of the shit, and don't want it. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 16, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    I agree it has been around over ten years, and had a hard time becoming available. Nutritionists were talking about it a decade ago. I have not seen any bad reports, and since it comes from nature, there may not be. I was raised on southern ice tea, very sweet. Now I buy unsweetened tea and add stevia liquid, and cant tell the difference. I love it.
    Latest findings on sugar, from the cane....it also raises blood pressure like salt!!
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    Jul 16, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    wild_sky360 said
    DudeInNOVA saidI don't care for the taste. It has to be covered up with a little bit of sugar or other sweetener.

    I wonder about the benefits. If the research about artificial sweeteners tricking the body with the sweet taste and causing weight problems, wouldn't the same be true of stevia? I guess we'll have to wait until they research it more.


    I know the theory you're referring to, but this is a natural food. Granted I haven't personally followed up on these claims, but I've been aware of the research that is out there for some time. It seems to indicate the opposite for this product.




    Yes, Stevia, the extract from the stevia plant, is a natural food, but the sweeteners Truvia and PureVia are only chemically derived from stevia plants that have been genetically altered and are not really natural. They are pure forms of the chemical rebaudioside A. Sucralose comes from sugar, but you wouldn't really call it natural.
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    Jul 16, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    tautomer4314 saidJust use sugar. Your biology is designed specifically to digest sugar and uptake it as energy. There is all this sigma that sugar is bad, but you actually need it to live. Just don't over do it. Simple.


    Glucose is the only macronutrient you can go completely without.

    To get back to the original question: you should remember that Stevia was discovered because there were some Amazon indigenous people who had diabetes II but no significant problems from it. So the large amounts of Stevia tea that they drank helped regulate their blood sugar but in my opinion the real question is why these people had diabetes II in the first place. They are hunter-gatherers - type II is usually extremely rare in these populations.


    EDIT: Just wanted to add that glucose is synthesized by the body from protein when levels get low. So if you completely remove carbs from your diet you will be making your own carbs from expensive protein.
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    Jul 16, 2011 8:56 PM GMT
    wild_sky360 saidI know the theory you're referring to, but this is a natural food. Granted I haven't personally followed up on these claims, but I've been aware of the research that is out there for some time. It seems to indicate the opposite for this product.


    I know what you mean, but I'm skeptical of the claims that because it's natural, it's automatically better for you. Don't get me wrong - I eat as natural as possible. I just hear a lot of hype about natural foods, and I'm not always convinced that our bodies can tell the difference. We'll see in time, I guess.

    Paulin saidLatest findings on sugar, from the cane....it also raises blood pressure like salt!!


    Really? Since when? I have low blood pressure, and I have to eat of lot salt to keep it raised. I wouldn't want to eat a lot of sugar because then I'd just gain weight, obviously, but it might be something for me to consider when I'm choosing my calorie sources.
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    Jul 17, 2011 8:01 AM GMT
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    tuffguyndc saidi did not like the taste of stevia
    x2

    I've got a whole bag of the shit, and don't want it. icon_lol.gif


    Was it stevia leaf powder (a green powder)? I bought that and hated it too.

    But I thought Truvia was fine....
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    Jul 17, 2011 9:24 AM GMT
    Iceblink saidYes, Stevia, the extract from the stevia plant, is a natural food, but the sweeteners Truvia and PureVia are only chemically derived from stevia plants that have been genetically altered and are not really natural. They are pure forms of the chemical rebaudioside A. Sucralose comes from sugar, but you wouldn't really call it natural.


    Oh ..great...another fucking scam.
    The stevia issue dropped off my radar, and then I saw Truvia, and liked it. I don't really use sugar or any sweeteners, regularly; so no biggie.

    So, regardless of taste preference, the only way this natural product can come to market is after it's been chemically altered, and patented? I was wondering how it went from suppressed to ubiquitous overnight.
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    Jul 17, 2011 9:40 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA said
    I know what you mean, but I'm skeptical of the claims that because it's natural, it's automatically better for you. Don't get me wrong - I eat as natural as possible. I just hear a lot of hype about natural foods, and I'm not always convinced that our bodies can tell the difference. We'll see in time, I guess


    And I understand where you're coming from. The flags go up for me too. There is so much BS out there...or more accurately..so little truth. There are a few sources I still feel I can rely on. Mercola, though carrying everything to the n'th degree, does his own research. He was a fan of stevia, but I don't recall any endorsements for the commercial products like truvia. I assumed it was the same thing, just as the producers intended.
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    Jul 17, 2011 11:52 AM GMT
    I use liquid stevia in my fat free plain yogurt and sometimes in oatmeal and I like it, but I have never used a lot of sugar so I don't have much to compare it too ( my thing is salt and fat like chips etc).
    I've inhierited so many bags or bottles of stevia from friends and family that it does seem pretty unpopular.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
    Leave it to a megacorporation to take a useful natural product and turn it into crap. At health food stores, you can get purified stevia extract that doesn't have any added garbage. They also have purified stevia extract that is bulked up with erythritol to make it spoonable; personally, I avoid the spoonable versions. If you're concerned about synergy and holistic woo, powdered stevia leaf and liquid whole leaf extracts are also available, but IMO, they taste terrible.
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    Jul 17, 2011 1:05 PM GMT
    i was afraid of the taste too! i know stevia is safe since its been used since the 17th century with no major effects, any opinions on splenda?
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    Jul 17, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
    tautomer4314 saidJust use sugar. Your biology is designed specifically to digest sugar and uptake it as energy. There is all this sigma that sugar is bad, but you actually need it to live. Just don't over do it. Simple.


    +1

    Ive resolved to do this. I use sugar in the raw, which is less processed, and i prefer the taste. Just for coffee and oatmeal. i dont put sugar in anything else- well, honey in tea.
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    Jul 17, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
    I've been using Truvia for about 2 years now (more of less)

    I have just been reading up on a few things & some folks aren't really pushing use of the product.

    I like the taste and use it a lot throughout the day. I should consider looking into some other options possibly...
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    Jul 18, 2011 6:44 AM GMT
    huasqui said
    tautomer4314 saidJust use sugar. Your biology is designed specifically to digest sugar and uptake it as energy. There is all this sigma that sugar is bad, but you actually need it to live. Just don't over do it. Simple.


    +1

    Ive resolved to do this. I use sugar in the raw, which is less processed, and i prefer the taste. Just for coffee and oatmeal. i dont put sugar in anything else- well, honey in tea.
    Try agave nectar with unsweetened soymilk. It's like an orgasm in your mouth. icon_biggrin.gif