Psychedelics

  • tautomer

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    Jul 16, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    I am fascinated by psychedelics. For two main reasons. The first of which is I am a chemistry student (soon to be grad student). Second of which is I have a great interest in psychology, and I have studied personality theories in particular for years. It's almost like a match made in heaven. Not only it there great complex chemistry (and synthesis therewithin) and biochemistry with how they function, it effects the mind and psychology of the individual. Best of both worlds! Consequently, I know a lot about them, and how they work on a biological level as well.

    It seems like many individuals however either have no interest, know little, or outright afraid of even the idea of psychedelics. I can understand why though.

    So, RJ, I ask you. What is your opinion on psychedelics. Ever done any research about them? Ever daring enough to actually try any for yourself? Know anyone who has ever done them, and what did you think of them for doing so? Anything and everything in between.

    Discuss!
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    Jul 16, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
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    Jul 16, 2011 10:55 PM GMT
    LSD is a toy drug. It was cool in high school, but then I grew up.
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    Jul 16, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
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  • Syphon

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:01 AM GMT
    Magic mushrooms are amazing.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:17 AM GMT

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    I had a gewd trip a few weeks ago actually. Cambodian Copperheads. yah-yay.

    There was a study done by John Hopkins University that someone posted in the news forum. It was quite interesting. It talked about how people who recieved doses of psilocybin (or however it's spelled) report having a more positive take on life.

    Cool shit.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    Yup. In this case I am scared. My dreams are vivid enough let alone living them while awake. Plus with my luck I would be in the percent that would be permanently mentally damaged and have to live in a funny farm
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    They scare the hell out of me. You couldn't pay me enough to take that shit, not knowing what it's going to do to me.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    It would be interesting to do some vestibular and oculomotor testing on someone that is high on LSD or mushrooms. In my lab the closest we get is some people have a few drinks before hand.
    Now the term psychedelics is a pretty vague term. I'm guessing you are referring to any and all mind altering substances (psychoactives).
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    But we do know what it would do. It's really not as scary as you think. Just don't down 10 grams in 10 minutes and you are going to be fine.




    Scruffypup saidThey scare the hell out of me. You couldn't pay me enough to take that shit, not knowing what it's going to do to me.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidBut we do know what it would do. It's really not as scary as you think. Just don't down 10 grams in 10 minutes and you are going to be fine.




    Scruffypup saidThey scare the hell out of me. You couldn't pay me enough to take that shit, not knowing what it's going to do to me.



    I've already spent years in therapy for panic disorder. If I took something that was counter productive I'm sure I'd just kill myself.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:29 AM GMT
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    Scruffypup said
    ConfederateGhost saidBut we do know what it would do. It's really not as scary as you think. Just don't down 10 grams in 10 minutes and you are going to be fine.




    Scruffypup saidThey scare the hell out of me. You couldn't pay me enough to take that shit, not knowing what it's going to do to me.



    I've already spent years in therapy for panic disorder. If I took something that was counter productive I'm sure I'd just kill myself.
  • tautomer

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    deltalimen saidIt would be interesting to do some vestibular and oculomotor testing on someone that is high on LSD or mushrooms. In my lab the closest we get is some people have a few drinks before hand.
    Now the term psychedelics is a pretty vague term. I'm guessing you are referring to any and all mind altering substances (psychoactives).


    That would be very very interesting indeed. One thing I thought would be interesting would be to test galvanic skin response in indivuduals who are high on MDMA. Due to it being so sensory and tactile base it would be interesting to see if it is truly all in the brain, or if nerve impulses in the skin itself respond more too.

    And yes, I mean psychoactive drugs. Mostly the tryptamines and phenylethylamines.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    Well, arguably even if there is skin response, isn't that still connected to the brain?

    And when you do shrooms, not only does touch intensify but so does smell, sight, sound, and taste.



    tautomer4314 said
    deltalimen saidIt would be interesting to do some vestibular and oculomotor testing on someone that is high on LSD or mushrooms. In my lab the closest we get is some people have a few drinks before hand.
    Now the term psychedelics is a pretty vague term. I'm guessing you are referring to any and all mind altering substances (psychoactives).


    That would be very very interesting indeed. One thing I thought would be interesting would be to test galvanic skin response in indivuduals who are high on MDMA. Due to it being so sensory and tactile base it would be interesting to see if it is truly all in the brain, or if nerve impulses in the skin itself respond more too.

    And yes, I mean psychoactive drugs. Mostly the tryptamines and phenylethylamines.
  • tautomer

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    ConfederateGhost saidBut we do know what it would do. It's really not as scary as you think. Just don't down 10 grams in 10 minutes and you are going to be fine.




    Scruffypup saidThey scare the hell out of me. You couldn't pay me enough to take that shit, not knowing what it's going to do to me.



    I've already spent years in therapy for panic disorder. If I took something that was counter productive I'm sure I'd just kill myself.


    It's all about set and setting. These compounds are very very strong and true, some individuals really can not handle them or tolerate them well. If you have a panic disorder, and you know yourself, then it's best not to do them. That being said, it actually is not all that hard to predict what it will do, in regards to the sensory sensations and mental effects. Each drug has a specefic list of effects. It's the individual that makes it personal.

    I'll say this to anyone though. If your afraid, and don't want to do them or experience them, then for the love of god don't. It will very very likely cause a bad and traumatic experience.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidI survived the 70's and the psychedelics... they made for some memorable times indeed!
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  • tautomer

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    Jul 17, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidWell, arguably even if there is skin response, isn't that still connected to the brain?

    And when you do shrooms, not only does touch intensify but so does smell, sight, sound, and taste.



    tautomer4314 said
    deltalimen saidIt would be interesting to do some vestibular and oculomotor testing on someone that is high on LSD or mushrooms. In my lab the closest we get is some people have a few drinks before hand.
    Now the term psychedelics is a pretty vague term. I'm guessing you are referring to any and all mind altering substances (psychoactives).


    That would be very very interesting indeed. One thing I thought would be interesting would be to test galvanic skin response in indivuduals who are high on MDMA. Due to it being so sensory and tactile base it would be interesting to see if it is truly all in the brain, or if nerve impulses in the skin itself respond more too.

    And yes, I mean psychoactive drugs. Mostly the tryptamines and phenylethylamines.


    It is connected to the brain, but it would still be an interesting study no less The brain could just read signals amped way up (more sensitive). Idk, I just like to poke around with things icon_biggrin.gif.

    Eh for me it's all sensory and tactile. I never noticed a difference in smell or taste. Sounds go nuts, and visual is slight, but I have to focus to notice. Everyone is different and there are permutations there within to what someone will experience.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:38 AM GMT
    I can agree that everyone is different, however I have noticed that many people's basic experiences are the same.

    Ever heard of a group called "Rainbow"?

    tautomer4314 said
    ConfederateGhost saidWell, arguably even if there is skin response, isn't that still connected to the brain?

    And when you do shrooms, not only does touch intensify but so does smell, sight, sound, and taste.



    tautomer4314 said
    deltalimen saidIt would be interesting to do some vestibular and oculomotor testing on someone that is high on LSD or mushrooms. In my lab the closest we get is some people have a few drinks before hand.
    Now the term psychedelics is a pretty vague term. I'm guessing you are referring to any and all mind altering substances (psychoactives).


    That would be very very interesting indeed. One thing I thought would be interesting would be to test galvanic skin response in indivuduals who are high on MDMA. Due to it being so sensory and tactile base it would be interesting to see if it is truly all in the brain, or if nerve impulses in the skin itself respond more too.

    And yes, I mean psychoactive drugs. Mostly the tryptamines and phenylethylamines.


    It is connected to the brain, but it would still be an interesting study no less The brain could just read signals amped way up (more sensitive). Idk, I just like to poke around with things icon_biggrin.gif.

    Eh for me it's all sensory and tactile. I never noticed a difference in smell or taste. Sounds go nuts, and visual is slight, but I have to focus to notice. Everyone is different and there are permutations there within to what someone will experience.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    For me, half of the world wouldn't exist if not for psychedelic drugs.
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    Been there, done that. Good times, but I chose to stop before I destroyed too many brain cells.

    I guess you could start by reading Huxley's "Doors of Perception" or if you live near an aging hippie population, go visit a drug treatment facility.

    I've done mushrooms and mescaline, and some Ecstasy had a psychedelic property. I had a good time tripping at the beach, in Golden Gate Park, and at several National Parks. I'm a visual person and an artist, and they were a lot of fun.
    Some of my friends wanted me to paint while I was tripping, but I never did. First, I'd rather be interacting with my friends who were also tripping than in my own world (painting). Two, probably the bigger one, I was afraid that once I did, I would have to trip all the time in order to pain (like a crutch).

    Is this what you wanted to know?
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    So if I decided to try the stuff (and I doubt I ever will), what do you think it would do to someone like myself?
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    Jul 17, 2011 12:44 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidSo if I decided to try the stuff (and I doubt I ever will), what do you think it would do to someone like myself?



    with you and me both! Wat would it do to me when my anxiety escalates to near paranoia?


    i did shrooms in my 20s but my brain had not taken the shitkicking yet. It was a pleasant euphoric experience then.