Are you willing to flee your country?

  • beaujangle

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    Jul 18, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
    In bad economic times (& the future seems so uncertain), do you think you may migrate to greener pastures?
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    Jul 18, 2011 2:18 PM GMT

    Nope. Our country gave us our freedoms and equality. We made our fortunes, as modest as some may think them, in this country. We were helped when young, and our parents helped by our country and so feel that when when our country needs help it should be reciprocated.

    We're patriotic.
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    Jul 18, 2011 2:27 PM GMT
    The thought already crossed my mind several times; but I haven't done any serious planning.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Jul 18, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
    Oh if only I could. Any Canadian guys looking for a marriage of convenience? ;)
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    Jul 18, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    I don't believe in patriotism, but I can't imagine going anywhere else right now. I'll admit that several years ago I thought of returning to Spain. However, Spain's economy is in worse shape than the US's and unemployment there is over 20%! Obviously now wouldn't be a great time to move back to the former motherland.

    Things are tough now, but good things can come out of a little bit of suffering. I've always believed you can learn some valuable lessons from going through hard times. Plus there are many countries much worse off than here. Besides, I already made the mistake of relocating last year. The grass was completely brown (San Antonio, TX - yuck!), so I ended up moving back to Northern VA.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 18, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidIn bad economic times (& the future seems so uncertain), do you think you may migrate to greener pastures?



    And where might those "greener pastures" be?
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    Jul 18, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
    I have
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    Jul 18, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
    Canadians now taking applications for marriage. Give us your smart, pretty, and strong (cuz it gets a lil chilly here now and then...).
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    Jul 18, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    Did it already...
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    Jul 18, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    Yup already did.

    Patriotism is reserved for my new home only.
  • germanguy888

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    Jul 18, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    yes! why do you think I have two citizenships
  • tazzari

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    Jul 18, 2011 4:43 PM GMT
    Well, I've thought of leaving, but not for economic reasons. in my case, I love London and enjoy every minute I spend there - so why not move there? And every now and then I get so fed up with right-wing christianists that I'd love to go some place where they get ignored, they way they should be.

    But for economic reasons? No way. We're all in this together (except CEO's and the very wealthy, who are different and better than we are).
  • rnch

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    Jul 18, 2011 5:00 PM GMT
    it has never even occured to me to leave the United States of America!





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    Jul 18, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidIn bad economic times (& the future seems so uncertain), do you think you may migrate to greener pastures?


    do you think it is so easy for the average person to migrate to another country?
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    Jul 18, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    The only time Ill flee is when Julius Malema becomes president of our country.

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    Jul 18, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    beaujangle saidIn bad economic times (& the future seems so uncertain), do you think you may migrate to greener pastures?


    do you think it is so easy for the average person to migrate to another country?



    No its not. I relocated from S. Africa to Israel from there to the UK and then back to S. Africa
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    Jul 18, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
    My family constantly did It's why as a kid i moved every 1.5 years to a new country.. not exactly due to bad economic times but just better business opportunities
  • Syphon

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    Jul 18, 2011 7:01 PM GMT
    Well duh, why not?

    If my country goes to shit, hell yes I'm going to go somewhere with a higher standard of living.
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidI don't believe in patriotism


    How can you not believe in patriotism? This country is great. It's not perfect by any means, but just think of what we were founded on. Our founding fathers included those words "We the people" for a reason. Though the definition of "people" is still exclusive in the Constitutions entirety, it has expanded like wildfire from the original "rich white male" exclusion. They challenged British Parliament with a radical idea that had never quite worked in the past. Democracy. This country was birthed to allow you and me to stand up for our inalienable rights and fight for what we believe in. We are escaping the dark ages for gays and I bet within 15, 20 years the discrimination against gays will subside. Finally we have Republicans as well as Democrats standing up to this bullshit Anti-gay marriage movement. Our country is and always has been headed in the right direction. Step by step and inch by inch, but there have been few accounts of regression of peoples freedoms.

    And damn it! I am proud to be an American! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
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    pocketnico saidI don't believe in patriotism


    How can you not believe in patriotism? This country is great. It's not perfect by any means, but just think of what we were founded on. Our founding fathers included those words "We the people" for a reason. Though the definition of "people" is still exclusive in the Constitutions entirety, it has expanded like wildfire from the original "rich white male" exclusion. They challenged British Parliament with a radical idea that had never quite worked in the past. Democracy. This country was birthed to allow you and me to stand up for our inalienable rights and fight for what we believe in. We are escaping the dark ages for gays and I bet within 15, 20 years the discrimination against gays will subside. Finally we have Republicans as well as Democrats standing up to this bullshit Anti-gay marriage movement. Our country is and always has been headed in the right direction. Step by step and inch by inch, but there have been few accounts of regression of peoples freedoms.

    And damn it! I am proud to be an American! icon_biggrin.gif


    I'm just an individualist. I see myself more as being proud of myself and proud of my parents and closest friends rather than extending it to America as a whole. Culture is subjective and created by humans. The United States of America is simply a geographical boundary made by men. Nationality is irrelevant to me. I like where I am with my life right now, and it just happens to be in the USA. Before my life used to be in Spain. And who knows where my life will take me later on. I like to think that my doors are open for opportunity and that I'm willing adapt wherever I go.
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    I grew up on the border between two countries, of which I have double nationality for both. I've always felt part of both and neither at the same time.
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    swmrh911 said
    pocketnico saidI don't believe in patriotism


    How can you not believe in patriotism? This country is great. It's not perfect by any means, but just think of what we were founded on. Our founding fathers included those words "We the people" for a reason. Though the definition of "people" is still exclusive in the Constitutions entirety, it has expanded like wildfire from the original "rich white male" exclusion. They challenged British Parliament with a radical idea that had never quite worked in the past. Democracy. This country was birthed to allow you and me to stand up for our inalienable rights and fight for what we believe in. We are escaping the dark ages for gays and I bet within 15, 20 years the discrimination against gays will subside. Finally we have Republicans as well as Democrats standing up to this bullshit Anti-gay marriage movement. Our country is and always has been headed in the right direction. Step by step and inch by inch, but there have been few accounts of regression of peoples freedoms.

    And damn it! I am proud to be an American! icon_biggrin.gif


    You're a typical American: "How can you not believe in patriotism? This country is great".

    Patriotism can also apply to other people in other countries. You know, those places beyond your borders where you obviously never been or know anything about. I think they're marked on your maps as white spots.

    Your rant on democracy and going in the right direction is stupid btw.
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    Haha alright pocketnico...I won't shove this down your throat, but just from traveling outside the US, I've realized how imperfectly perfect our system really is. The American Dream still thrives over a century later, and even though we are in an economic rut, we still have such a small/wealthy lower class in comparison to nearly every other country. And the even more incredible thing about those people if that half of them are just too lazy or comfortable with a lowly unemployment check from the tax payer that they don't seek the opportunity in front of them.

    Hell even fry cooks at Mcdonalds can dream big.
  • mybud

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    Jul 18, 2011 7:35 PM GMT
    You don't bale when things get tough....You pick up your nuts and make do til better times roll back around...and history shows it will....BUD
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    Jul 18, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    ive been all over the world and i never feel at home until im back in America. I would live other places (and have) but i'd never call anywhere else home. i'm proud to serve in the US Navy and im proud to be American cuz in all my travels ive yet to find a place where i feel so completely comfortable being myself. i would never turn my back on my Lady!