ARE THE REPUBS ABOUT TO CAVE ON THE DEBT DEAL?

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    Jul 21, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
    The Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year.
    If the Repubs agree to a debt ceiling deal that does nothing to stop the expiration of the Bush tax cuts - which they've refused to consider until today - that would mean that the rich will start paying higher Clinton-era tax rates in about 5 months.
    There are numerous reports that Obama and Boehner are working on a deal that would make spending cuts, but would do nothing to stop the expiraion of the Bush tax cuts.

    WHICH MEANS THAT THE REPUBS MAY BE ABOUT TO CAVE ON RAISING TAXES ON THE RICH.

    Which would hand President Obama a HUGE victory.

    It would also mean that Obama and the Dems will have suceeded in forcing the Repubs to bow to the will of the American people.
    http://www.politicususa.com/en/polls-taxes-deficit
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    Jul 21, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    There was never a deal to have the tax cuts extended indefinitely, so if the Republicans were to agree, it would not be a defeat for them. Sorry RickRick - you're so desperate you'll grasp at anything.
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    Jul 21, 2011 10:32 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    It would also mean that Obama and the Dems will have suceeded in forcing the Repubs to bow to the will of the American people.
    http://www.politicususa.com/en/polls-taxes-deficit



    These polls that claim that "The majority of Americans Support Tax Increases" always amuse me. They may support it, that is of course until you actually do raise their taxes -- then that "alleged" support goes right out the window.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 21, 2011 10:51 PM GMT
    Ummm ......

    ZIEG HEIL .... Grover Norquist just came out and said

    Well ....technically allowing the Bush Tax Cuts to expire isn't r-e-a-l-l-y raising taxes

    Grover Norquist: Did anti-tax activist blink on Bush tax cuts?
    By
    Christine Delargy
    Grover Norquist, the head of the anti-tax group Americans for Tax Reform, told the Washington Post that an expiration of the Bush tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 would not technically be a tax increase and therefore would not be violation of his pledge, signed by most Republicans in Congress.

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    Jul 21, 2011 11:59 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidThere was never a deal to have the tax cuts extended indefinitely, so if the Republicans were to agree, it would not be a defeat for them. Sorry RickRick - you're so desperate you'll grasp at anything.



    LOL!
    The Repubs have repeatedly said they wouldn't agree to raise the debt ceiling if it meant higher taxes on the rich.
    They insisted that making the Bush tax cuts permanent must be part of the deal to lift the debt ceiling.

    If the Repubs agree to a deal to lift the debt ceiling that allows the Bush tax cuts to expire in a few months - then the Repubs will have caved.
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    Jul 22, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    socalfitness saidThere was never a deal to have the tax cuts extended indefinitely, so if the Republicans were to agree, it would not be a defeat for them. Sorry RickRick - you're so desperate you'll grasp at anything.



    LOL!
    The Repubs have repeatedly said they wouldn't agree to raise the debt ceiling if it meant higher taxes on the rich.
    They insisted that making the Bush tax cuts permanent must be part of the deal to lift the debt ceiling.

    If the Repubs agree to a deal to lift the debt ceiling that allows the Bush tax cuts to expire in a few months - then the Repubs will have caved.


    I love your asinine qualifications like: "on the rich", as though raising taxes only affects the rich and as though there's some special agenda to protect the rich and disenfranchise the poor, instead of just letting individuals keep more of their own money in general regardless of their level of monetary success.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 22, 2011 1:31 AM GMT
    Obama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

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    Jul 22, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidObama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

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    Did you happen to see the analysis from Public Policy Poling, link in the other thread that I started? Obama is in a terrible situation, and the trend is getting even worse. In any event, hope you're only drinking the Kool Aid off the job.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 22, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidObama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

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    Did you happen to see the analysis from Public Policy Poling, link in the other thread that I started? Obama is in a terrible situation, and the trend is getting even worse. In any event, hope you're only drinking the Kool Aid off the job.


    Um, I didn't read your thread, John.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 22, 2011 11:06 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidObama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

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    Did you happen to see the analysis from Public Policy Poling, link in the other thread that I started? Obama is in a terrible situation, and the trend is getting even worse. In any event, hope you're only drinking the Kool Aid off the job.


    Sorry that you are set to trolling the internet to attempt to help your cause but it's been shown again and again and again that the public NOT only wants the debt ceiling raised but that they want tax es to be brought back to Clinton era levels as well and in ALL polls Obama leads the republicans on who they side with
    .... and as an aside ? ... The unsweetened kool-aid is better for the waistline icon_wink.gif
  • GQjock

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    Jul 22, 2011 11:12 AM GMT
    The Governor of Virginia had been a Huge proponent of the Raise the Debt Limit - NO WAY Crowd ....

    Until he found out that his State was first on line to have its credit rating dropped .... Ooopsey!!!!!

    earlier this week, the credit rating agency Moody’s warned that five states — Virginia, Maryland, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Tennessee — could have their credit downgraded if the federal government’s credit rating goes down, “because their dependence on federal revenue makes them vulnerable to a U.S. credit cut.” In response, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) urged Congress to come to a debt ceiling compromise “immediately“:

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/21/274428/mcdonnell-debt-ceiling-flip-flop-credit/
  • rnch

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    Jul 22, 2011 11:17 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidObama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

    icon_biggrin.gif

    Did you happen to see the analysis from Public Policy Poling, link in the other thread that I started? Obama is in a terrible situation, and the trend is getting even worse. In any event, hope you're only drinking the Kool Aid off the job.






    lord piffle is seriously deluded as to what the "Real World" is like now; what with having his head in a dark, damp place for SO long now.....



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    lord piffle, southbeach jane, riddler....WHY are they allowed to stay on this website? all the do is post negative "cut & paste" conservative political crapppppp...do ANY of their posts address any the other topics discussed here on RJ?


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    Jul 22, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]rnch said[/cite]
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidObama is certainly in a commanding position (as he should be). The polls are with him and provided a deal is struck, he'll look like the good guy in the face of the
    repub "inflexibles". I hope the victory will signify his march toward victory in 2012.
    Good things certainly can happen.

    icon_biggrin.gif

    Did you happen to see the analysis from Public Policy Poling, link in the other thread that I started? Obama is in a terrible situation, and the trend is getting even worse. In any event, hope you're only drinking the Kool Aid off the job.






    lord piffle is seriously deluded as to what the "Real World" is like now; what with having his head in a dark, damp place for SO long now.....



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    Is that what happened?
    I was wondering how socal got to be the Lord of Delusion.