Obama is PISSED

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    Jul 22, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    And rightfully so. Boehner just needs to go. The Republicans are sick fucks doing this to these people.
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    Jul 22, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
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    Jul 22, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidAnd rightfully so. Boehner just needs to go. The Republicans are sick fucks doing this to these people.


    I don't think Boehner is the real problem, it is the 87 new Republican members of the House of Representatives who were sent to Washington with a clear mandate re. cutting the deficit without any tax increases.

    Although people are still saying there will be a deal, I would not be surprised if the USA stumbles into a crises. I don't think people remember the lessons of 2008. Although the stock market and bond market are not really jittery now, they can turn very ugly, very quickly, if confidence is lost and the financial system seizes up.
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    Jul 22, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    wrestlervic saidAnd rightfully so. Boehner just needs to go. The Republicans are sick fucks doing this to these people.



    Do you understand what Obama was offering?

    $1 trillion in cuts. The flip side of that is an additional $15 trillion added to the national debt.

    Not acceptable.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-will-still-seek-a-4-trillion-debt-deal-despite-gop-opposition-aides-say/2011/07/10/gIQAOKq86H_story.html
    $4 trillion in cuts over 10 years and $800 billion in revenue.
    $1.5 trillion is the McConnell-Reid plan.

    The "small" deals are the $1-2 trillion in cuts that Republicans want him to take...and will probably take now.
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    Jul 22, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    southbeach1500 said
    wrestlervic saidAnd rightfully so. Boehner just needs to go. The Republicans are sick fucks doing this to these people.



    Do you understand what Obama was offering?

    $1 trillion in cuts. The flip side of that is an additional $15 trillion added to the national debt.

    Not acceptable.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-will-still-seek-a-4-trillion-debt-deal-despite-gop-opposition-aides-say/2011/07/10/gIQAOKq86H_story.html
    $4 trillion in cuts over 10 years and $800 billion in revenue.
    $1.5 trillion is the McConnell-Reid plan.

    The "small" deals are the $1-2 trillion in cuts that have Republicans want him to take...and will probably take now.


    Stop trying to confuse SB with facts.
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    Jul 22, 2011 11:30 PM GMT
    Well, clearly you haven't been following the negotiations very closely. $4 trillion/$800 billion has always been his goal, until Cantor walked out, and now Boehner.
    The short term "small" deals have apparently now been rejected as well.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-kleinAt this point, there are three serious options on the table. A $4 trillion deal that includes some revenues, a $1 trillion-$2 trillion deal that’s all spending cuts but leaves much of the job until after the election, and a deal in which Republicans don’t come to a negotiated agreement with President Obama but they grant him the authority -- and let him take the blame -- for raising the debt ceiling. Those are our three options, and Congress needs to pick one. Time is running short.
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    Jul 22, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidWell, clearly you haven't been following the negotiations very closely. $4 trillion/$800 billion has always been his goal, until Cantor walked out, and now Boehner.
    The short term "small" deals have apparently now been rejected as well.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-kleinAt this point, there are three serious options on the table. A $4 trillion deal that includes some revenues, a $1 trillion-$2 trillion deal that’s all spending cuts but leaves much of the job until after the election, and a deal in which Republicans don’t come to a negotiated agreement with President Obama but they grant him the authority -- and let him take the blame -- for raising the debt ceiling. Those are our three options, and Congress needs to pick one. Time is running short.


    Thanks for at least admitting you're not up to date on where they were when negotiations broke down.... which was $1 trillion in cuts over 10 years PLUS new taxes.


    Please find me the source of just $1 trillion in cuts OVER 10 YEARS.

    From the up to date CNN article (7:35 pm), the Gang of Six plan:
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/22/debt.talks/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
    proposes $3.7 trillion in cuts over 10 years and $1 trillion in revenues. Obama praised this plan.

    How come Boehner didn't take up this plan?

    Maybe this is what you're referring to:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-rejects-conservative-budget-proposal-as-obama-boehner-reach-for-grand-bargain/2011/07/22/gIQAzskYTI_story.html?hpid=z1Obama told reporters at the White House Friday evening that he had offered Boehner more than $1 trillion in cuts to discretionary spending — both domestic and defense — and $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. He said he had sought revenues that were less than those put forward in a bipartisan plan by the Senate’s “Gang of Six.” He said the $1.2 trillion in revenues could be accomplished without raising tax rates but by eliminating loopholes, tax breaks and deductions.


    That does not say over how long these cuts are going to be made. In fact, the cuts are MORE when compared to the Gang of Six plan:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/us/politics/23fiscal.html?_r=1&hp
    In his comments, Mr. Obama described a package of spending cuts that he said was more generous than what the so-called Gang of Six had offered and said it was “hard to understand” why Mr. Boehner would walk away.
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    Jul 22, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
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    Jul 23, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    q1w2e3 said
    southbeach1500 said
    wrestlervic saidAnd rightfully so. Boehner just needs to go. The Republicans are sick fucks doing this to these people.



    Do you understand what Obama was offering?

    $1 trillion in cuts. The flip side of that is an additional $15 trillion added to the national debt.

    Not acceptable.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-will-still-seek-a-4-trillion-debt-deal-despite-gop-opposition-aides-say/2011/07/10/gIQAOKq86H_story.html
    $4 trillion in cuts over 10 years and $800 billion in revenue.
    $1.5 trillion is the McConnell-Reid plan.

    The "small" deals are the $1-2 trillion in cuts that have Republicans want him to take...and will probably take now.


    Stop trying to confuse SB with facts.






    yeh, we all here know that southbeach jane doesn't "deal" with facts well...





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    Jul 23, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    "Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart from much of the world."
    --Ronald Reagan, 1986
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    Jul 23, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 said"Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart from much of the world."
    --Ronald Reagan, 1986


    As much as I'm loathe to agree with Reagan, he is right. The Republicans are engaging in political-economic terrorism. They should be tried for treason.
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    Jul 23, 2011 11:26 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    q1w2e3 said"Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart from much of the world."
    --Ronald Reagan, 1986


    As much as I'm loathe to agree with Reagan, he is right. The Republicans are engaging in political-economic terrorism. They should be tried for treason.





    the Republicans will be tried, convicted and voted OUT of office in the next elections.




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  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 23, 2011 1:06 PM GMT
    Well I would have phrased it differently than Vic, but the republicans don't seem to be doing much to help solve the issues at hand. If that continues, they will be "burned at the voting booth" come next year....

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    Jul 23, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    Obama is pissed because he did not get his own way and has a hissy fit, nothing I have not experienced here, or been the target of either. Maybe the Republican want to cut the spending, and not raise it, to protect the people of America from being Chinese owned. Now if the shoes was on the other foot many of you guys would be screaming like wet cats.

    But then when I vote I put my country first and not my dick, this may be a major difference between us here.