Neanderthals had sex with humans, says DNA

  • metta

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    Jul 24, 2011 4:09 AM GMT
    Neanderthals had sex with humans, says DNA

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43866502/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/neanderthals-had-sex-humans-says-dna/
  • kew1

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    Jul 24, 2011 7:13 AM GMT
    msnbc are being a bit slow - I read this months ago on a google news link. Just checked & I got a may 2010 date .
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    Jul 24, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    jprichva said.....and many of the resulting offspring joined RJ.

    You know who you are.


    Hey that's an insult to the Neanderthals. I demand a retraction. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 24, 2011 2:27 PM GMT
    That's not news at all. I've had sex with lots of Neanderthals. I live in South Beach, for God's sake.
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    Jul 25, 2011 1:21 PM GMT
    See? If they allow gay marriage... next thing you know....
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    Jul 25, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
    miamimasseur saidThat's not news at all. I've had sex with lots of Neanderthals. I live in South Beach, for God's sake.

    Neanderthals in Speedos? What a frightening thought.

    Actually I've long thought modern humans and Neanderthals had interbred. Just based on the subjective observation that a "Neanderthal face" pops out every now and then, especially among those of northern European background.

    I've also long thought that Neanderthals survived in isolated areas for much longer than is currently believed, again mainly in Europe. Perhaps within the last 5 or 10,000 years.

    And that this is the source of folk tales about trolls and other scary humanoid creatures. Legends passed down for thousands of years, like the probably factual event regarding the Great Flood. That appears in the Old Testament and other ancient documents, that scientists now date as a real catastrophic event (due to the end of an ice age) at around 9000 BC.

    So if Neanderthals were still prowling about at the same time, it seems possible to me that we may have retained a dim memory of them in our folklore.
  • ATLANTIS7

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    Jul 25, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
    So that's where Joan Rivers came from?
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    Jul 25, 2011 2:17 PM GMT
    correct me if I'm wrong but aren't neanderthals a form of the human species.
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    Jul 25, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
    metta8 saidNeanderthals had sex with humans, says DNA

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43866502/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/neanderthals-had-sex-humans-says-dna/


    And still do if you've seen the walking evidence in these parts
  • metta

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    Oct 11, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
    The Neanderthal in My Family Tree
    New genetic evidence shows our ancestors interbred with now-extinct species.

    "Either our ancestors had just a few hookups, perhaps as the first waves of modern humans moved into Neanderthal territory. Or, the two groups were well on their way to becoming separate species and, thus, were biologically incompatible and able to produce few offspring that survived and were fertile."

    "a new character emerging from Siberia, of all places. Pääbo’s group published the nuclear genome of a new kind of archaic human from Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains of Russia. The researchers had extracted remarkably well-preserved DNA from a tiny sliver of finger bone from a girl who lived in the cave more than 50,000 years ago. The DNA showed that she was neither a Neanderthal nor a modern human (although bones of both species have been found in the same cave at different times). She belonged to a new lineage called the Denisovans."

    "Although only three fossils of Denisovans have been found so far (the finger bone and two molars in the same cave), the girl belonged to a group that left its mark on living people today in Southeast Asia. In follow-up studies, researchers identified people who had inherited about 3 percent of their DNA from the Denisovans, as well as 4 percent to 6 percent of their DNA from Neanderthals. These people are found in a patchwork quilt of populations on islands of Southeast Asia, including Melanesians in Papua New Guinea, aboriginals in Australia, and Negritos in the Philippines. Researchers are searching for new fossils of Denisovans in Asia. But for now, they’re in the curious position of having a genome in search of a substantive fossil record of this new kind of human."

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_evolution/2012/10/neanderthal_and_denisovan_genetics_human_ancestors_interbred_with_extinct.html
  • Medjai

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    Oct 11, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    miamimasseur saidThat's not news at all. I've had sex with lots of Neanderthals. I live in South Beach, for God's sake.

    Neanderthals in Speedos? What a frightening thought.

    Actually I've long thought modern humans and Neanderthals had interbred. Just based on the subjective observation that a "Neanderthal face" pops out every now and then, especially among those of northern European background.

    I've also long thought that Neanderthals survived in isolated areas for much longer than is currently believed, again mainly in Europe. Perhaps within the last 5 or 10,000 years.

    And that this is the source of folk tales about trolls and other scary humanoid creatures. Legends passed down for thousands of years, like the probably factual event regarding the Great Flood. That appears in the Old Testament and other ancient documents, that scientists now date as a real catastrophic event (due to the end of an ice age) at around 9000 BC.

    So if Neanderthals were still prowling about at the same time, it seems possible to me that we may have retained a dim memory of them in our folklore.


    The projected date in my textbooks is 12-15 kya. But about 2.5-5% of humans, primarily Europeans, will show Neanderthal genes in the mDNA. pretty cool stuff. Shows we were much more related than we thought.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Oct 11, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    How simian! icon_smile.gif