The Gay Scene - Continued

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    Jul 25, 2011 4:10 PM GMT
    So last week or two weeks ago another member pointed out in a forum about gay guys disliking "the scene". I think he mentioned about how "masculine" gay guys aren't into the scene or something like that. Now everyone has a different idea of what the scene is in their head, but to me it's the typical gay culture of partying, tight clothing, caty attitudes, etc. Every typical stereo type you can think of.

    My partner and I were walking around in west Hollywood yesterday from lunch with friends. We never really go to that area a lot not because of the "scene" but because we just prefer our area where it's more mixed around Hollywood where it's really having a new look with better restaurants, nite life, stores and is way closer.

    What we both did notice though was that there was this certain element to some gay men hanging around with this letcherous seedy aroma. Now of course weho isn't all like this, but it was interesting and it made me think of this post that a member posted on here. It made me think... Is that what he was talking about? Is this one of the reasons why we don't go out to weho? Because it's to much of a "scene".

    I guess we prefer more mixed boundaries where gay/straight mix. I think it losses that gay sexual meat market that you feel sometimes in the more gay areas. It's more relaxed and just people really enjoying a good time with friends. I know for sure that when I was single I always enjoyed the mixed clubs way better.

    Is this the all answer to some people are a product of their environment? That there is some conditioning to our surrounding just like childhood?
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    Jul 25, 2011 4:23 PM GMT
    Speaking as an old guy... icon_biggrin.gif

    I have always felt out of place in the "scene". It has always seemed very artificial to me, and having grown up on a ranch and worked all my life in professional sports, I simply feel no point of contact.

    And as an old guy, I'm invisible on the "scene" anyway.

    I've got lots of gay friends of all ages; we make out own scene, I guess.

    Nat
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    Jul 25, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    tazzari saidSpeaking as an old guy... icon_biggrin.gif

    I have always felt out of place in the "scene". It has always seemed very artificial to me, and having grown up on a ranch and worked all my life in professional sports, I simply feel no point of contact.

    And as an old guy, I'm invisible on the "scene" anyway.

    I've got lots of gay friends of all ages; we make out own scene, I guess.

    Nat


    This made me giggle and gave me great mental pictures! icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 25, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    Me and my typos! "our own scene"1icon_redface.gif
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    Jul 25, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    theantijock saidMy last best bud lived up the hill from Hollywood & Vine and we played in West Hollywood, enjoying that scene.

    Also I had a house in downtown gayville, Florida for many years though recently relocated away. I enjoyed it all until I got into my 50s. Now I live 20 minutes away from the scene so when I feel the need it is accessible but I'm enjoying spending more time where the population is more varied.


    That's where we live, our area is called the Hollywood Dell.
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    Jul 25, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    tazzari saidSpeaking as an old guy... icon_biggrin.gif

    I have always felt out of place in the "scene". It has always seemed very artificial to me, and having grown up on a ranch and worked all my life in professional sports, I simply feel no point of contact.

    And as an old guy, I'm invisible on the "scene" anyway.

    I've got lots of gay friends of all ages; we make out own scene, I guess.

    Nat

    Dear Nat: We are the same age, so just as fucking old. And yes, you are right, at least in my mind, about making your own scene. My partner & I have a personal "scene" that we think is fabulous.

    But I can also enter any scene and make something of it. You look like an outdoors guy, as I have been. (Actually you're the hottest-looking 62-year-old here, and you make me jealous as Hell)

    Do you not go out into the woods, and pick wild berries and other foods? But you don't eat the whole forrest, do you?

    I view the "scene" the same way. I select what I like, and ignore what I don't like. Any scene is what I make of it. Certainly there are scenes with too much for me to reject, and too little to enjoy.

    But is there one single scene? I haven't found it yet. So yeah, I do scenes, even at my (our) age. And I always, always have a good time. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 25, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    There are many gay guys that love being in the gay hive and being surrounded by everything gay. There's a reason why circuit parties contiinue to be popular. I can only tolerate it once in a while, and only to break the "mainstream lifestyle" monotony on occasion. I guess to each his own and whatever makes one happy.
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    Jul 25, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThere are many gay guys that love being in the gay hive and being surrounded by everything gay. There's a reason why circuit parties contiinue to be popular. I can only tolerate it once in a while, and only to break the "mainstream lifestyle" monotony on occasion. I guess to each his own and whatever makes one happy.


    Pretty much my take on the matter.
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    Jul 25, 2011 8:35 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, I think a lot of guys equate "the scene" with some stereotypical notion of "gayness," specifically with regard to effeminate vs masculine behavior. I see a lot of gay guys who dislike "the scene" also describe themselves as "masculine" or (god forbid) "straigt acting." Just because a gay guy doesn't flit around, speak with a giant overstated lisp or use the word "fabulous" three times per sentence, doesn't mean he should be insulted by being called (or calling himself) "straight acting!"

    The "scene" can mean anything. Hating it can also imply hating anything. I think we should try to not limit our own perspectives with this issue of sexuality. How straight acting that would be!
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    Jul 25, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    tazzari saidSpeaking as an old guy... icon_biggrin.gif

    I have always felt out of place in the "scene". It has always seemed very artificial to me, and having grown up on a ranch and worked all my life in professional sports, I simply feel no point of contact.

    And as an old guy, I'm invisible on the "scene" anyway.

    I've got lots of gay friends of all ages; we make out own scene, I guess.

    Nat

    Dear Nat: We are the same age, so just as fucking old. And yes, you are right, at least in my mind, about making your own scene. My partner & I have a personal "scene" that we think is fabulous.

    But I can also enter any scene and make something of it. You look like an outdoors guy, as I have been. (Actually you're the hottest-looking 62-year-old here, and you make me jealous as Hell)

    Do you not go out into the woods, and pick wild berries and other foods? But you don't eat the whole forrest, do you?

    I view the "scene" the same way. I select what I like, and ignore what I don't like. Any scene is what I make of it. Certainly there are scenes with too much for me to reject, and too little to enjoy.

    But is there one single scene? I haven't found it yet. So yeah, I do scenes, even at my (our) age. And I always, always have a good time. icon_biggrin.gif


    My scene is guys I've met through skiing, mutual friends, etc. Pretty nice group, I must say. Wish you lived close by - we'd co-opt some of your evenings! icon_biggrin.gif

    Yes, I've spent most of my life outdoors, and still do: right now I've just finished getting in the winter's wood; next is dam/bridge/river bank repair after the floods this spring. Thanks for the compliment - but all the work makes me feel like oldest 62 year-old on the block at the moment!

    I'm not much on wild foods, though I did bag something over 100 morels this spring.

    Nat