Walker’s Vindication: The controversial Wisconsin budget reform saves teachers’ jobs.

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    Jul 26, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
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    With “collective bargaining rights” limited to wages, Koczela was able to change the teachers’ benefits package to fill the budget gap. Requiring teachers to contribute 5.8 percent of their salary toward pensions saved $600,000. Changes to their health care plan​—​such as a $10 office visit co-pay (up from nothing)​—​saved $200,000. Upping the workload from five classes, a study hall, and two prep periods to six classes and two prep periods saved another $200,000. The budget was balanced.

    “Everything we changed didn’t touch the children,” Koczela said. Under a collective bargaining agreement, she continued, “We could never have negotiated that​—​never ever.” Koczela, a graduate of Smith College and Duke University Law School, is no Republican flack. She says she’s a “classic Wisconsin independent. I vote both parties. I voted for Senator [Russ] Feingold but I voted for [Republican state] Senator Alberta Darling too.”

    In Brown Deer and school districts across the state, Walker’s budget repair bill, known as Act 10, is working just as he promised. To make up for a $2.8 billion deficit without raising taxes, state aid to school districts (the largest budget line) was reduced by $830 million. Act 10, Walker said, would give districts “the tools” needed to make up for the lost money as fairly as possible.
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:21 PM GMT
    That's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?


    How is it dumb to recognize that the cuts impacted payroll versus actual teachers? This is just reversing the accounting trickery that was done during initial negotiations many years ago that provided platinum level benefits to teachers.
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    Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThat's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?


    How is it dumb to recognize that the cuts impacted payroll versus actual teachers? This is just reversing the accounting trickery that was done during initial negotiations many years ago that provided platinum level benefits to teachers.


    It's dumb to argue that saving a few teaching jobs "vindicates" Walker's pushing through an antidemocratic, unconstitutional, and morally bankrupt evisceration of collective bargaining rights that will harm all of Wisconsin's public workers.

    It actually puts the lie to the idea that this was ever about finances. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Christian73 saidThat's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?


    How is it dumb to recognize that the cuts impacted payroll versus actual teachers? This is just reversing the accounting trickery that was done during initial negotiations many years ago that provided platinum level benefits to teachers.


    It's dumb to argue that saving a few teaching jobs "vindicates" Walker's pushing through an antidemocratic, unconstitutional, and morally bankrupt evisceration of collective bargaining rights that will harm all of Wisconsin's public workers.

    It actually puts the lie to the idea that this was ever about finances. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Actually it underscores the point that it was about finances if they are able to save jobs while reducing debt obligations. You seem to be bending over backwards in an attempt to spin this.

    Any rational voter will be able to see these two points: debt and financial obligations reduced, minimal change in services - democratic, constitutional and morally right.
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    Jul 26, 2011 3:54 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidThat's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?


    How is it dumb to recognize that the cuts impacted payroll versus actual teachers? This is just reversing the accounting trickery that was done during initial negotiations many years ago that provided platinum level benefits to teachers.


    It's dumb to argue that saving a few teaching jobs "vindicates" Walker's pushing through an antidemocratic, unconstitutional, and morally bankrupt evisceration of collective bargaining rights that will harm all of Wisconsin's public workers.

    It actually puts the lie to the idea that this was ever about finances. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Actually it underscores the point that it was about finances if they are able to save jobs while reducing debt obligations. You seem to be bending over backwards in an attempt to spin this.

    Any rational voter will be able to see these two points: debt and financial obligations reduced, minimal change in services - democratic, constitutional and morally right.


    Incorrect, as the current recalls in WI prove, the citizens of that state want to keep Walker and his cronies about as much as they want VD.

    And, again, there's no proof that it saved jobs. Walker cutting education funding is what jeopardized jobs to begin with. Yet another manufactured "crisis" that benefits no one but the wealthiest Americans.
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    Jul 26, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidThat's the dumbest argument I've ever read. Walker cuts $830 million to districts but $800,000 (less than 1%) saved teachers' jobs?

    How many? 10? 15?


    How is it dumb to recognize that the cuts impacted payroll versus actual teachers? This is just reversing the accounting trickery that was done during initial negotiations many years ago that provided platinum level benefits to teachers.


    It's dumb to argue that saving a few teaching jobs "vindicates" Walker's pushing through an antidemocratic, unconstitutional, and morally bankrupt evisceration of collective bargaining rights that will harm all of Wisconsin's public workers.

    It actually puts the lie to the idea that this was ever about finances. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Actually it underscores the point that it was about finances if they are able to save jobs while reducing debt obligations. You seem to be bending over backwards in an attempt to spin this.

    Any rational voter will be able to see these two points: debt and financial obligations reduced, minimal change in services - democratic, constitutional and morally right.


    Incorrect, as the current recalls in WI prove, the citizens of that state want to keep Walker and his cronies about as much as they want VD.

    And, again, there's no proof that it saved jobs. Walker cutting education funding is what jeopardized jobs to begin with. Yet another manufactured "crisis" that benefits no one but the wealthiest Americans.


    Incorrect. As the current polls show, they don't even want the recalls. Again, there is proof that it saved jobs. The fact that debt levels and there is no more money for the largesse that has been previously spent on benefits is what jeopardized jobs to begin with. Manufactured crisis only applies if you believe that there is an endless money tree somewhere out there hiding in Geithner's backyard.
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    riddler78 saidIncorrect. As the current polls show, they don't even want the recalls. Again, there is proof that it saved jobs. The fact that debt levels and there is no more money for the largesse that has been previously spent on benefits is what jeopardized jobs to begin with. Manufactured crisis only applies if you believe that there is an endless money tree somewhere out there hiding in Geithner's backyard.


    icon_lol.gif The Dems won the first recall. 55% of Wisconsinites disapprove of Walker's job performance. If Obama's 48% disapproval rating is disastrous, how do you explain away Walker's?

    Re: Manufactured crisis:

    Walker cut taxes for highest earners and business to repay his donors.

    Said cuts created deficit in budget.

    Walker blamed unions for budget deficit his policies created.

    Union stripping bill scrapes through WI legislature in highly undemocratic, possibly illegal way.

    10 teachers jobs are saved and Walker declares victory?

    Wisconsin's version of The Shock Doctrineicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    Riddler...how hard is it for you to understand that American Liberties do not have a price?

    "Balancing the budget" means absolutely shit when you are also imposing on certain rights of the individual.

    But since you live in Wisconsin, Riddler...I'm sure you know exactly how they all feel about it.