dreams and spiritual growth

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    Jul 26, 2011 1:34 PM GMT
    I'm not really looking for answers, as I I feel this is something I understand but I thought I'd share this. Today I was woke up, somewhat saddened, by a dream. I was in my childhood friends house, their dog Cosmo was there, his mother was yelling things (nice things) to us from the other room, after walking around for a minute, we headed outside, it was nice out and my friend was acting the way he always acted, making jokes and messing around as we headed out into the dream version of the neighborhood I was so familiar with in my youth.

    I bring this up because this dream seems to be recognition of something. The short time I spent in this house had a large impact on who I am today. I kind of already knew this but am very aware of it now. I feel better for having this dream and I feel more aware of myself and how I came to be who I am. I'm in an emotional state now, which I don't care to be in but it says a lot. Your dreams can teach you about yourself sometimes. Anyone else have any dreams that effect you this way?
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    Jul 26, 2011 11:43 PM GMT
    I think about our lab Mr. Dowser all the time (hence my screen name) and I was devastated when he died. I was sad for a long long while and then I had a dream where he visited me and I got to tell him how much I loved and missed him. I still miss him, but I feel way better now. Dreams are cool.
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    Aug 07, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    BlackLabSD saidI think about our lab Mr. Dowser all the time (hence my screen name) and I was devastated when he died. I was sad for a long long while and then I had a dream where he visited me and I got to tell him how much I loved and missed him. I still miss him, but I feel way better now. Dreams are cool.


    That's awesome. The dream allowed you to express your feelings and move on. Thank you for sharing. icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 12, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
    Rosco, have you communicated with your friend recently?
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    Aug 12, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
    A year or so after my partner died (10 yrs ago now), I had a dream shortly before waking, wherein my partner came to me and told me in his warm, familiar voice, that he was alright and that it was okay for me to move on with my life. When I did wake up, I felt a bit sad because I still missed Chuck, but I also knew that moving on was the right thing to do.
    We had talked about it before he passed, and the dream was a confirmation. In spite of the sadness, I felt at peace with what had happened and with the choices I was making in my life. I still miss him, always will, but life is good.

    Dreams can be very important events, and I believe we do well to pay attention to them. It's about being in touch with something deeper within our selves that the outer concerns of everyday living that can so distract us from the important. Our bodies often tell us important bits of information, too, but to often we ignore those messages because we aren't attuned to this dimension of being.
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    vincent7 saidRosco, have you communicated with your friend recently?


    No, not at all. It was actually 2 friends, they were brothers. I hung out with them from age 11 to about 16. They're honestly kind of assholes, I was heavily influenced by them though. They were the kids that always caused trouble and swore in front of their parents (i would've gotten the shit slapped out of me if i had done that), you know, all the stuff I really wanted to do as a kid I got to do with them. I tried to get in contact with the older one through facebook and he didn't seem to care to talk to me, that was a year or 2 ago. Only one of them was in the dream, the younger one, which is weird because I wasn't around him as much and almost didn't really consider him a friend. I just simplified the story for convenience.

    The dream seemed more significant of my upbringing than of personal relationships.
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
    rosco87 saidAnyone else have any dreams that effect you this way?

    Very much so.
    And it's "affect"... icon_neutral.gif
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    I don't ascribe to the notion of dreams as portals to meta-truths or windows of communication to the great beyond, but dreams are important mental housekeeping for all the psychological junk we acquire during our waking state.
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:39 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidI don't ascribe to the notion of dreams as portals to meta-truths or windows of communication to the great beyond, but dreams are important mental housekeeping for all the psychological junk we acquire during our waking state.


    I once had a dream that a HUGE slice of fried bacon wanted to eat me icon_sad.gif
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    Dreams mean nothing. Your brain is just doing a document dump/backup/update/reinstall.
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    Aug 26, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    I think dreams have a way of kicking up nostalgia and longing for other times since they can recreate some memories in an immersive way. I think most dreaming is a very functional process our brain needs, but I've definitely had dreams lead to personal insights and make me aware of new things I needed to do.

    Shouldn't run to extremes on them in either direction. Don't take every single dream as an oracle, but also don't write them off as purely biological. If one gets to you, take time to reflect on it and figure out something new about yourself.
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    4) One time my astral body got pulled into room where two guys were having sex. I had no idea who these two guys were or where I had gone to. Then things got "interesting." icon_smile.gif A month later I happen to stumble upon two guys who were my neighbors that were the same guys I had during that astral/dream experience. A one time occurrence where my astral self was pulled into having an experience with two other people who happen to be in close proximity to me. I don't like three-ways but this was actually very nice, it's the best three-way I ever had. icon_smile.gif



    Umm, you need to watch 'Insidious'. Don't venture too far outside your body, it will be taken over by another soul :0
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    Aug 26, 2011 6:30 AM GMT
    Rosco,I often have the kind of dreams you describe,waking up with strong emotions about things/people/events I was probably sub-consciously musing on anyway.They then colour the rest of my day.Many of these dreams repeat themselves in subtle shifts as if I`m learning but slowly.
    I think the unconscious knows things the conscious doesn`t and gives us guidance that way,in stories and images and feelings.At the very least it refreshes us for the day ahead.
    We should take note of our dreams.
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    Aug 26, 2011 6:36 AM GMT
    Some dreams have caused me growth....in my pants.
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThough some report voluntary control of an erection from within a dream ...


    Wow, didn't know that was possible.icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    This I can SO relate to!
    Yesterday I had a weird/great/emotional/strange day (lots of reasons) then talked to a old friend. spent the evening on the balcony looking at the sky, relaxing. I dreamed a lot last night, but I distinctly recall having to explain to yet another person why I came back to the Bay Area after being gone for a year (I went back to New York for a year to take care of my Mom' while she was dieing) and I was reciting (yet again) what she died of. In the dream I was trying not to get choked up, so I had to say it all over again louder for them to hear. I woke up to find I was actually saying it out loud! It kinda shook me, then I noticed I'd woke up my boyfriend with my ramblings. He must think I'm nuts....
    Any ideas?
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
    Shortly after my grandfather died last march, I had a dream where I was a little kid again looking up to my grandparents. I can't remember anything else about that outside of what they used to wear back in the day. I don't really know why that comes to mind, though. I guess it's because since I spent a lot of my childhood up there and due to the stresses prior to that dream, I guess it was just trying to go back to a much simpler time- when I can be stupid me and it wouldn't bite me in the ass.

    Sometimes I feel like the dreams can predict the future, but I don't have proof of that yet. Like I experience frequent déjà vu a lot, or I feel like it at least. Also- I have had two dreams where I lived in Oregon, even though the farthest West I've ever been was Colorado. I'll admit that I was interested in moving there, though. However, the weird part was that those two dreams were pretty much confirmed as taking place in Oregon.
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    Aug 26, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    Bullwinklemoos saidShortly after my grandfather died last march, I had a dream where I was a little kid again looking up to my grandparents. I can't remember anything else about that outside of what they used to wear back in the day. I don't really know why that comes to mind, though. I guess it's because since I spent a lot of my childhood up there and due to the stresses prior to that dream, I guess it was just trying to go back to a much simpler time- when I can be stupid me and it wouldn't bite me in the ass.

    Sometimes I feel like the dreams can predict the future, but I don't have proof of that yet. Like I experience frequent déjà vu a lot, or I feel like it at least. Also- I have had two dreams where I lived in Oregon, even though the farthest West I've ever been was Colorado. I'll admit that I was interested in moving there, though. However, the weird part was that those two dreams were pretty much confirmed as taking place in Oregon.


    Thanks for sharing that.. Maybe you should think about seriously moving to Oregon? Or at least taking a long trip there?
    I should say that I absolutly believe in prophetic dreams, in general, as well as mans varieing ability to sense or glimps other times; maybe that's nutty to say, maybe not... Anyway, the strangest, and most powerfuldream I've had since she passed a few months ago was finding her sitting in a rocking chair on a porch in the rain. She was rocking my little brother (also passed away) and I was trying to get her to come inside because I was worried she catch phemonia or something. It was raining like hell and I was really concerned about her & the baby, but she was laughed at me, finally giving in she got up from her chair, saying "Alright, if it'll make you feel better but I'm all over that now," and followed me inside, telling somebody else to watch the baby; I hadn't realized before, but my old high school friend & first real guy crush
    Cory (car accident) was sitting in another chair wearing head phones, then he just smiled & nodded at us both. Then me & my mother were in the living room talking, I was telling her I was concerned, etc. She laughed, lit a cigarette, & told me to "get over it." The weird thing is she point for me to look at this thing on the wall; it looked just like one of those tropical post cards from Tahiti or something, and there was my nineteen year old newphew posing with a girl like it was a vacation photo: that's the real part that bugs me..
    Since then, I've actually asked him twice if he plans on transfering to a different college (he's in NY) or taking any trips (yes, I'm nuts) but thankfully he's a bit dull and is remaining inland... Okay, end strange rant.
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    Aug 26, 2011 4:51 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    2) an astral experience where I leave my body and communicate with some very curious and odd beings.


    At the moment you experience this state, do you hear an electrical, or popping sound?
    Is there any sort of tether from your physical to astral body?
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    Aug 26, 2011 5:02 PM GMT
    theantijock said

    Just like many have wet dreams in their nonlucid dreaming which can result in ejaculation, in a lucid dream, where consciousness awakens within the dream, some dreamers enjoy purposely playing out sexual experiences with their dream characters. Talk about safe sex!

    ...and among the most intense orgasms I've ever experienced

    It would take excellent control to be fully voluntary because you would have to both maintain the stability of the dream which actually requires that consciousness be suppressed somewhat, yet be conscious enough to be in control of your dream character.


    ..indeed, a difficult balancing act; to the point of realizing the potential messiness of the situation and just going for it anyway. Maybe this is why so many guys wear shorts to bed.icon_surprised.gif
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    Aug 26, 2011 10:33 PM GMT
    Here's another one (this was a long time ago):

    This one's more metaphorical, there was a personal revelation that I discovered much later from this but I'll just let you see if you can figure anything out about it.



    It started in a suburban neighborhood, summer time, sunny, and a huge crowd of people. The sounds and visuals were all very vivid and realistic. It was a festival. Everyone crowded in front of a garage to a random house to see this particular event I noticed flyers for. It was for this dog, everyone knew his name, he did tricks and was the representative for nike. I couldn't see what he was doing, I just saw a cartoon-like swirl moving around on the other side of the crowd of people talking and applauding. The show ended, everyone moved on, walking away leaving trash everywhere and the flyers all over the ground. Now left standing alone in front of the open garage was an old golden retriever with a nike logo stuck to his side, broken apart and probably as old as the dog himself. I walk up to see him and now my sister shows up. We pet him, he seems happy, and we laugh. Suddenly he's having trouble breathing, we both lean in close and kneel next to him. He's dying. I look at my sister and say "what's wrong?" she looks at me over the dog and says "God won't accept him now, he's sold his soul." I felt sad and we both hugged him as tight as possible as if to save him. I can feel his fur on the side of my face as I listen to his heart beat, his chest heaving as he tries to breathe. We keep holding him as the heartbeat and breathing get so loud that it's all I can hear.

    Then I woke up.



    My dreams are intense sometimes =D
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    Aug 27, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
    When you guys talk about "astral projection" do you mean what happens when your mind takes a trip through the other dimension, taking you to another location in that realm? Or do you mean simply observing events in another point of this specific space time you and I are communicating in right now?
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    Aug 27, 2011 3:20 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI
    Then all of the sudden I could feel my 'essence' leave my body through my seventh chakra which is located at the top of the head.>


    The hopi indians and asian tribal cultures consider this the portal through wich the spirit enters the body at birth... and that is why they say the skull is not closed on a newborn
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    Aug 27, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidDreams mean nothing. Your brain is just doing a document dump/backup/update/reinstall.


    I didn't realize your name was pronounced g-o-d.



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    Aug 27, 2011 5:00 AM GMT
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    GreenHopper saidWhen you guys talk about "astral projection" do you mean what happens when your mind takes a trip through the other dimension, taking you to another location in that realm? Or do you mean simply observing events in another point of this specific space time you and I are communicating in right now?


    It is nothing more than a language describing a type of experience accessed through dreaming.


    Hmm, that is not very specific at all... dreaming can be of a million type of expreiences.. from those of simple memory processing during sleep, helping to consolidate learning, and/or subconscious expressions of fears or wishes, all the way to dreaming of loved ones who have passed on with final goodbye messages to the living in the form of consolement or guidance, and/or remote viewing of events in another time, place, or even dimension if you're open to the existence of such things