Gov. Brown OKs financial aid for illegal aliens

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    Jul 26, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-brown-dream-act-20110726,0,3203216.story

    The state with no financial issues!
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    Jul 26, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said"Financial aid for illegal aliens."

    Totally insane.


    It is insanity, truly.
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    Jul 26, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    Amazing news!
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    Jul 26, 2011 3:06 PM GMT
    Fountains saidAmazing news!


    Yes, amazingly, unbelievably insane.
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    Jul 26, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
    Keyword: PRIVATELY funded financial aid.
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    Jul 26, 2011 5:13 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Mepark saidKeyword: PRIVATELY funded financial aid.


    Key point: The state is condoning and has now put it into law that illegal aliens - who by definition are known to be in the state illegally - can remain in the state, instead of being reported to the Federal government and deported.


    Like, why the hell do we even have borders anyway then?

    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:16 AM GMT
    Good for California.
    And to all you racial / bigoted assholes, "aliens" illegal and otherwise is what America is made of.

    They wouldn't be here if there were no jobs / opportunity offered to them. Incredibly shitty jobs at incredibly shitty wages none of you would sully your lily white hands at.
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:26 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?



    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?



    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?


    On the contrary, it is you that is—as ever—laughably stupid. It really depresses me that you have absolutely no understanding of American history.
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    From the link:

    "Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), author of the private financial aid measure, described it as an important but incremental step toward expanding opportunities for deserving students who were brought to the U.S. illegally through no choice of their own. "



    Well? Should children be punished for the wrongdoings of their parents?
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?

    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?

    On the contrary, it is you that is—as ever—laughably stupid. It really depresses me that you have absolutely no understanding of American history.

    You have really missed the mark by a mile with the Mayflower comment.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    From the link:

    "Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), author of the private financial aid measure, described it as an important but incremental step toward expanding opportunities for deserving students who were brought to the U.S. illegally through no choice of their own. "

    Well? Should children be punished for the wrongdoings of their parents?

    Not a question of punishing anyone. It is a question of who is entitled to entitlements and who is not, especially with the current economic situation in California.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    From the link:

    "Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), author of the private financial aid measure, described it as an important but incremental step toward expanding opportunities for deserving students who were brought to the U.S. illegally through no choice of their own. "

    Well? Should children be punished for the wrongdoings of their parents?

    Not a question of punishing anyone. It is a question of who is entitled to entitlements and who is not, especially with the current economic situation in California.


    The entitlement is privately funded. Are you suggesting that private funding should be limited by government?
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?

    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?

    On the contrary, it is you that is—as ever—laughably stupid. It really depresses me that you have absolutely no understanding of American history.

    You have really missed the mark by a mile with the Mayflower comment.


    And you, as ever, have a myopic and dimwitted view of American history yourself. May I suggest you avail yourself of the ample opportunities for education in California?
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    From the link:

    "Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), author of the private financial aid measure, described it as an important but incremental step toward expanding opportunities for deserving students who were brought to the U.S. illegally through no choice of their own. "

    Well? Should children be punished for the wrongdoings of their parents?

    Not a question of punishing anyone. It is a question of who is entitled to entitlements and who is not, especially with the current economic situation in California.


    The entitlement is privately funded. Are you suggesting that private funding should be limited by government?

    My comment was a general statement about punishment versus entitlements. I believe private funding administrators should have broad discretion over how they allocate funds, but there are limits. For example, if a fund intended to aid criminals who were hiding from the law, that would be illegal. This is a completely different situation, and I don't intend to demonize the students, but given they are not here legally, the question about supporting them is reasonable to discuss.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:47 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    socalfitness said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?

    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?

    On the contrary, it is you that is—as ever—laughably stupid. It really depresses me that you have absolutely no understanding of American history.

    You have really missed the mark by a mile with the Mayflower comment.


    And you, as ever, have a myopic and dimwitted view of American history yourself. May I suggest you avail yourself of the ample opportunities for education in California?

    A snarky, ignorant, and arrogant comment. Your academic credentials do not apply to politics, history, and, it seems, common sense. But I do give you high marks for spelling and grammar.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:52 PM GMT

    Socal, they're children who had no choice in the matter. The same problem exists here.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Whole families should just come across the other side of the world in boats and make themselves at home -- This is the precedent being set.


    I think that precedent was already set by the vast majority of American history. Ever heard of the Mayflower?



    Except you forgot that back then there were no safety nets for people. There was no dependency on the rest of the population if you couldn't support yourself or your children. Are you suggesting we go back to the days when it was every man for himself? Everyone tried out their luck in the land of opportunity and if they couldn't support themselves then tough shit. In that situation why would ANYONE care about open borders or immigration?

    Are you really that dumb?


    On the contrary, it is you that is—as ever—laughably stupid. It really depresses me that you have absolutely no understanding of American history.


    If I didn't know better I'd think you were purposely aiming for the lamest retort of the year award. Please humor all of us and do tell of these wonderful safety net programs that were waiting for the early settlers and immigrants venturing to America. OMG, I almost forgot, it was provided by the native Americans!
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    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    From the link:

    "Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), author of the private financial aid measure, described it as an important but incremental step toward expanding opportunities for deserving students who were brought to the U.S. illegally through no choice of their own. "

    Well? Should children be punished for the wrongdoings of their parents?

    Not a question of punishing anyone. It is a question of who is entitled to entitlements and who is not, especially with the current economic situation in California.


    The entitlement is privately funded. Are you suggesting that private funding should be limited by government?


    The state is going out of its way to condone something that is illegal, something that is AGAINST THE LAW. Does the part of your brain that can understand this not exist?
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    Jul 29, 2011 3:24 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    A snarky, ignorant, and arrogant comment. Your academic credentials do not apply to politics, history, and, it seems, common sense. But I do give you high marks for spelling and grammar.


    I really really resent your use of the Oxford comma.

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    socalfitness said
    A snarky, ignorant, and arrogant comment. Your academic credentials do not apply to politics, history, and, it seems, common sense. But I do give you high marks for spelling and grammar.


    I really really resent your use of the Oxford comma.


    I'm a fan of Will Strunk and E. B. White.
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    socalfitness said
    A snarky, ignorant, and arrogant comment. Your academic credentials do not apply to politics, history, and, it seems, common sense. But I do give you high marks for spelling and grammar.


    I really really resent your use of the Oxford comma.



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    Jul 29, 2011 6:47 PM GMT

    Here Mock, from the article header: New law covers private funding