Amount of Protein Intake Daily Confusion

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    Jul 26, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    so ive been seeing a dietician, and the amount of protein i eat daily is around 160 grams, and my dietician said thats more than enough

    now my fitness goal, is to become lean and cut, as opposed to bulking up,

    anyway i met this guy who is a pro body builder, and a personal trainer and he told me i should eat 200 grams of protein easily a day, to be LEAN, forget body building he said.

    who is right?
  • calibro

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    Jul 27, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    i wouldn't do more than one gram per pound of body weight you want to be at.
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    Jul 27, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    calibro saidi wouldn't do more than one gram per pound of body weight you want to be at.
    ok thnx!
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    Jul 27, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    Dietitians often undershoot for athletes. The general consensus is 2.0 grams per pound of body weight AT A MINIMUM for adding mass, and 1.5 for active people, or like you, people trying to become lean and and cut.

    It sounds like a lot, but I never made any substantial gains until I started taking in 300+ grams per day.

    I would recommend the same as your bodybuilder friend. At least 200, maybe 250. Then take in 250-300 carbs. That puts your intake between 1800 (low end) and 2200 (high end) calories per day not including fats, which should be around 40-60 grams. Start at the low end 200/250 and work up from there and see how your body responds. Here is a calculator you can play around with.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbprotein.htm


    Good luck!

    Tyler
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    Jul 27, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    Might want to take some fiber with that to....just in case you didn't know icon_smile.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
  • mybud

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    Jul 27, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
    The amount of protein ties in to your body and fitness goals...You're 182...the rule of thumb is 1 gram per pound minus your body fat the remain..But if your goal the to pack on more muscle mass and you're hittin the weights like a beast...you may require more than 1 gram per pound maybe 2 grams....
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    Jul 27, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    Drink a LOT of water...for your kidneys. In the words of my Dad in the middle of Wal-Mart, "Just make sure you're peeing clear"
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
    Trocks797 saidDietitians often undershoot for athletes. The general consensus is 2.0 grams per pound of body weight AT A MINIMUM for adding mass, and 1.5 for active people, or like you, people trying to become lean and and cut.


    This is wrong, there is no consensus of 2g!! per pound of body weight. Excessive protein intake coupled with too little fat intake can make one sick (1). Also too much protein is bad for kidneys and digestive system (2).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8137607
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:32 AM GMT
    every time i read something about protein or when guys talk about it on youtube they say 1 to 1.5 gram per lb of body weight.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    Quaccio said
    Trocks797 saidDietitians often undershoot for athletes. The general consensus is 2.0 grams per pound of body weight AT A MINIMUM for adding mass, and 1.5 for active people, or like you, people trying to become lean and and cut.


    This is wrong, there is no consensus of 2g!! per pound of body weight. Excessive protein intake coupled with too little fat intake can make one sick (1). Also too much protein is bad for kidneys and digestive system (2).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8137607



    These are the same people who stick to the rules of the BMI scale which is UTTERLY flawed.

    If you look around the net, try bodybuilding.com for the most info, you will see most say ~2 grams per pound for mass building. Don't shoot the messenger....although this messenger sees the most results at ~2 grams per pound. Yes, water is necessary. I drink over 1.5 gals per day.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Justmi saidevery time i read something about protein or when guys talk about it on youtube they say 1 to 1.5 gram per lb of body weight.


    I think that is too much.


    I hear this consistently from guys that are in real good shape and guys who know about fitness and nutrition.

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    Jul 27, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    Trocks797 said
    Quaccio said
    Trocks797 saidDietitians often undershoot for athletes. The general consensus is 2.0 grams per pound of body weight AT A MINIMUM for adding mass, and 1.5 for active people, or like you, people trying to become lean and and cut.


    This is wrong, there is no consensus of 2g!! per pound of body weight. Excessive protein intake coupled with too little fat intake can make one sick (1). Also too much protein is bad for kidneys and digestive system (2).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8137607



    These are the same people who stick to the rules of the BMI scale which is UTTERLY flawed.

    If you look around the net, try bodybuilding.com for the most info, you will see most say ~2 grams per pound for mass building. Don't shoot the messenger....although this messenger sees the most results at ~2 grams per pound. Yes, water is necessary. I drink over 1.5 gals per day.


    Below is the bodybuilding.com reference you cited in your previous post and it says 1-1.6 g/kg for bodybuilding, not 2.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbprotein.htm
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    i do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:46 AM GMT
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.


    is that why you wont come hang out with us? I'm beginning to think you hate me. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.


    is that why you wont come hang out with us? I'm beginning to think you hate me. icon_sad.gif


    i do.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:51 AM GMT
    Quaccio said
    Trocks797 said
    Quaccio said
    Trocks797 saidDietitians often undershoot for athletes. The general consensus is 2.0 grams per pound of body weight AT A MINIMUM for adding mass, and 1.5 for active people, or like you, people trying to become lean and and cut.


    This is wrong, there is no consensus of 2g!! per pound of body weight. Excessive protein intake coupled with too little fat intake can make one sick (1). Also too much protein is bad for kidneys and digestive system (2).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8137607



    These are the same people who stick to the rules of the BMI scale which is UTTERLY flawed.

    If you look around the net, try bodybuilding.com for the most info, you will see most say ~2 grams per pound for mass building. Don't shoot the messenger....although this messenger sees the most results at ~2 grams per pound. Yes, water is necessary. I drink over 1.5 gals per day.


    Below is the bodybuilding.com reference you cited in your previous post and it says 1-1.6 g/kg for bodybuilding, not 2.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbprotein.htm



    Good catch. Guess I was mixing with what I read in the forums. Personally, I didnt see results until I started taking in over 300 grams of protein per day. That is right under 2 grams per pound. On the forums, I have seen that as common. The good rule of thumb would be to find what just works for you.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:52 AM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.


    is that why you wont come hang out with us? I'm beginning to think you hate me. icon_sad.gif


    i do.


    I cared what you thought back when you were skinny. now.....not so much icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra said
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.


    is that why you wont come hang out with us? I'm beginning to think you hate me. icon_sad.gif


    i do.


    I cared what you thought back when you were skinny. now.....not so much icon_neutral.gif


    ew.

    its ok. i understand. i did this to myself. please, continue picking at my soul while i eat these donuts.
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:54 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Justmi said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Justmi saidevery time i read something about protein or when guys talk about it on youtube they say 1 to 1.5 gram per lb of body weight.


    I think that is too much.


    I hear this consistently from guys that are in real good shape and guys who know about fitness and nutrition.



    I'm in good shape too and I know about fitness and nutrition. I used to be a personal trainer. I know more than most people who dabble in nutrition but I know less than a person who is a trained certified nutritionist. Most personal trainers or bodybuilders are not certified nutritionists.


    I can see your in good shape, just saying what ive read and heard .
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    Jul 27, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra said
    dekiruman said
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.


    is that why you wont come hang out with us? I'm beginning to think you hate me. icon_sad.gif


    i do.


    I cared what you thought back when you were skinny. now.....not so much icon_neutral.gif


    ew.

    its ok. i understand. i did this to myself. please, continue picking at my soul while i eat these donuts.


    Gay guys once wanted to fuck your asshole, now straight guys want to fuck your titties. With a paper bag over your head of course.
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    Jul 27, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.
    *pinch* Fat, riiiiight.

    This is about what I average as well and I think was a big part of how much muscle mass I retained (perhaps built) during my weight loss. But I am not an expert, and I think for the average person, you should listen to MuchMoreThanMuscle, should be plenty of protein.

    Can't stress enough though. Don't get all your protein from powders, it's called a supplement for a reason.
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    Jul 27, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
    Spiritreaver said
    AvadaKedavra saidi do 1.5 protein per targeted body weight. i gained 20 pounds in 5 months but i am a fatass now =(. please dont poke me with a stick.
    *pinch* Fat, riiiiight.

    This is about what I average as well and I think was a big part of how much muscle mass I retained (perhaps built) during my weight loss. But I am not an expert, and I think for the average person, you should listen to MuchMoreThanMuscle, should be plenty of protein.

    Can't stress enough though. Don't get all your protein from powders, it's called a supplement for a reason.


    I had this problem for awhile. Supplements were so easy! But things picked up when I added chicken, tuna, eggs, cottage cheese, ect.
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    Jul 27, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    This may be my problem. I am only doing 50 grams a day.
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    Jul 27, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    calibro saidi wouldn't do more than one gram per pound of body weight you want to be at.


    This is what I do as well, about 185 grams per day.
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    Jul 27, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
    When you`re weight training to build new muscle,I`d say about 1.5g protein/kg. of body weight(1,8 if you`re a hard gainer).If you`re doing light weights and cardio,looking to be toned and lean,1.2-1.5g max.