Question for bikers

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    Jul 05, 2007 5:05 PM GMT
    I was riding last night in a very well-lit area and not once, not twice, but three times I swear to God people were trying to run me off the road with their cars! I'm pretty new to cycling/biking and granted, KC isn't the most pedestrian/biker-friendly city, but WTF? Is this common? Why do people in cars hate on people on bikes???
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    Jul 05, 2007 6:57 PM GMT
    Yes, it's common. However, drivers do not "hate on people on bikes" as much as not knowing how to deal with road cyclists, especially at dusk.

    May I recommend investing in a quality helmet like Grio Atmos?
  • DJMEW

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    Jul 06, 2007 9:47 AM GMT
    Yes car'ers hate bikers, at least in my city they do. Although I have noticed that every one that drives some kind of hybrid waves at me, gives me the peace sign, or something like that. SUV drivers seem to be the worst, if they have to pay those prices for gas everyone should have to.

    Luckily I know the former mayor, and several people with strong connections to the city commision, as well as having a reputation in the city as a political revolutionary so I have actually helped to push Kalamazoo Mi to increase the number of bike paths in the city.
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    Jul 06, 2007 11:32 AM GMT
    I ride a recumbent trike, and I have a flag for visibility. When it became clear that the little orange safety flag was not visible enough, I added an American flag on top of that. Oddly enough, with Old Glory flying on my trike, the honking and swearing stopped almost completely.
  • Lincsbear

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    Jul 07, 2007 3:09 AM GMT
    Jackal69,I`ve had bad attitude from car drivers when I`ve been out running.Where there`s no pavement,the attitude ranges from indifference ie you`re invisible,to outright annoyance when they`ve had to slow down by twenty miles an hour!Many make no allowance for your presence,giving you no clearance,etc.Funnily enough,the guys who treat you the best are the guys on motorbikes!
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    Jul 12, 2007 1:38 AM GMT
    i feel your pain.

    as a biker, both cycle & motor, its happened to me many times over the years.

    embarrassed but honest to say my temper has gotten the best of me a few times. i'm sure the adrenaline rush while visiting a near death experience pushed my temper up a bit.

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    Jul 14, 2007 8:45 PM GMT
    I stick to trails its much safer, of course, I have MTB. I rode today 20 mils, mostly street; I was a nervous the entire time. I enjoyed the ride much better when I went on the outside parameter of the base, it was cooler, calm and my only traffic was the occasional jogger. One was quite cute to boot.
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    Jul 15, 2007 12:04 AM GMT
    I've biked on 4 continents and couriered in London, and I find that it's the same everywhere. My opinion is that the most important thing is to be assertive, and not ride too close to the side. As a bike, you are entitled to the same amount of space as a small car. Ride three feet from the curb to allow room to swerve if someone gets aggro on you.

    Also, shoulder check constantly. Once the driver of an on-coming car sees me look at them, they tend to chill out a bit and not pass so close.

    You aren't blocking traffic, you are traffic.
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    Sep 08, 2007 5:18 AM GMT
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    After reading your statement, my first question would be .. . "Did you have a front and rear light on your bike?

    I don't believe that people in cars were born with a hatred toward cyclist. No do I believe that car owners/drivers are out to kill cyclist. Perhaps, they just didn't see you.

    As an 14yr. endurance road cyclist, I cycle defensively. I take extra precautions to insure my safety. I ride one cars door away from paralled parked cars. I wear bright clothing. I anticipate and try to avoid possible collisions - yielding to cars whenever necessary. At night, I use flashing lights (both front and rear lights). And, I always ride with a bike helmet.

    Wishing the best of all possible worlds,
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    Sep 08, 2007 5:29 AM GMT
    When I rode in Michigan, there was no mistake. Sometimes cars crossed the center line and opened a door to shove me off the road.

    However, in Oregon, it's the other way around. There's almost a lynch mob going after any motor vehicle driver involved in an accident with a bicyclist. And I almost never see any (other) bicyclist obeying basic traffic rules. The last few days, I've seen a dozen of them riding right down the center line (or weaving back and forth between lanes). In Portland, I've NEVER seen a bicyclist stop for a red light. It makes me want to get a jersey that says "look, I'm not like those other jerks, I'm actually riding safely."

    One of the laws that our new mindless democratic majority has just pushed through, without any thought, says that a car cannot pass a bicycle without leaving room for the bicyclist to fall, full length on the pavement. (WTF???????!!!!!!!)
    Which means that one of those fat women slaloming between the dashed lines can close a whole highway for the day.

    I have this strange foolish idea that riding safely, obeying traffic rules, and riding as close as possible to the edge of the road will inspire everyone else to do the same.

    I guess I'm just stupid.
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    Sep 08, 2007 6:33 AM GMT
    I've just recently started biking every day to work. While I love doing it and it makes me feel great to see lots of gas left in the tank on those rare occasions that I have to drive, there are some rude motorists out there. I haven't yet had anyone try to run me off the road, but I do rather tire of the idiots that honk at me because they don't realize that they just need to go around me instead of waiting for me to pull over onto a sidewalk.

    I've found so far that most motorists aren't assholes, but some of them I just want to yell at and tell them to read the damn bike laws and realize I have just as much right to the road as they do.
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    Sep 08, 2007 7:13 AM GMT
    Make sure you have a good helmet that is adjusted correctly. Be assertive (but not aggressive) in your riding. Remember that in a multi-lane road you have the right to sit in the center of your lane. Give hand signals appropriately and observe the traffic signals as if you were a car (Stop signs! Lights! Too many cyclists ignore these!)

    Oh yeah, if you're feeling anarchic, join Critical Mass. It rocks!
  • Alan95823

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    Oct 23, 2007 6:53 PM GMT
    Any bike recommendations for someone new to cycling and poor?

    I'd probably just be riding around town and on bike trails til I'm in better shape. Eventually I'd like to be biking the 20 miles (one way) to/from work, but I know I'll have to work up to that.
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    Oct 23, 2007 7:00 PM GMT
    Lots of choices out there.

    I choose Trek, not the cheapest bike but lasting quality icon_cool.gif

    If your going to go for a work commuter bike try the bike path or urban bikes. Mountain bikes will have more resistance on the tires, the urban bikes let you glide on smooth surfaces longer and easier.
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    Oct 23, 2007 7:15 PM GMT
    Having biked to work both in Boston during the Big Dig and in Washington, DC, the single best piece of advice I can give is ALWAYS know what's going on around you and just assume the worst and bike accordingly.

    I got a total rush from biking through city traffic at rush hour so I might just be a freak. But I always showed up to work pretty exhilarated whereas when I'd drive or take the train, I was just consumed with murderous rage.

    I think it's just an attitude you have to have and when a driver is giving you shit, just remember who's not enjoying themselves!

    Oh and yes, for city commuting, a mountain bike is vital.

  • Alan95823

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    Oct 23, 2007 7:25 PM GMT
    Because I'm mechanically inept, I was considering one of these:

    http://www.dynamicbicycles.com/buy/Bikes.php?prodid=49

    The whole gear/chain thing is a nightmare from my teen years... I was so relieved when someone stole it from school.
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    Oct 23, 2007 7:32 PM GMT
    Two people have died in PDX, so far this month, from refusing to yield to big trucks turning right across a bike lane. The bikes may have technically had the right-of-way but they were in the blind spots of the trucks. The laws of physics trump political correctness.

    Anyway, it's sunny and warm for a change, and for lunch break, I'm heading out on my bike!