MCCAIN: "TEA PARTY HOBBITS"....."BIZARRO"

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    Jul 28, 2011 12:59 PM GMT
    Thanks for pointing out the elusive obvious Sen. McCain!! icon_lol.gif

    "A bill to cut the U.S. deficit faced a nail-bitingly close vote in Congress Thursday after former Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain railed against "bizarro" alternative plans by "Tea Party hobbits."

    "What is really amazing about this is that some members are believing that we can pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution in this body with its present representation and that is foolish," the Republican from Arizona said in a speech to colleagues on Wednesday."

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43923236/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 28, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
    As usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.
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    Jul 28, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.


    We can be disappointed, but certainly not surprised.
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    Jul 28, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    I like Liz Winstead's take that they're not "hobbits but Orcs!"

    Or the British Finance Minister who said that America's economy is being held hostage by "right wing nutters." icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 28, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.


    The Tea Party Wacko's are holding America hostage and have turned a routine debt ceiling increase into a significant international crisis. If that doesn't tell the entire story, I'm not sure what does.

    Americans support a balanced approached outlined by the Dems. Tea Party needs to step aside. They are hurting America- not helping.
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    Jul 28, 2011 5:22 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidThe Tea Party Wacko's are holding America hostage and have turned a routine debt ceiling increase into a significant international crisis. If that doesn't tell the entire story, I'm not sure what does.

    Americans support a balanced approach outlined by the Dems. Tea Party needs to step aside. They are hurting America- not helping.

    The dilemma for Republican Party leadership is how to act rationally and still satisfy the nut-job Teabaggers in their Party. They used the Teabaggers to win the House and many States in the 2010 election, but now they have to live with them.

    If they offend the Teabaggers they fear they may lose in 2012. But polls are showing that Americans blame Republicans for this fiscal crisis. As they should, despite the propaganda that FOX News, the Republican media outlet, is spewing.

    A great deal of damage has already been done to the US, both domestically & internationally, by the Teabaggers. It's too bad the adults in the Republican Party haven't got the balls to take charge, and are letting the children run amuck.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 28, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.


    The Tea Party Wacko's are holding America hostage and have turned a routine debt ceiling increase into a significant international crisis. If that doesn't tell the entire story, I'm not sure what does.

    Americans support a balanced approached outlined by the Dems. Tea Party needs to step aside. They are hurting America- not helping.



    No one is holding ANYONE "hostage" -- that's liberal speak and a flair for the melodramatic...something liberals specialize in. The only thing that "America supports" is what many in The Tea Party were elected to do -- and that is hold these out-of-control career politician's feet to the fire who are spending this country into an abyss and, sorry, but they are not Just Republicans, they are from BOTH parties --- anyone who says differently is simply being disingenuous and not living in reality. America wants answers and solutions, NOT political posturing and yet that is what they are getting from Republicans, from the Democrats, and certainly the President. You calling this a "routine debt ceiling increase", Catfish, tells me that you know absolutely nothing about economics or the true crisis this country is heading towards if we do not STOP THE INSANITY and draw a line in the sand at some point. When do you think that point should be -- Yesterday? Tomorrow? Next week? Or should we just continue with what you're calling "routine debt ceiling increases" until the whole country is owned by everybody BUT Americans? The out of control spending cannot continue, and what this showdown -- painful as it is to watch -- has done has brought this issue to the front and center of ALL Americans consciousness and notice has been served that "Business As Usual" cannot and will not continue -- Period. This is a good thing, and I don't care how you want to spin it. This crisis will be resolved I suspect in the next few days. It will go down to the wire, but we will get past it. But make no mistake about it, The Tea Party has served a valuable purpose here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, liberals and others will blame them for it all. True thinking people living in The Real World know differently.
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    Jul 28, 2011 6:56 PM GMT
    You are obviously in denial about the republican party. Thats a good place 4u because u certainly cant handle reality. The tea party was not elected with a mandate from the american people. They represent a small minority. And to hold the americsn people hostage to force the tea party agenda down our throats is unfair, dangerous and unAmerican.
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    Jul 28, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    catfish5 saidThe Tea Party Wacko's are holding America hostage and have turned a routine debt ceiling increase into a significant international crisis. If that doesn't tell the entire story, I'm not sure what does.

    Americans support a balanced approach outlined by the Dems. Tea Party needs to step aside. They are hurting America- not helping.

    The dilemma for Republican Party leadership is how to act rationally and still satisfy the nut-job Teabaggers in their Party. They used the Teabaggers to win the House and many States in the 2010 election, but now they have to live with them.

    If they offend the Teabaggers they fear they may lose in 2012. But polls are showing that Americans blame Republicans for this fiscal crisis. As they should, despite the propaganda that FOX News, the Republican media outlet, is spewing.

    A great deal of damage has already been done to the US, both domestically & internationally, by the Teabaggers. It's too bad the adults in the Republican Party haven't got the balls to take charge, and are letting the children run amuck.







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    Jul 28, 2011 7:33 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.


    The Tea Party Wacko's are holding America hostage and have turned a routine debt ceiling increase into a significant international crisis. If that doesn't tell the entire story, I'm not sure what does.

    Americans support a balanced approached outlined by the Dems. Tea Party needs to step aside. They are hurting America- not helping.



    No one is holding ANYONE "hostage" -- that's liberal speak and a flair for the melodramatic...something liberals specialize in. The only thing that "America supports" is what many in The Tea Party were elected to do -- and that is hold these out-of-control career politician's feet to the fire who are spending this country into an abyss and, sorry, but they are not Just Republicans, they are from BOTH parties --- anyone who says differently is simply being disingenuous and not living in reality. America wants answers and solutions, NOT political posturing and yet that is what they are getting from Republicans, from the Democrats, and certainly the President. You calling this a "routine debt ceiling increase", Catfish, tells me that you know absolutely nothing about economics or the true crisis this country is heading towards if we do not STOP THE INSANITY and draw a line in the sand at some point. When do you think that point should be -- Yesterday? Tomorrow? Next week? Or should we just continue with what you're calling "routine debt ceiling increases" until the whole country is owned by everybody BUT Americans? The out of control spending cannot continue, and what this showdown -- painful as it is to watch -- has done has brought this issue to the front and center of ALL Americans consciousness and notice has been served that "Business As Usual" cannot and will not continue -- Period. This is a good thing, and I don't care how you want to spin it. This crisis will be resolved I suspect in the next few days. It will go down to the wire, but we will get past it. But make no mistake about it, The Tea Party has served a valuable purpose here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, liberals and others will blame them for it all. True thinking people living in The Real World know differently.





    "True thinking people living in the real world" know that the American people support a balanced package of spending cuts AND tax increases while the Tea Party extremists do not.
    Your completely bogus claim that the only thing that "America supports" is doing what the Tea Partiers want is flat-out BS.
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/27/jacobs.americans.verdict/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
    http://www.politicususa.com/en/polls-taxes-deficit

    BOTH parties support reducing the National Debt.
    ONLY the Tea Partiers are acting irrationally and are recklessly pursuing a my-way-or-the-highway approach that's damaging our economy.

    We need sane and rational representatives in Washington.
    It's become clear that the Repubs are too bitterly divided and extreme in their ideology to be able to govern responsibly.
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    Jul 28, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said.....The dilemma for Republican Party leadership is how to act rationally and still satisfy the nut-job Teabaggers in their Party. They used the Teabaggers to win the House and many States in the 2010 election, but now they have to live with them.



    yup! the GOP made "a deal with the devil" in order to win the house of reps...now they have to fullfull the evil bargain they made with these nut-job tool boxes.

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    Jul 28, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAs usual, Catfish, your posts only tell half the story. John McCain was reading from a Wall Street Journal piece, not speaking off the top of his head.


    But if what he was reading expresses his own point of view, or at least a point of view that he supports or finds reasonable, then we end up in the same place.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/28/angle-odonnell-slam-mccain-over-tea-party-hobbits-speech/

    Perhaps catfish5 wasn't telling the whole story. But closer to 75 percent than to 50.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jul 29, 2011 12:54 AM GMT
    Here I again had some respect "welling up" for McCain. Finally, a repub with some common sense... but it was dashed. I heard his interview on FOX with
    Hannity. I wanted to vomit.

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    Jul 29, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidHere I again had some respect "welling up" for McCain. Finally, a repub with some common sense... but it was dashed. I heard his interview on FOX with
    Hannity. I wanted to vomit.

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    Yup.

    And Hannity was absolutely unhinged tonight.
    He repeatedly called President Obama a "coward" and with a raised angry out of control voice.
    That's journalism?
    That's fit to put on the air on a "fair and balanced" network?

    Fox certainly has a right to put whatever they want on the air, but they don't have a right to put that kind of shit on the air and then criticize other news outlets for bias.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:07 AM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    Yup.

    And Hannity was absolutely unhinged tonight.
    He repeatedly called President Obama a "coward" and with a raised angry out of control voice.
    That's journalism?
    That's fit to put on the air on a "fair and balanced" network?

    Fox certainly has a right to put whatever they want on the air, but they don't have a right to put that kind of shit on the air and then criticize other news outlets for bias.


    And as Jon Stewart has repeatedly demonstrated with LOTS of clips, that's exactly the kind of thing they do over and over again. And he showed it again last night. Part one gives you the setup and hints of the insanity, while part two demonstrates you the heights that their insanity reaches.

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