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    Jul 29, 2011 5:19 AM GMT
    I'm just wondering if anybody knows anything about copyright laws for Canada.
    I found an image online and I don't know if it is copyrighted or not, but I'm guessing it is since it is from a book. I really want to use the illustration for a business card I'm making but I'm not sure if I can legally do it.

    If I change the contrast or colour of the image does that mean it's technically a different image, the way changing the pitch of a song means it's technically legal to post on youtube?
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:21 AM GMT
    You need to contact a lawyer who specializes in Canada's copyright laws.
    Or better yet, get the contact info of the image's copyright holder and work out a deal.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidYou need to contact a lawyer who specializes in Canada's copyright laws.
    Or better yet, get the contact info of the image's copyright holder and work out a deal.
    Too lazy and too poor.
    I want to just get an image online and put it on my damn business card. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:26 AM GMT
    You're not planning on making this image a logo for a business or anything, are you? Because that's just wrong...
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
    Please don't use an image offline --for your own benefit --without contacting the owner first (you'd be suprised at how willing most ppl are to share). I work as a designer and see people doing this all day long with no regard for the hardwork that went into project then totally bastardize it for this or that.

    Is the image you're looking at a photo? Or some sort of logo/illustration? Another concern with taking an image from the web for use in a print piece will be resolution. Chances are the printed graphic will look like crap if it's only 72 dpi. Probably not what you want to hand out to prospective clients.

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    Jul 29, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    Pyrotech saidYou're not planning on making this image a logo for a business or anything, are you? Because that's just wrong...
    lol no it's just so my business card isn't just text
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    cut_and_paste saidPlease don't use an image offline --for your own benefit --without contacting the owner first (you'd be suprised at how willing most ppl are to share). I work as a designer and see people doing this all day long with no regard for the hardwork that went into project then totally bastardize it for this or that.

    Is the image you're looking at a photo? Or some sort of logo/illustration? Another concern with taking an image from the web for use in a print piece will be resolution. Chances are the printed graphic will look like crap if it's only 72 dpi. Probably not what you want to hand out to prospective clients.
    I'm looking at a few different images, this is the one I found first:
    113A1CF2.jpg

    but i would love something like this:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/fitspecialcollections/3726767345/in/photostream/#/
    or this:
    http://www.fredriktjernstrom.com/
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:50 AM GMT
    i posted on facebook asking if anybody on my friendlist is good at fashion illustration or graphic design lol
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:57 AM GMT
    Gotcha. Well, I would definitely say don't use those as they look like they're probably well known. I take it you're in the fashion industry? If you put those on your card and the person you gave one to knows the image, you'd probably end up in the trash bin.

    I think you'd be better served to use the images as inspiration and make you're own. Get a fashion magazine that has some poses you like and trace them with a relatively dry brush, scan them into a computer and tweak them with photoshop (if you have access). You'll get a similar effect

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    Jul 29, 2011 6:04 AM GMT
    cut_and_paste saidGotcha. Well, I would definitely say don't use those as they look like they're probably well known. I take it you're in the fashion industry? If you put those on your card and the person you gave one to knows the image, you'd probably end up in the trash bin.

    I think you'd be better served to use the images as inspiration and make you're own. Get a fashion magazine that has some poses you like and trace them with a relatively dry brush, scan them into a computer and tweak them with photoshop (if you have access). You'll get a similar effect

    i know lol that's why i'm trying to find a stock image or a friend to do it for me

    that fashion mag thing is a rly good idea, i was actually thinking of finding a photo to turn into an illustration, but i'm not good at graphic design or illustration and i have no scanner lol
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    Jul 29, 2011 8:20 AM GMT
    I'm not an expert or a lawyer, but:

    If you take the image, change it slightly and then reproduce it, that - in my opinion - would breach copyright as you've taken a substantial part of the artwork. Using on business cards would be unlikely to fall under Canada's fair use provisions and so you wouldn't have a defence.

    As I said, though, I'm not a lawyer nor an expert.
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:32 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    paulflexes saidYou need to contact a lawyer who specializes in Canada's copyright laws.
    Or better yet, get the contact info of the image's copyright holder and work out a deal.
    Too lazy and too poor.
    I want to just get an image online and put it on my damn business card. icon_sad.gif
    Being lazy will get you sued. Then you'll be even poorer. If you can't afford to do it right, wait till you can.

    And whatever you do, don't remove any copyright info that may be on the picture.
    http://www.ipblog.ca/?p=535

    PS. From what limited results I can get from google, it seems Canada has DMCA law now, just like the US.
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:39 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidPS. From what limited results I can get from google, it seems Canada has DMCA law now, just like the US.
    Lame.

    My friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.
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    Jul 29, 2011 11:18 AM GMT
    113A1CF2.jpg




    This ink fashion sketch was done by Emily Wong. If you were to use this on a business card without asking her or giving her any credit she could sue you for it if she found out. Maybe if you wrote her an email asking her if you could use it (IF you give her some credit) She probably wouldn't mind,Who knows...


    www.emilywong.net
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    Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    paulflexes saidPS. From what limited results I can get from google, it seems Canada has DMCA law now, just like the US.
    Lame.

    My friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.
    You need friends who know law - not illustration.
    Have fun in court. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:10 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Anduru saidMy friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.
    You need friends who know law - not illustration.
    Have fun in court. icon_biggrin.gif
    ....he's going to get a friend to draw something for me. How is that illegal?
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    paulflexes said
    Anduru saidMy friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.
    You need friends who know law - not illustration.
    Have fun in court. icon_biggrin.gif
    ....he's going to get a friend to draw something for me. How is that illegal?
    Thanks for making that so clear earlier...
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    Jul 29, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Anduru said
    paulflexes said
    Anduru saidMy friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.
    You need friends who know law - not illustration.
    Have fun in court. icon_biggrin.gif
    ....he's going to get a friend to draw something for me. How is that illegal?
    Thanks for making that so clear earlier...

    Post 1:
    Anduru saidi posted on facebook asking if anybody on my friendlist is good at fashion illustration or graphic design lol

    Post 2:
    Anduru saidi know lol that's why i'm trying to find a stock image or a friend to do it for me

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    Anduru saidMy friend said he'll ask around, he apparently knows people who do illustration.


    A+ for reading comprehension.
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
    Anduru: I know you said you wanted an image on your card so it wasn't just text... are you planning to have the image on the front and your contact info on the back?

    There's nothing wrong with having a card that uses only good typography and color if you can't get a good illustration. It may even work better for you
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    Jul 29, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
    Most countries signed an international copyright convention, so at least broadly speaking, Canadian law should be like US. Best to get permission