"Marriage is a human right and not Heterosexual Privilege!"

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    Jul 29, 2011 9:07 AM GMT
    Personally, I have no faith in the institution, marriage. What's the point getting married if one can't stay faithful to his partner?

    Or we should have a brand new concept of marriage in 21st century.
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    Jul 29, 2011 9:49 AM GMT
    Polygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:04 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


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    Jul 29, 2011 10:10 AM GMT
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


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    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:10 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


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    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.


    +1

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    Jul 29, 2011 10:19 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


    hmmicon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.


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    Jul 29, 2011 1:23 PM GMT
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes said
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


    hmmicon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.


    Haha icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    lol

  • tuffguyndc

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    Jul 29, 2011 2:04 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.
    polygamy is a practice that is used in a lot of cultures. however, i know it does not work for me. i do not like sharing. i am selfish that way
  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 29, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
    dinoalexit saidPersonally, I have no faith in the institution, marriage. What's the point getting married if one can't stay faithful to his partner?
    Or we should have a brand new concept of marriage in 21st century.


    People have different reasons and different ways of getting married. Your perception of marriage is exclusive only to yourself, hence the idea that same-sex marriages should be allowed just the same.
  • BardBear

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    Jul 29, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    Been with my partner for, what 12 years and been faithful, so, I'm not sure with what model you're operating with. If marriage doesn't work for you? Don't have one. Should cover all your needs.

    Peace,
    Bardy
  • tazzari

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    Jul 29, 2011 3:25 PM GMT
    dinoalexit saidPersonally, I have no faith in the institution, marriage. What's the point getting married if one can't stay faithful to his partner?

    Or we should have a brand new concept of marriage in 21st century.


    I never thought or marriage as some sort of glue that would hold people together, but rather as a) a public declaration of love and commitment, which invites friends to recognize and support the relationship, and b) a civil contract that brings with it quite a few rights.

    We were going to get married in a ceremony that would invite all our friends to share in our joy and commitment, and we were going to make it a quasi-religious ceremony, regardless of civil laws. On the other hand, some of those civil rights would have been very useful when my partner died; in stead of taking charge, I had to keep asking his mother to sign this and that, because in the yes of the law, I had no rights in the matter at all. You can build a portfolio of legal documents, but they amount of a handful of dust if someone decides to make things difficult for you.
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    Jul 29, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    tuffguyndc said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.
    polygamy is a practice that is used in a lot of cultures. however, i know it does not work for me. i do not like sharing. i am selfish that way
    But I thought sharing was caring.
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    Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


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    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.


    Except for the part where you are wrangling with your partner's other wives/husbands for his attention...... How do we forget that part?
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    Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    To me marriage is just a legal fix. Besides, I prefer to think there's more to life than only trying to find your other half because it may or may not happen.
  • kcbronc

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    Jul 29, 2011 4:10 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    dinoalexit saidPersonally, I have no faith in the institution, marriage. What's the point getting married if one can't stay faithful to his partner?

    Or we should have a brand new concept of marriage in 21st century.

    I never thought or marriage as some sort of glue that would hold people together, but rather as a) a public declaration of love and commitment, which invites friends to recognize and support the relationship, and b) a civil contract that brings with it quite a few rights.
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    That's pretty much my view as well. Whether it's called gay marriage, life partners or long term relationship I wish it would get the same respect heterosexual couples get.
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
    ZbmwM5 said
    paulflexes said
    dinoalexit said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


    hmmicon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
    It would definitely take care of the cheating problem.
    If you've got a few spouses, you won't have time for extramarital sex.


    Except for the part where you are wrangling with your partner's other wives/husbands for his attention...... How do we forget that part?
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  • kcbronc

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    Jul 29, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


    Hmm... My understanding of polygamy in history is that the man was able to select more wives, but the wives were not able to select more husbands. Only the man was having sex with his multiple wives, but the wives only had sex with their one husband. Not sure that would turn out very well in the gay world. I guess we would all be related eventually. LOL
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    Very well said! I agree and empathize with your points. Peace!!
    tazzari said
    dinoalexit saidPersonally, I have no faith in the institution, marriage. What's the point getting married if one can't stay faithful to his partner?

    Or we should have a brand new concept of marriage in 21st century.


    I never thought or marriage as some sort of glue that would hold people together, but rather as a) a public declaration of love and commitment, which invites friends to recognize and support the relationship, and b) a civil contract that brings with it quite a few rights.

    We were going to get married in a ceremony that would invite all our friends to share in our joy and commitment, and we were going to make it a quasi-religious ceremony, regardless of civil laws. On the other hand, some of those civil rights would have been very useful when my partner died; in stead of taking charge, I had to keep asking his mother to sign this and that, because in the yes of the law, I had no rights in the matter at all. You can build a portfolio of legal documents, but they amount of a handful of dust if someone decides to make things difficult for you.
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    Men were and are more freer than women. I don't think gay men will stick to one partner for life icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    kcbronc said
    paulflexes saidPolygamy is actually more of a 1st century concept, and needs to be brought back.


    Hmm... My understanding of polygamy in history is that the man was able to select more wives, but the wives were not able to select more husbands. Only the man was having sex with his multiple wives, but the wives only had sex with their one husband. Not sure that would turn out very well in the gay world. I guess we would all be related eventually. LOL
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    What if you have found one soul mate; what's harm in giving and asking for a commitment?


    pocketnico saidTo me marriage is just a legal fix. Besides, I prefer to think there's more to life than only trying to find your other half because it may or may not happen.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    dinoalexit saidWhat if you have found one soul mate; what's harm in giving and asking for a commitment?


    pocketnico saidTo me marriage is just a legal fix. Besides, I prefer to think there's more to life than only trying to find your other half because it may or may not happen.


    I personally don't believe in soul mates (as unromantic as that sounds), but if I find someone to settle down with for a while or for the rest of my life, then so be it! I'm only 25 and have no idea at this point. I'm just saying I don't want my life and my happiness to revolve around finding someone.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    If a hetro partnership can get legal protections and financial benefits then so should a homo couple.

    End of.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    Well, I agree to the every bit of what you said icon_razz.gif
    I'm just concerned about the majority of us....We don't open the door if someone knocks and waste time judging people.
    pocketnico said
    dinoalexit saidWhat if you have found one soul mate; what's harm in giving and asking for a commitment?


    pocketnico saidTo me marriage is just a legal fix. Besides, I prefer to think there's more to life than only trying to find your other half because it may or may not happen.


    I personally don't believe in soul mates (as unromantic as that sounds), but if I find someone to settle down with for a while or for the rest of my life, then so be it! I'm only 25 and have no idea at this point. I'm just saying I don't want my life and my happiness to revolve around finding someone.
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    You have raised a valid point icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    Lostboy saidIf a hetro partnership can get legal protections and financial benefits then so should a homo couple.

    End of.
  • wild_sky360

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    Jul 29, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    Thread title:
    "Marriage is a human right and not Heterosexual Privilege!"

    I'll stick my neck out and say this is how most of us feel. But, point in fact, is just the opposite. It's definitely a civil rights issue though.

    If the privileges aren't granted equally, then they should be eliminated. That would leave everyone free to create whatever associations they wish, as we can do now; but without the state conferring rights on a special class.

    Major institutions are slow to change. And this one doesn't require a revolution. Let the straight world keep their religious ceremonies, along with whatever baggage they associate with marriage. But, they should no longer expect special rights for their particular beliefs.

    Society at large would benefit if everyone had these rights and protections in their domestic arrangements, but the financial benefits, in all fairness to those who choose to be single, should probably be outright eliminated. That may even be a logical step in the direction of equality.