Only Yoga?

  • Lo3iondo

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    Jul 31, 2011 8:14 PM GMT
    I'm a fairly new yoga/fitness instructor, who enjoys running and has been less and less attracted to the gym. When I do go, I lift lightly and keep the alignment principles in mind. I'm finding it boring.. and wish I could adjust the weight for some guys who are killing themselves and sacrificing safety in order to pump it up.

    I see a future of only yoga and maybe running.. does anybody else been weened off of the gym? Are you satisfied with your chest and biceps? I'm still working on inversions and arm balances. Looking forward to the strengthening of my mind, too..
  • DrewT

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    Aug 01, 2011 12:55 AM GMT
    Right now, no. I haven't been weaned yet. I enjoy lifting weights. It is about correct lifting techniques at the max weight you can do and pushing yourself. I don't like running that much, but I do love yoga. You can train with just yoga and build up your body. It's a similar principle, but with time in poses vs weight.
  • starboard5

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    Aug 01, 2011 2:13 AM GMT
    I've found that the awareness fostered by yoga practice is something I can bring to weight lifting, or to just about any situation if I remember to be mindful. It can actually make weight lifting safer as you are much more connected to what your body is telling you.

    Yoga is isometric whereas weight lifting is isotonic, so they work muscles in different ways. I remember reading an article in Yoga Journal where the author said, from a purely physical stand point, asana practice can't do it all. But of course, yoga is more than exercise.

    I wouldn't give up on the gym if I were you. There are different ways to make it more interesting. Changing your workout every six weeks or so is one way.
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    Aug 01, 2011 1:40 PM GMT
    you can, sure, and depending on your natural body type you may maintain some muscle. But the number of people who just do yoga and look as well put together as those who lift is very very small.

    I mostly train pilates but lift 2 times a week as otherwise my upper body shrinks and I lose weight.
  • Lo3iondo

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    Aug 01, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
    I suppose I am one of those few who naturally maintains muscle..

    Does this dissipate with age? :-) I'll continue the gym a few times a week, but my focus should probably be heavy weights since yoga is more of a calisthetic.

    I probably won't do anything. I think routines are so hard to stick to..
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    Aug 01, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    I've done nothing but yoga for years now. As I'm sure you're aware, yoga effectively tones muscles but doesn't largely build them... If you want to be big and buff, you'll need more than just yoga.

    Be aware that arm balances, inversions, and backbends predominantly work the triceps and very rarely challenge the biceps.
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    Aug 02, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    BTW: if you're doing yoga just for exercise, you aren't doing yoga (and you all can argue that until the cows come up if you like, won't change a thing).
  • Lo3iondo

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    Aug 02, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    i beat myself up all the time for my desire to enhance my body.. thanks for the reminder.

    especially since what initially brought me to yoga was to stop the thoughts racing through my head.. once i had a better control over my mind i was finally able to change the negativity

    then i came out.. and have since been listening to the feelings i have rather than the thoughts. its VERY HARD to do in a egoistic society (not to mention gay community--hence, this forum and my resulting superficiality)

    i know that i am young, and (yoga sutra 1.17) a full understanding of myself will take years of practice..

    i think i'm just beating myself up because its Leo season.. my birthday is just around the corner..

    so.. urdhva/handstand pushups for biceps? icon_smile.gif i'll ask John Friend in october

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    Aug 10, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    SFYogi saidBTW: if you're doing yoga just for exercise, you aren't doing yoga (and you all can argue that until the cows come up if you like, won't change a thing).


    Quoted for truth.

    Back to the original post... I can't give you your answer, but I can tell you what works for me.

    I've been practicing for 11 years, and teaching for 7. In that time, while my yoga practice has remained constant, the lifting has come and gone many times. It's always been prompted by my feeling that I need better arms, a bigger chest, or whatever.

    The most recent bout with lifting lasted about 2 months, until I got tired of it impacting my yoga practice. The mindset I settled on is this: I'm in a place where my mind and body feel good, and my body does what I need it to, so having a bigger chest or better arms doesn't really accomplish anything. My asana practice is important to me, and helps me maintain all the other aspects of yoga, so I'm not willing to sacrifice it.

    On a side note (and I'd be curious if other yoga teachers agree with me), despite being really impressive & flashy asanas, arm balances & inversions are all about subtlety.
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    Aug 10, 2011 11:14 PM GMT
    You donĀ“t need strength for most arm balances... you are right.

    I think of a friend of mine (who practices the astanga 3rd series) who had the most amazing body... he only ever did yoga, but his genes just made him all swole. I hate him icon_smile.gif

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    Aug 11, 2011 1:58 PM GMT
    Just recently was chatting with a really cool sub for one of my yoga classes, and mentioned to him that I still want pecs and arms like the guys in my gym.

    He reminded me that those guys wouldn't be able to half the things I can because of yoga. Great perspective, but still would be nice to fill out a t-shirt.;)
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    Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
    I tried just Vinyasa yoga for a year and began to have problems. I really believed it was all I needed to do since the practice pushed me to my physical limit. I started yoga to get out of my head as well and will continue with it but at my age I discovered that I also need the weight workout as well.

    Research bone flexure. Our bones manufacture all kinds of stuff necessary for life. In zero gravity this stops because the bones are not flexed. Weightlifting causes bone flexure.
  • fitdude62

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    Aug 11, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
    I have been practicing Yoga for almost 20 years and teaching for 5. Like many others here my lifting comes and goes.

    There is no "one" answer. For true health and fitness we need a well rounded program.

    For me Yoga will always be the basis of my workouts because it balances so many parts of my life. Pepper that with a variety of lifting, Kettle Bells and cardio and I am a happy man....icon_smile.gif

    Peace
  • Tombo

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    Feb 02, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    fitdude62 saidI have been practicing Yoga for almost 20 years and teaching for 5. Like many others here my lifting comes and goes.

    There is no "one" answer. For true health and fitness we need a well rounded program.

    For me Yoga will always be the basis of my workouts because it balances so many parts of my life. Pepper that with a variety of lifting, Kettle Bells and cardio and I am a happy man....icon_smile.gif

    Peace


    That's a nice outlook to have and I largely agree with you, there arte so many great types of exercise out there!
  • Timbales

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    Feb 02, 2013 11:45 PM GMT
    dumb question - can you combine weights and yoga?
  • DanOmatic

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    Feb 03, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    I love yoga, but for me it's just one component of many in my routine.

    I find that doing yoga at least once a week helps me be a better runner, and gives me a sense of body awareness and symmetry that I've been able to incorporate into swimming and lifting.

    I used to think it was important to push around a lot of weight in the gym. Now I focus on form and breathing, which was a take-away from practicing yoga.

    There is no single approach to all-round fitness. For me, yoga is for flexibility and balance, swimming/running/biking for cardio, and weights for strength. We need all those components: flexibility, balance, cardiovascular strength, and muscle strength--and all the more as we age.
  • Kriss

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    Feb 04, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
    I don't really see yoga as exercise, more of basic stretching, increasing flexibility, and most of all more than anything else it's just a way to meditate and get my mindset in a good place.

    Then again I'm a complete beginner some of the guys on here are actually certified teachers with years of experience haha, so they probably know more.
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    Feb 04, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    I would be against running if I were practising yoga on a daily basis, but weight training would be ok, but not to fatigue, and also on a daily basis, and focus on form and breath, so that I would always be fresh for yoga the next day.

    Does that make sense?

    We are supposed to do the heavier exercise in the morning, so your daily routine might depend upon how heavy your yoga routine would be compared to your weight routine.

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    Feb 04, 2013 5:49 PM GMT
    starboard5 saidI've found that the awareness fostered by yoga practice is something I can bring to weight lifting, or to just about any situation if I remember to be mindful. It can actually make weight lifting safer as you are much more connected to what your body is telling you.

    Yoga is isometric whereas weight lifting is isotonic, so they work muscles in different ways. I remember reading an article in Yoga Journal where the author said, from a purely physical stand point, asana practice can't do it all. But of course, yoga is more than exercise.

    I wouldn't give up on the gym if I were you. There are different ways to make it more interesting. Changing your workout every six weeks or so is one way.


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    I absolutely agree with this. I've done Yoga and lifted, plus cardio and swimming laps for many years (since I was a teen). This with a healthy diet and attitude can keep you in top shape for the rest of your life.
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    Feb 06, 2013 12:01 PM GMT
    After 2 years with a personal trainer and 20 lbs of muscle gain I could not stand lifting weights again. Right after a knee injury I started practicing yoga. Two years after I was not only keeping my body weight but also able to run up to a half marathon with no pain. I think yoga worked for me and I haven't been to the gym since. I like the way my body looks but if you want more mass then you may still need to lift weights. Have fun teaching and practicing!
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    Feb 07, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
    Only swimming makes as much sense to me as only yoga. (Assuming you have pool access.)
  • helloandgoodb...

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    Jun 20, 2013 7:17 PM GMT
    aljebedi saidAfter 2 years with a personal trainer and 20 lbs of muscle gain I could not stand lifting weights again. Right after a knee injury I started practicing yoga. Two years after I was not only keeping my body weight but also able to run up to a half marathon with no pain. I think yoga worked for me and I haven't been to the gym since. I like the way my body looks but if you want more mass then you may still need to lift weights. Have fun teaching and practicing!


    well said.

    i've done it too. For 5 years all I have done is yoga and a little cardio. maintained the weight and muscle and increased flexibility. Yoga does it all. but you need the right blend of the right classes
  • flyingkites

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    Jun 20, 2013 8:32 PM GMT
    I stopped lifting in last june as my shoulders were not happy with the practice anymore and I was really bored...

    I found yoga to be an awesome replacement. I have been doing it in place of the gym for a year now. There are different types of yoga, so yoga may or may not be a good replacement for lifting for you depending on the style you chose and your body type. - I easily build muscle and fat which is party why yoga works for me... Though I firmly believe diet is the most important thing to attain the physique you want regardless of how you exercise.

    I've ended up doing a Vinyasa style yoga (there are many different yoga styles) Though I will concede that I have definitely lost a bit of my weightlifting mass, I've made up for it in power and flexibility. At the studio I go to, we do a lot of arm balances and inversions. For me these moves help maintain more of that weight-lifting physique that I want to keep.

    As my workouts have evolved, I am back in the phase where I try and attain a workout solely by means of using gravity and my body weight. Personally I am happy with the results My body pic in my profile is recent.
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    Jun 20, 2013 9:15 PM GMT
    I read in a book on the anatomy of aging (by this guy drweil.com) that strength training is the only way to maintain the bone density, tendon strength and muscle mass that one had prior to age 30. No other form of exercise (yoga, soccer, running, football, swimming, etc.) will do this. Though other forms of exercise will benefit the body in various ways, only strength training will benefit it in this way.

    I personally have known 3 older folks, 2 male and one female, who had their tendons detach from one of their bicep muscles. Maybe that's why we have two biceps in each arm, to serve as backup. I also know people who went to an early grave from weak bones. Anyhow I decided that I would keep my tendons and bones strong so that nothing like that happens to me.
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    Jun 20, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    Weening off weights?

    Pussy.